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  1. Here is the complete schedule as it stands right now.


    Tuesday, July 4th

    Swap Meet Setup Noon-5pm (indoor and outdoor) Sheraton hotel

    Wednesday, July 5th

    Registration Open 8-5pm Sheraton Hotel Wisconsin Room 5

    Swap Meet 8am-5pm (outdoor) Sheraton hotel parking lot

    Swap Meet 8am-5pm (indoor) Sheraton hotel Wisconsin Rooms 1-4, 7

    Photo lane open 

    Hospitality Open 9-5 Milwaukee Ballroom 2

    EAA-The Spirit of Aviation Museum Tour 8:30 - 3:00pm 

    Harley Davidson Museum Tour and Miller Brewery Tour 8:30 - 4:00pm 

    4:00 -10:00pm Car Cruise to Pewaukee, WI 

    5-6pm National Meet Committee Meeting Milwaukee ballroom 1

    Thursday, July 6th 

    Registration Open 8-5pm Sheraton Hotel Wisconsin Room 5

    Swap Meet 8am-5pm (outdoor) Sheraton hotel parking lot

    Swap Meet 8am-5pm (indoor) Sheraton hotel Wisconsin Rooms 1-4, 7

    Photo lane open 

    Hospitality Open 9-5 Milwaukee Ballroom 2

    EAA-The Spirit of Aviation Museum Tour 8:30 - 3:00pm 

    Harley Davidson Museum Tour and Miller Brewery Tour 8:30 - 4:00pm 

    5:00pm -??? Reatta Rendezvous (tentative-confirm w/Jim Finn and need departing)

    3-4:30 pm PreWar Division Meeting Milwaukee ballroom 1

    4:30-6pm 65 Gran Sport Division Moorland 4

    7-9 pm General Membership Meeting Milwaukee ballroom 1

    Friday, July 7th

    Registration Open 8-5pm Sheraton Hotel Wisconsin Room 5

     Swap Meet 8am-5pm (outdoor) Sheraton hotel parking lot

    Swap Meet 8am-5pm (indoor) Sheraton hotel Wisconsin Rooms 1-4, 7 

    8am – Noon Board of Directors Meeting Milwaukee Ballroom 1

    Hospitality Open 9-5 Milwaukee Ballroom 2

    EAA-The Spirit of Aviation Museum Tour 8:30 - 3:00pm 

    Harley Davidson Museum Tour and Miller Brewery Tour 8:30 - 4:00pm 

    2-5 pm Judges Training in Milwaukee ballroom 1

    5:30-6:30pm Modified Meeting Milwaukee ballroom 1

    Photo lane open 

    6:00 -10:00pm Buick Heritage Alliance Gala Brookfield Ballroom


    Saturday, July 8th

    Registration Open 7-10am Sheraton Hotel Wisconsin Room 5

    7-8:30am Judging Breakfast  Brookfield Ballroom

    Swap Meet 8am-Noon (indoor) Sheraton hotel Wisconsin rooms 1-4, 7

    Swap Meet 8am-3pm (outdoor) Sheraton hotel parking lot

    Photo lane open

    Hospitality Open 9-2 Milwaukee Ballroom 2

    3:00-4:00pm Reatta Meeting Moorland 4

    3:30-4:30pm Heartland Region Meeting Moorland 7

    9:00 - 3:00pm Judging of beautiful BUICKS

    9:00 - 2:30pm Milwaukee Art Museum Tour 

    6:00 - 6:30pm Social Time with Cash Bar Brookfield Ballroom

    6:30 - 10:00pm 51st Annual BCA Banquet & Awards Brookfield Ballroom


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  2. I owned three of those Geo Metros in the 1990's as I was traveling around town every day.  My 1991 was the same blue color as yours.  I thought they were great cars for getting around inexpensively.  I got over 50 MPG with a standard shift.  I remember the first time I ever paid more than $10 to fill one up (10 gallon gas tank).  I put over 200,000 miles on one and I swear I never had any trouble with the 1.0 Liter 3-cylinder engine.  I was hauling computer equipment around at the time so the back seat always stayed down and the hatchback gave it plenty of room and easy access.  I gave my first one to a friend of mine who was going through a divorce and just needed a car.  I got mad when I found out he traded it in for a Firebird two weeks later. If I had know that I would have kept it.  The other two were eventually totaled in accidents that were not my fault.  Great little cars, though.

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  3. More information on the Buick Chrome Road Wheels, according to the James Brothers Bugle article (June 2002):


    1st Design (1964 Wildcat): It can be used on other full-sized Buicks from 1964 and earlier years that have a 3 1/2 inch wheel hub diameters.

    2nd Design (1965 Wildcat and Riviera): Unique to 1965, but can be used on other 1965 full-sized Buicks.  Since to only difference in design #2 from design #1 is the register ring, if you remove the register ring then it can be used on all other full-sized Buicks that design #1 can be used.

    3rd Design (1966-1967 Wildcat and Riviera without disc brakes): Can be used on same cars as design #2, but has a 2 1/8" center cap hole. (Designs #1 and #2 have a 2" center cap hole)

    4th Design (1967-1970 Wildcat and Riviera, 1970 LeSabre): Can be used on same cars as design #2 and 1967-1970 full-sized cars with disc brakes.  It has the 2 3/4" register ring and 2 1/8" center cap hole.

    5th Design (1971-1973 Centurion, 1971-1978 Riviera, 1971-1985 LeSabre, 1973-1984 Electra): Can be usd on full-sized cars from 1971-1987 except the 4 3/4 inch B.C. LeSabres and Electras. No register ring, and back to 2" center cap hole.

    6th Design (1980-1987 LeSabre and Electra): Can be used on 1971-1987 full-sized Buicks if tire to fender clearances are adequate.  They are an inch wider at 15x7.


  4. I talked to the head judge for this meet and he said you will be able to park anywhere you want up to Saturday.  However, on Saturday the cars will need to be parked according to the judging. This means that the cars judged in the formal 400 Point system, Driven class, and Display will be parked together according to the 400 point classes.  But since the Modified cars and the Archival cars are judged differently, and by different judging teams, they will be parked in their own areas. This is the same format used in previous National Meets where there has been judging. Allentown did not have formal judging, so they were able to park the cars strictly according to year. This is a judged event.

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  5. Hello Everyone,


    Just to fill everyone in, while the host hotel block for the discounted rate has been fulfilled, they do still have rooms open, but may be a little more expensive rate. For example, they are out of Standard Kings but upgraded Kings are available.   Also, the Sheraton still has a few standard doubles and upgraded doubles as well. They would be delighted to have our group essentially take over the hotel. 


    Rates are:


    Standard: $114

    Deluxe: $134

    Club Level: $144 (includes breakfast and evening hors de oeuvres)


    I just wanted to bring everyone in the loop.

  6. I found a Bugle article (June 2002) written by James Brothers, BCA #27388. It is about how to identify Buick Wheels (1964 through 1987 RWD).  I hope I'm not breaking any copyright laws for posting this, but there is a summary paragraph that I will recreate here word for word.


    On 5 inch bolt pattern wheels:

    "An X stamped next to the center cap hole is a 3rd design (1966-1967 15x6). Measure across the outer edges of the rim. if 8 inches, the wheel is a 6th design (1982-1987 15x7). Place the wheel, outer face down, on a flat surface. if the wheel rests on the center cap mounting surface and not on the rim, it is a 5th design (1971-1987 15x6). If the wheel rests on the rim and does not have a register ring, it is a 1st design (1964 15x6). If the wheel has a register ring and a 2" center cap hole, it is a 2nd design (1965 15x6). If the wheel has a register ring a 2 1/8" center cap hole and no X, it is a 4th design (1967-1970 15x6)."


    In summary:

    1st design (1964 Wildcat only): If the wheel rests on the rim and does not have a register ring. Rim code "Unistyle". 2" center cap hole. 15x6.

    2nd design (1965 Wildcat and Riviera): If the wheel rests on the rim and has a register ring. Rim code "Unistyle". 2" center cap hole. 15x6.  Same as design #1 but with a register ring.

    3rd design (1966-1967 Wildcat and Riviera without disc brakes): Has "X" stamped next to center cap. Same design as #2 (wheel rests on rim and has a register ring) but with 2 1/8" center cap hole. Rim code 802. 15x6.

    4th design (1967-1970 Wildcat and Riviera, and 1970 LeSabre, with disc brakes): Same design as #3 (wheel rests on rim and has a register ring) but more room for disc brakes, 2 1/8" center cap hole, no "X" near center cap, Rim code 853. 15x6.

    5th design ( 1971-1973 Centurion, 1971-1978 Riviera, 1971-1985 LeSabre, 1973-1984 Electra): If the wheel rests on the center cap mounting hole. No register ring, 2" center cap hole, "JJ" bead type, Rim code 865, application code WK, VT, 15x6.

    6th design (1980-1987 LeSabre and Riviera): 15x7, same basic design as #5 but an inch wider. Rim code 011, application code VC.

  7. I have already taken two small lines off and compared them to the new lines.  I am very pleased with the match.  The top one is the short line that runs from the distribution block to the left front wheel.  Notice the protection 'spring' on the new one exactly matches the old one.  The bottom one is the line from the master cylinder to the distribution block.  I'm excited that they look so closely alike.  I'll send other comparisons when I get the old lines off.

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  8. I took all of your advice into consideration and purchased a complete preformed set of OEM brake lines from a vendor that was recommended before.  I thought it might be fun to do it all myself, but buying the tubing and the necessary tools and fittings was not something I thought I could do in a timely manner.  I have limited time for working on this old Buick, so I took the lazy way out.


    I was excited when I got the notification that they had been delivered.  Four days delivery wasn't bad at all.  I was surprised when I saw the box, though. It wasn't nearly long enough for the brake line that runs from front to back.  My first thought was that perhaps they sent it in sections and I would have to make the connections to form a longer straight line.  When I opened the box I discovered they had bent the lines to fit inside the box.  I really wasn't expecting that.  Now they expect me to straighten them out.  At least they gave me instructions on how to do it.  Except some of the tags had fallen off.  I guess I'll figure it out when I get the old lines off.

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  9. Has anyone had experience with purchasing pre-formed metal brake lines as a package?  There appear to be several companies offering them online.  I need to replace the lines on my 1966 Electra Convertible, as they all seem to be rusted from sitting outside in Houston for several years.  I know I can take mine off and have a shop make them, but buying them from someone already formed seems easier.  Any thoughts?

  10. One registration fee covers you and members of your immediate family.  So, if you want to bring your spouse and son, that's all included in one fee.  However, if you want to bring your spouse and 2 of your friends, The spouse is included but the friends will count as additional guests at $20 each.  Now that you point it out, it does look confusing.  I will take out the # line for future registration forms.

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  11. Well, I wouldn't claim to be that smart.  I think logical would be fair to say.  When it comes down to functional and dependable transportation, it would be difficult to find another series or era of Buicks these days that are better.  I don't mind driving an unpopular car as long as it suits my needs.  I have other Buicks I can drive for "fun". 


    My 1991 Roadmaster Estate Wagon was my daily driver for many years.  I took my family cross-country in that car a lot, attending many BCA Nationals in it.  Now, no one in my family will be caught near it.  And my son said he'd never drive it, so I'd better find something else. Go figure.

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  12. Well said, Brad.  My experiences with rescuing these 1990's Buicks is that people won't even consider them until they are desperate.  I have to lead the people to the cars.  When I first mention that I have a good candidate for them to look at, but it is a Buick, they usually aren't that interested.  It is only after they actually see it that they become interested, with me constantly telling them how good a deal it is.  I have a 16 year old son, and he will be looking for a car soon.  Even after seeing me turn over these cars to happy new owners, he isn't interested in them.  I tell him, it beats walking.

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  13. NTX5467, it all started with that email you forwarded to a select group of North Texas BCA Members, so it would not have happened without you. 


    I know younger kids are not interested in these Buicks.  That's why I called his father first.  I didn't want to contact the seller if Evan wasn't interested in an old Buick.  It sounded like Evan bought his truck used and has had problems with it since day one.  At this point, he would take anything.  But he seemed very excited to get the LeSabre.  He brought his girlfriend, too.  She seemed more excited than Evan, probably because she won't be needed to haul him around anymore.  And she lives in Houston, so Evan can drive to see her more frequently now.

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  14. This one started with an email from one of our local North Texas Chapter members to a few other members.  Basically, he knows someone selling a 1997 LeSabre, and it seems to be in very good condition.  I received that initial email and filed it away in y mind.  3 weeks later I hear about a college student going to Texas A&M.  Evan's little truck was running so bad that he was afraid to drive it back home to north Texas, about 250 miles.  He has had it for a while and tried to repair it the best he can but now it was over heating to the point he couldn't drive it anymore.  Besides, the A/C went out several years ago and he couldn't afford to fix it.  Living in Texas with no A/C is brutal.  I first called Evan's father to see if he would even be interested in a Buick LeSabre.  His father said he would be interested in anything dependable with A/C.  I then called the phone number in the email and talked to the original owner, Tom.   Tom bought it new and has taken very good care of it,  It has been garaged all of its life, with annual checkups from the same local mechanic.  He lived only 4 miles from work, so the car only had 97,000 miles on it,  I told him about this college kid that needed a car but didn't have much money to spend.  He was sympathetic and came down several hundred dollars immediately.  I thought this could be a good deal for everyone.  So I arranged to go with the dad to see and drive the car, and he wasn't disappointed.  He took some pictures and sent them to Evan.  Of course, his son was interested.  Look at the pictures and you can see why.  A week later, the purchase was made and another old Buick found a good home.  Evan plans to keep it through college then see what happens then.  But at least he has a dependable car to drive until then. And he can come home when ever he wants and drive in comfort.


    I've lost count of how many of these 1990's Buicks that I have helped pass on to others. Most of them are still being used daily.  It feels good every time,


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  15. Here is something we received from the Sheraton host hotel about room reservations.  I hope this helps explain the hotel situation.  See the registration form for the list of alternate hotels.


    We are over the total contracted number of room nights but a lot of those are the shoulder dates.  I just sat down with our Reservations manager and went through the block and added a few more rooms and room types to the block. 


    We are completely out of standard kings in the whole hotel.  We do have upgraded king rooms at the following prices, deluxe king: $134 and club king $144.  Standard doubles we have a few but there are also upgraded doubles available. 


    Sometimes our central reservations tells people when they call in that the block is full when they ask for a specific room type, such as a standard king room.   Unfortunately, they sometimes do not say there are other room types available.  Have your guests ask if there are other room types available or they can call Joanne, our in house reservations assistant, at 262-364-1007.  She is only in during the week but if they leave her a message, she will get back to them and be happy to help them make a reservation.


    See below for full explanation about the room block but here is what we still have available:

    Doubles: $114

    Deluxe King: $134

    Club King: $144 (includes breakfast and evening hors de oeuvres)


    They can call Joanne at 262-364-1007 for reservation assistance.



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  16. On my recent trip to the north I was able to go by the Sheraton Brookfield hotel, host hotel for the 2017 BCA National meet, to scope it out for myself.  I was very impressed.  It is a nice hotel, and a great location.  It is located right by one of the major highways, has plenty of parking, and sits right next to a large shopping mall.  The mall has lots of places to eat and drink, and hundreds of stores to keep you and your spouses busy when not at the meet.  And you don't have to drive on any streets to get to the mall.  I tried to take pictures but it was cloudy and late so I didn't have enough light.  Fortunately, I was able to obtain these photos from Kris of a recent large Oldsmobile event.  You can see the options we have for parking and you can see the mall in the background.  It is a great location.  I think a lot of members are still hung over from the fantastic 50th Anniversary Meet, but July will be here before you know it, so get those registrations in.  See previous postings for links to the registration forms.

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