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Descriptions by Pat and Layden, are pointing to the Goodwin/Miller collection in Frankfort, IN.

I think Greg Lang in MI made the floats

Hank, I normally like to trade, but was hoping it to not be the case this time unless someone has a great tow vehicle for me. Not saying I would not trade for something of interest to me, but it is a less likely scenario this time. I like what cars I have to tour with right now and have little interest outside of touring. That being said, I did just buy a circa 1910 Rutenber 4 1/2 x 5” four cylinder engine. One might ask what I am going to do with that . Thing is I also must ask, as I have not yet figured that out. Have a merry Christmas. Joe

What is it’s towing capacity?

Hank, no we have a friend with a nice little museum here in Indiana selling a Jack Benny tv show Maxwell and both my son and I have Maxwells, so they likely were talked about. The Hupmobile is what we were driving around. Joe

Here are a couple additional images. We drove this car around at Hershey this year and found it quite dependable.

Is this still available?

👍🏻 Very nice.

We have done several from Texas, but we use these brown trucks that bring the parts UPS to us. Joe at Woodgrain by Estes <woodgrain@comcast.net>

This is not a historical reply, but rather something that once worked for me. Due to rusted on fasteners, I mounted the second plate over the first using the opposite set of holes. You could try mounting a dummy plate first , then the ‘to be seen’ plate and see if the end result looks okay.

This is a running driving and stopping car that is eligible for most HCCA and AACA brass and nickel era tours. Made in 1913 with the 1914 version, but does not have the optional electric start and lighting. Rather, it has a dependable hand crank start, gas headlamps and kerosene cowl and tail lamps. Ignition is by high tension Bosch DU4 magneto. Upholstery is combination of original and replacement and paint is old but still shiny. A good driver. Price $19,500. Located in Lafayette, IN 47904 . Cell 765-427-7078

Thanks for making me aware that I omitted the price. I was not hiding the price, I just failed to type it.

This Hupmobile uses hand crank to start and does so dependably. It has gas headlights and kerosene cowl and tail lamps. The trim is nickel plated. It runs, drives and stops. A good driver that has usable upholstery and paint, but is not recent nor show condition. At $19,500 , a fun way to join in the brass era and nickel touring. Located in Lafayette, IN (765)427-7078 cell. Joe

This 1913/14 Hupmobile model 32 touring runs, drives, stops. It is an old restoration that is no where near show quality, but should make a dependable driver for brass era or nickel car tours. We drove this car around Hershey the whole week and had a blast with it. We even drove it in the evenings using the gas and kerosine lamps. Asking $19,500. Located in Indiana. Cell 765-427-7078

Having had two Cartercars, I can tell you the perceived negatives are false. I have run in driving rains on New London to Brighton with no lose of drive mechanism traction. The paper wheel holds up well and I never wore out a driven wheel. The drive wheel can wear, but if you wish to sacrifice some of the grip, a tougher drive wheel can be had. New roads allow for easily maintaining a friction drive for touring. While in theory the pressure of the friction drive does not put force on the engine, many cars have had the thrust bearing area wear, indicating that it happens. Poor friction drive units usually have had the thrust bearings compromised, and usually in the engine, which makes the fix more costly. So assuming the friction drive unit is working properly, I would say take the car for a drive. If you are happy with how it handles at a speed you are okay with, call it good.