IndianaCarGuy

That's rather harsh,..I don't see where Howard said that, it looks ot me like he is just concerned that a lot of people are forced to vote for people even though the voters feel unqualified, and uninformed on some of the people they are voting for (and in some cases,...feel overqualified to be forced to vote for them). It does seem odd that a person in Fargo, North Dakota needs to vote for someone in Pensacola, Florida. (Any odder than some other elections in Florida, it is not) <BR>Practicality forces this,..but it is a valid concern. Why should anyone be forced to vote for anyone, or anything that they feel unqualified, or uncompelled to do. I understand the reasoning for it,... numerically, butI also know it is basically against the herd to compel anyone to vote for people without due understanding and knowledge. Bios, etc. are helpful,..and it is no worse than what we sometimes have to do in electing our own government officials,..but this is not a government, it is a car club. I am afraid I understand the concerns, that it is getting out of hand and overlarge,...cumbersome to vote just because it numerically makes sense. I do agree, also, that it might be better to get more names in the process, Sal,... if only to allow further options of dissent. Personally,... where I am now, I feel extremely powerless without a local organization. I can neither participate, nor feel good about being a part of a regional organization. The nearest organization is 4 hours away from me, and I cannot attend either meetings, or know anyone involved.<P><BR>What do I know,.... There are two concerns, having enough people on board to do the work, and having the concerned (voting membership) feel they are making both a valid, and informed vote. Maybe too much is being sacrificed in the name of practicality.<P>robert<P><p>[This message has been edited by IndianaCarGuy (edited 02-20-2001).]

Very much argued, but even the Smithsonian accepts that Elwood Haynes had the first DRIVING vehicle that was gas powered, 1893. Look up the Elwood Haynes Museum on the web. There were a lot of gasoline engines, by 1882, but since the chain drive was actually not done (well) until 1887, anything prior to 1890 was probably not a working and drivable vehicle. There is a great deal of controversy, and I have seen two vehicles which were RUNNING in 1884-1887,...neither one was actually drivable until after 1893.<BR>rs

No one deserves to end up like that. Racing is a dangerous, and, for the most part, worthwhile pursuit,...and it never fails to sadden everyone when something like this happens. There is no consolation for the many friends, and family,... when you are involved in a sport, you know the risks, and the pitfalls,... When you are involved in something you enjoy, something you love,...you make trade-offs,....I still dislike the fact it happened. But things like that do,... Maybe it was preventable, maybe not. That is not up to me to decide. Let's just ask for a little compassion and mercy for the friends and family. They must be suffering greatly right now.<P>RS

Also like to know where you are, am in Austin, Texas. E-mail me or post a reply<P>RS

I once heard that Jack Benny used about 7 Maxwells for gags and that he actually bought five of them, one wound up years ago in West Lafayette, Indiana. I saw a picture of the owner and Jack Benny in the owner's home. No idea what happened to the car after the owner passed away, but the car was completely redone.<P>RS

A person decides to go out, drive in the country with his old car. This is an occasion. Two people do this, ...meet, discuss cars, and decide to do it again at another time,...this is a beginning. Five, ten,....fifteen,...this is an event. We do this to share, to have fun, we organize into clubs,.... we discover, to our surprise, that there are tens of thousands of lunatics, just like us. Maybe millions. One, ten,... a thousand,.... same difference, same value, same spirit. I'm a nut, I admit it. I value it. Name or not,..it's all the same,... a place to meet other loonies.<P>Robert.

have her post a list here that helps a lot<P>RS

I miss everything fun.<P>Robert Swim

My father ran a Goodyear store and service, and it was always my understanding that the type of tire and ply was what mattered, not the width. I also did some research on the early development of the Balloon tire vs. the straight-walled ones, and I seem to recall that pre-1925 (straight-walled) tires<BR>were more apt to blow out the sidewall if inflated too much, and that the advantage of the Balloon tire was it could handle lower pressure, as well as higher pressure ( more extremes) and handle more weight because it relied on the inflated shape of the tire to lock in in place, and not a thick sidewall to keep the shape. Above all things,... it was pounded in my head to FOLLOW THE MANUFACTURERS' directions, and that definitely means not get your information from the period literature and research,... so,... I will have to defer to both of the previous posts as far as experience, They are both more experienced than I, and just advise you to contact the manufacturer. I have heard both of these answers before, 60 psi and 80 for the 33"x4", but it was a straight-wall and a balloon tire comparison, and I don't recall which used which, though both were repros, I think you need to find out who made the tires and contact them for a definitive answer. <P>RS<P>[This message has been edited by IndianaCarGuy (edited 02-11-2001).]<p>[This message has been edited by IndianaCarGuy (edited 02-11-2001).]

Selling out is better than smearing vaseline on the grill and parking it in the backside of the guy who rebuilt it for you. I am sure you feel pretty bad, and we've all been taken for that ride, at least once. I applaud your tact, reserve and,....hope you keep a lead life preserver on the boat,...just in case the guy who rebuilt the car for you ever needs it!<P>RS

If that letter was from the "best" anything on the planet,...I think it's time to shop in another galaxy. Regardless of what was happening to, or what was said to any vendor or service company, that behavior is both uncalled for,...and just plain foolish. They should expect this letter to be published for all to see,..and suffer the consequences which are due in such a foolish response. If that means they are run out of the business,..GOOD!<P>RS

Whites are ok,..Wintons drive and handle better, I drove a 1908. They were the most expensive car built in America prior to WWI.<BR>However, Whites, Wintons, and Locomobiles bring huge sums of money, and will trash your budget locating (or manufacturing) parts. Oddly enough, Studebakers and EMF's after 1909 are pretty nice to drive, but they, like a lot of the cars after 1911, advanced to electricity, and are, depite being brass era, are electric lighted cars. The nicest one are the ones with electric headlights, and carbide or gas cowl lites, but that is a rarity, from about 1911-1913.<BR> I have never driven one, but seen Coles, from 1911 to 1913, and it was Cole that advertised, about 1913, that it was "The Standardized Car," meaning it used standard bolts, fasteners, etc,. rather than using a combination of standard, National, Whitworth, etc,..which was common to most assembled cars. After the nightmare of working on wagons, steam engines, tractors and non-standardized cars,..I would prefer a Cole, if I could find one. I may know where there is a 1913 touring for sale,..with an old restoration. A 1910 Cole was the first car presented to a president, in 1910. I have no idea what ever happened to the one which was presented, but it would be nice to find out.<P>RS<p>[This message has been edited by IndianaCarGuy (edited 02-11-2001).]

I'm interested in hearing what progress was made on the museum issue.<P>RS

I seem to recall a 1931 President that was for sale I saw that had been in long-term storage,..is this the one? Would like to see more of this car, but I am in Austin, Texas.<P>Robert

have any pictures of it? where are you located? I assume it is unrestored for the most part? what condition is the rest in?<P>RS<p>[This message has been edited by IndianaCarGuy (edited 02-10-2001).]

They are looking for someone at Greenfield village to work on mechanical equipment, the carousel, and various other projects, anyone know anyone who's up there? I'd like to know a bit more about the place, not been there since I was a kid.<P>RS

Thanks, I made an offer for the car, but I think perhaps the owner felt it was below what he needed for the vehicle, he spent a lot of time on mechanicals before he realized how difficult the wood was going to be,..I don't think I undervalued it, but we'll see.<P>RS

Zdrast! Translate-ovat Eto Po-Angleeski, Pozhalsto?<P>Robert

It's not local, no,..but I am checking on the hauling and need those two areas most critically, pot metal and wood, especially the wood! If I can locate a source, or assistance with it, I'll buy it,..if not,..I hate this, but I will pass it by!<P>rs

is there a good source of ready-made wood for a 1927 Buick? It is the large sedan with oval opera windows, and I need pot metal handles, wood and interior fabric (have the original for patterns. Also,... anyone have a 1926 Buick Brougham they want to talk about, or answer some questions? This looks like a bear to take on,..but the condition of the car is overall decent, and it runs and drives. Anyone care to comment?<P>Robert

It's too bad there is not a magic formula for this,... a price needs to be done by comparing it to similar condition cars, in same state of preservation, and Hemmings Motor News has an informal appraisal on it's web site. Unfortunately, telling condition usually entails paying someone experienced to go out and examine the cars, and actually determine the condition, and advise a price. This service usually costs between $50 and $200 per car, depending on type, and opens you up to all sorts of fakery and incompetent shysters. <P>It is sometimes possible to find someone local who is a restorer and ask, but even if they offer to examine it for free, offer them $$ anyway, to keep it professional, and get a receipt. I have done this a number of times, and never asked for front money, despite informing the people it is a service, and has taken me a number of years to be able to do so.<P>Combine an informal appraisal with the Hemmings estimate (if one is available) and and do a reasonable average to determine a rough price. ALL OLD CARS ARE NOT SOLID GOLD, so don't go into this expecting a mint. If people realized how much money is involved in restoration itself, they would not be so unreasonable. It has been my experience that the restorers are much more realistic than non-hobbyist sellers.<P>Finally, get an ad WITH A PICTURE in a national magazine like Hemmings Motor News, and put a picture up online here. Be prepared to not get your asking price, but don't let someone degrade the car and tell you how awful it is, either,...if it so bad, why do they want it?? Get in touch with the AACA people close to you for further suggestions, I am in Austin, Texas, so I probably cannot help you out unless you are close, besides, I specialize in the cars made in Indiana, between 1900-1925.<P>Robert Swim

The large EMF cars are fun, drive well, reasonably easy to get parts for (but not easy) and they don't do bad as far as dependability or speed, but maybe that is because they were an early buyout of Studebaker, and they were purchased for these reasons. I also agree with Howard, buy the one you like, don't set up a lot of criteria ahead of time.<P>RS

Any public forum breeds the odd. Water boils at 212 degrees, give or take the diffential based on altitude and pressure, Grain alcohol causes the uptake of oxygen in the blood to be less, and can create problems in reaction time, orientation, balance, and motor skills, as well as delusional and other chemically induced imbalances. What does this have to do with previous posts? <P>You decide.

There used to be a Marion-Handley at the Indianapolis 500 Museum,..it was a loaner, so I don't know if it is still there. They were a pretty large car, and I understand they were popular as taxis, at least in Indianapolis. Try "cruise-in", for more info on Indiana-built cars. I got to drive a 1905 Marion,... it was a two cylinder, looked like a converted buggy, and was very imprecise in the steering. It was fun,..but I would not want to go on a trip in one.<BR>RS<p>[This message has been edited by IndianaCarGuy (edited 02-03-2001).]

E-mail me with details, or contact Auburn Cord Duesenberg Museum. have model number, body style and number, type of engine and what condition it is in.<P>RS<BR>