Ron Green

From the meet chairman: “All 3 gates will be open all 3 days. People will be available to direct those to each area. Gate 2 would be closest to the flea market.”

Since we are expanding to other area nearby hotels they have asked that there be no trailer parking in their lots since many will be full. Typically the lots are not designed with too many extra parking spaces especially with trailers that can take 4 spaces plus at a time. With that said and to answer your question: yes you will be able to pay for trailer parking the day of arrival if not already prepaid.

From our meet chairman: Deadline is April 30, although we will not turn down flea market vendors who show up for the meet as long as they are either willing to join AACA on the spot, or are already members.

Here is a PDF. 2013_Carlisle.pdf

Yes, possibly the committee should have inserted the word manufactured or assembled however the intent was to try and pin down true PA vehicles thus the reasoning for also inserting the word “headquartered”. Personally I think it would be impossible for anyone to accurately come up with a list of what parts that were manufactured in house for over 300 vehicles that are 80 to 100 years old. The list we are using for a base was developed by the Swigart Museum who in my option did a great job developing this document. We are just a bunch of old car guys and gals trying to do the best we can in organizing a national meet and trying something a little different with this special PA vehicle feature display. Maybe it will work and maybe it won’t but we tried something different.

From the attached PDF of PA vehicles above; please tell me which manufactures from that list bought the majority of their parts for assembly and did not manufacture them at their plants since the majority of the vehicles on that list are in the 1898 to 1915 age range? Also where would a person find that information (especially vehicles prior to 1915) as I would like to do some follow up research on this and I can’t seem to find that info anywhere. Thanks in advance.

Charlie, the intent of the committee in charge of this portion of the meet is to have true 100% PA vehicles that were both headquartered and build in Pennsylvania featured. With the said we certainly understand that VW manufacturing is a part of PA history so consideration would be given (possibly a Rabbit car and pick-up) to a few select VW’s for display with signage noting the PA connection. I don’t believe that a special “featured” display like this with class judging in place has ever been done at a AACA national meet so we are learning. We are hoping to fill Building T at the fairgrounds with some historic and unusual PA vehicles that will interest many.

After a discussion with the meet chairman and some research on where the Volkswagen of America was “headquartered” back in the day; in 2008 Volkswagen of America’s “headquarters” moved from Auburn Hills, Mich., to Herndon, Va. Volkswagen’s Westmoreland (New Stanton PA) Assembly Plant was considered a manufacturing plant. The New Stanton PA plant manufactured the Golf / Rabbit (79–84); Rabbit GTI (83–84); Rabbit Pickup (1979–1982); the Golf Mk2 and GTI (85–89) and the Jetta (87–89).

You win. My 55’s accessories and options are all correct for the year and model. Certain accessories like the deluxe steering wheel, stainless fender skirts, etc were not available on the lower end Chieftain series. The traffic light viewer (not offered separately) and visor were a packaged unit (I have NOS in the box set-up) thus one accessory as the viewer was not needed without the visor. A 6-way power seat wasn’t available until 1956 and dual spotlights were not available for 55. 1955 was the first year the 287 V8 was offered. I have been looking for the following correct for 1955 accessories: radiator insect screen, exterior extremely large 3 piece bumper mounted insect screen and the umbrella (4 styles offered). My vehicle has the umbrella holder however the umbrella is missing. Willing to pay top $ for any of these items.

Hi Charles, Been crazy busy and haven’t been posting here for a while. My 55 Custom Catalina has 51 out of a possible 62 factory options and accessories. A few of the oddballs; Thermaster refrigerator, Thermaster hot/cold liquid jug, rear window defogger, ladies purse holder, Remington auto/home shaver, autronic eye, compass, etc. Paul Decker has one similar to mine however it was a dealers wife’s car and has a few more goodies. A few of the awards are; POCI gold (3 times), AACA grand national senior (4 times), Amelia Island Concours and Greenwich Concours (1st in class), featured on My Classic Car with Dennis Gage. Vehicle currently is on loan to the America on Wheels Museum in Allentown PA.

Made a wood frame on the trailer floor next to the side door so the jack wheels fit inside plus chained the handle to the side of the trailer so it doesn't move and it also keeps the jack wheels from moving around. Many miles and zero isses.

If this display of PA vehicles comes together like we are hoping it should be stunning. There are a few one of a kinds out there and somewhat local and hopefully obtainable.

Attached is a list of PA vehicles. PA vehicle List.pdf

To be held at the Carlisle fairgrounds May 30th, 31st & June 1st. Please note that the details and logistics for this national meet are still being worked out and finalized. We have many more meetings to go. Here is what I have been asked to pass on. Please address all other inquiries to the meet chairman: Don Barlup - email pullman1914@aol.com or via phone at 717-790-9440. • Building T, which will be open from 7:00 AM till 5:00 PM Thursday and Friday and until 3:00 PM on Saturday, at the Carlisle Fairgrounds, will be featuring Pennsylvania headquartered and manufactured vehicles, which will be on display starting Thursday. If you have a vehicle that fits this description please contact the Meet Chairman Don Barlup or Bob Shultz at (717) 766-0457 or bobshop13@verizon.net. All PA vehicles will be judged in place in Building T and will receive a special commemorative memento of the occasion. You must pre-register your vehicle if you want it judged. We are hoping to fill the building so please consider registering your PA vehicle. I will try and post a list of the PA vehicles in the near future. • The race car conditioning run will be on Friday at the fairgrounds. Details and times are still being worked out. No other is info available as of this date. • Click here for a map of the area: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Carlisle,+P.A.&hl=en&ie=UTF8&view=map • The Host hotel is the Hotel Carlisle (formerly the Embers), 1-800-692-7315. The Hotel Carlisle & Embers Convention Center is located four miles from the Carlisle Fairgrounds and will serve as the Meet Headquarters. The room rate will be $85.00 + taxes per night. It will be your responsibility to reserve your own room. Please contact the Meet Chairman Don Barlup for an alternative listing of area hotels, which are located in the general area of the host hotel. All activities and banquets will take place at the Hotel Carlisle. • The Saturday car show will be held on the infield at the Carlisle Fairgrounds. Registration will be from 7:00 am till 11:00 am at the show field. Judging of show cars will begin promptly at 11:00 am. All vehicles must remain on the show field till 3:00 pm. Enter at Gate # 2. • Trailer parking & self contained motor homes: There will be ample space available for motor homes at $50.00 regardless of stay (no hook ups) at the Carlisle Fairgrounds. Trailer parking will be available at the Carlisle Fairgrounds at $20.00 regardless of stay. There will be no motor home or trailer parking in the host hotel parking lots. Gettysburg Region workers (wearing dark blue logo T-shirts) will be available beginning at 9:00 am on Wednesday, May 29th to assist with parking. Please note. A motor home pulling a trailer will be $70.00 regardless of stay and will be parked together. Please enter at Gate # 1. • Spectator parking: There will be ample free parking and admission at the Carlisle Fairgrounds. Enter at Gate # 3. • The flea market and car corral will be located at the Carlisle Fairgrounds. The flea market and car corral will be operating from 8:00 am till 5:00 pm daily beginning Thursday, and from 8:00 am till 3:00 pm on Saturday. Space size 10 x 30. Indoor flea market space is available at the Fairgrounds, space size is 10 x 15. Car corral limited to 1988 and earlier non-modified vehicles. • Car wash: Located at the Carlisle Fairgrounds Office Complex – You will need to bring your own towels and supplies. • Overnight security will be provided at the Carlisle Fairgrounds from 10:00 PM till 6:00 AM Thursday and Friday nights only. • Membership roundtable: Friday – 1:00 to 2:00 pm at the Hotel Carlisle. See meet info regarding the tours offers and times. • Shuttle bus: On Saturday, a continuous shuttle bus service is available between the Hotel Carlisle and the Carlisle Fairgrounds from 7:00 AM till 4:00 PM. We will attempt to provide transportation between the Hotel Carlisle and the Fairgrounds for those needing it, to attend the Thursday and Friday evening activities. You must sign up at the Registration Desk in advance of the activity. • Youth program: On Saturday an entertaining and educational program geared towards all age groups will take place from 11:00 AM to 1:00 PM at Building T adjacent to the show field. Scheduled are automotive related contests for the younger ones and for the older ones a hands on session of how to work on an antique vehicle using tools of the day. For all age groups we will feature the in depth history of a few unique PA vehicles followed by rides given in several old vehicles ranging from a Model T to an Amphicar (land or water). All youth are encouraged to attend.

According to the seminars I attended on this subject (and the website) the HO's will be available and are not on the hit list.

T-12 HO’s are here to stay. Other non HO T-12’s stopped production in July however there is still a fair amount in the pipeline. http://applications.nam.lighting.philips.com/legislationcalc/search-results/?shape=reflector

Bob, you said you have high output tubes and they are designed a little differently so you can’t insert regular tubes in a HO fixture. The HO’s have 2 pins in a somewhat square piece of plastic.

I remember that forecast. It was guaranteed 2’minimum. Even the caterpillars were furriery than usual with thicker black rings and Punxsutawney Phil woke up and moved to another borrow.

When the team captain comes up to you right before they judge your vehicle simply tell him if there are any questions regarding authenticity on anything to please see you. It is up to you to have the documentation on your vehicle to be able to show and answer his question(s). I have been through the process many times with my 55’s accessories.

Chris was one of a kind. Our AACA Region is fortunate to be part of the Eastern Museum of Motor Racing (EMMR) and we hold our meeting in the Chris Economaki library. His lifetime of photographs, articles, etc are housed at EMMR and I try and dig into something new at each visit. www.emmr.org

Quote: “What do you have for a exhaust deflector and what car?? I'm looking for something for my 27 Buick Woodie. LeBaron Bonney had a few.” Mine is factory correct for a 1955 & 1956 Pontiac . I do not know anything regarding the 27 Buick's.

There probably were as many aftermarket exhaust tips manufactured as there are factory correct accessory exhaust tips. Many shapes and sizes. For factory correct you need to look in the correct model year factory ligature as they are well documented. My exhaust deflector (factory typically called them deflectors not tips) which is an odd shape has been checked for originally many times by AACA judges without issues as I had the correct factory documentation.

Or…………………. after driving 600 miles to a show / tour you pull your highly detailed car out of the trailer at the hotel in the rain so you can take your rig 100 miles (one way) to go get a friend’s car that broke down on the way to the event. A friend who no longer questions why you have a trailer especially since he is always borrowing tools and parts to keep his car going.

My 2 cents on an old continuing discussion: Apparently to some if you trailer a vehicle for whatever reason some consider it snobby, unnecessary, ridiculous, not good for the hobby, not part of the hobby, being a showoff, etc. Most never spent thousands of hours restoring a vehicle (or multiple vehicles) themselves as you and many others have done. It is easy making a perfect vehicle to a driver however impossible to take a driver to a perfect vehicle. If your enjoyment is restoring to perfect, again good for you however that too is frowned on by some. My antique insurance policy states that the vehicle must be in a secured lockable place overnight. Personally I find a trailer handy when traveling especially for tours far from home. Lots of room for spare parts and luggage and you’re not driving an old vehicle on a interstate and one that may have a top speed of 50 (dangerous). Get there, unload and have fun. I have brough a few back with broken suspensions on the trailer. There is room in this hobby for all: tin can or no tin can.