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  1. FS - 1982 Buick Riviera convertible Year - 1982 Make - Buick Model - Riviera convertible (model 4EZ67) Price - $10,000 Description - excellent, correct, original, dry, western car Color - Arctic white, white top Interior - red leather (like every other one) Miles - 38,000 Engine - 307 Oldsmobile V-8 Location - Cheyenne, Wyoming Note - bought from Barney Smith collection (Denver) in 2000 Contact - John W. Whitehead: 307-634-1777 or jwwwy@hotmail.com
  2. 1 - 1994 Roadmaster wagon - all available options; woodie delete. 2 - 1982 Riviera convertible - all available options. 3 - 1979 Ford LTD wagon - only options: 351 Windsor; air; luggage rack; AM-FM cassette. 3 - 1969 Ford Falcon Futura wagon - only options: 302 Windsor V-8; C-4 automatic; Philco AM radio; power steering; remote driver door rear view mirror; tinted windshield; "2 Way Magic Doorgate" (no power brakes, no air). - ranchero -
  3. Tom - I have an '82 Riviera convertible that I will sell for $9,500 firm. Mileage is about 38,000 (I will have to check exact figure later). This is a white car. Paint is original. Bumper fillers are all intact. Car is excellent and original. Convertible top is correct white and it was a new replacement for original top in the year 2000. Rear glass is not yellowed; a correct Riviera convertible top is glass only. My car is a 307 Oldsmobile V-8. I am third owner; car is an always western and dry car. Original selling dealer was Walt Adams Buick in Glendale, AZ. Car sold again in 1987 in Phoenix
  4. This is refreshing. This is a much more informed discussion than those that have previously appeared here; there are many more informed consumers out there. The federal politicians have so skewered the oil industry; it has to be obvious that they are simply deflecting blame from themselves. The industry is ultra efficient and a good investment vehicle for all of us. The politicians produce nothing and only interfere with the free market discovery, production, refining and distribution of finished fuels. To wit, the boobs in the federal government could quickly fix the following: - cost of etha
  5. Received in Cheyenne, Wyoming Tuesday 14 March. Ranchero
  6. The one not to buy? Probably the one I've got - a Roadmaster wagon. Please be assured that a Roadmaster wagon is a fine car, but mine has proven to be an extremely effective repellant to females, especially any in teenage/20s years; they hate it. It is also huge and probably impossible for a careless and young driver to operate without hitting various things. So, though I love mine, I would say the one Buick not to get for a female teenager would be the Roadmaster wagon. Of course if the idea is that she use it only for limited purposes and not to carry other teens around town, the Roadmaster
  7. Well that local dealer got the Lucerne brochures; the rack was jammed full when I stopped by this morning. Salesmen were busy selling red tag GMC SUVs though. Mid-level Northstar V-8 seems just about right, especially with slate & blue guts. The more I look the more I like the interior. Controls make sense and that is a clean, well designed insturment panel. I do not like front wheel drive nor a four door sedan, but the warranty is good. However will a bankrupt GM back the warranty? Seriously, can one risk spending so much money on a warrantied car that is sold by a company so very close
  8. Today I inspected the one and only Lucerne our local Buick dealer has. This one was a six cylinder car; the salesman informed me that the Northstar Lucerne is not yet being made (?). Also not yet available were any sales brochures (is this a good way to introduce a new car?). The interior is the best part of the car. It is very well designed. This one had bucket seats with a console - very nice. There is a tach. The controls are well thought out. Also the rear legroom is amazing - like a BMW 7 series. The cruise control on that Dodge Charger is pure Mercedes. It is quite easy and logical to us
  9. Well my wife, for the first time since we've been married, noticed a Buick ad on TV and told me so. I have not seen it, but the subject is the heated windshield washer system in a Lucerne. This is amazing progress for a stylish, smart, professional woman to notice an advertisement for a Buick! I like the Lucerne a lot. The style - both inside and out - is great. I like the Northstar V-8. The interior looks wonderful; I like the easy to use, big controls. The colors are good. The new, longer warranty is quite welcome. I would prefer a coupe - a Riviera version about four inches shorter. I do n
  10. Dave at Moon says "I'm more convinced it's because white people run those companies". Isn't that comment as racist the use of "Jap"? White people run Microsoft, E-Bay, Pepsico and Johnson & Johnson. Any problem with the white folks' management of those companies? Or do you just dislike white people? Sky King: No, maybe American companies can not take money back here from sales of cars in Japan however GM is doing so from Buicks made in Shanghai and sold in China. That is a little good news to go with the fleets of Boeings that are being sold to China. Clearly the problem with production
  11. Centurion - Great photos. These belong on the next book on automobile dealerships. I appreciate the turntable. I remember the Buick dealership on Piedmont in Atlanta. It had a turntable out on the corner. The last time I saw the place a new '82 Riviera convertible was roatating in the sun. Don't know if the turtable or dealership is still there, but your signage & dealership posts belong in some kind of archive. Thanks - Ranchero
  12. That is absolutely great stuff and thanks for posting those photos. I've never bought or even priced one, but I imagine those signs by now have appreciated by a much greater percentage than the Buick cars that were current when the signs were erected at Buick dealerships.
  13. I own a straight stock 1982 Riviera convertible. Is mine a modified car? GM built it for Buick (with a hardtop) in New Jersey and then shipped it to ASC in Lansing. ASC chopped off the roof, built a unique back seat, windshield header and convertible top (adapted later for '84 & '85 Eldorados) and then shiped the cars to Buick dealers. Buick sold them for 1982 to 1985 model years. Is my car a legitimate Buick or is it a modified car? What about the H/E (modified at Cincinnati) brand new Toronado or Ciera convertibles that were, unlike the Rivieras and Eldorados found in then current Buick
  14. Norb - So what? Are you against capitalism? Are you offended by other corporations making "record profits"? What if Pfizer made record profits? What if Wal Mart or General Electric did so? What if somehow General Motors could make record profits, much less any profit ever again? Why are oil profits so offensive? They produce a product that is in demand, that has a limited and damaged supply system. They should earn profit always and record profit when their business is threatened by natural disaster, government regulation or populist and wacky sentiment. Oil extractors, refiners, distributors
  15. Dave@Moon: "Ranchero really meant it?" Of course I mean it. If you do not like the price of fuel then the smart thing to do is to drive a Prius, I guess. Or maybe ride a motorcycle in the summer (as I do)? Or how about one of those cute Vespas they sell in downtown Denver? Or, if you live in a big city you could ride the bus or tram or whatever serves your neighborhood. A consumer does not need to use V-8 Buicks. I like them & I certainly don't care what the price of fuel is when I go to the pump. Dave@Moon, I think you are silly to be such an enviro and consumer geek when the cost of the
  16. Roberta - Thank you. I went to the GM website for the info & then searched the local dealer inventory for the XLR. All but one of the local XLRs were black; there was one blue one. I like red. The employee discount price was $68K+. That is getting close; the Mercedes SL500 starts at about $87+K. I'd buy the Cadillac in red for about $60K/$62K. That was the first time I visited the GM web site; it worked well. I have GM card points to use (and have had for years but no GM car has interested me). There is no Buick I want and the XLR is the only GM car that intrigues me at all. My newest GM
  17. I read the stories about the sale and saw a big ad in today's WSJ. I wonder what would be the delivered cost, after employee discount and any other current rebates, of an in stock Cadillac XLR? It is a Northstar V-8 & may even have a "gas guzzler" tax for all I know so it is anything but politically correct but boy, it is pretty. Since the car came I out I've thought it was priced too near to the Mercedes SL500 - a clearly superior car. But maybe, with GM's current inventory problems, that XLR can be had more reasonably. One wonders if the warranty term (four years) might be longer than th
  18. HurstGN - The oil giants have no obligation to explain or justify to you their pricing structure. If you don't like the way they price fuels, don't use what they sell. The major oils exercise integrity in the quarterly and annual reporting to their shareholders/owners. They have a great record with investors - through good management they increase the per share value of the investment and they also increase the quarterly per share dividend paid to owners. They have no obligation to please you - none. Again, if you so dislike them, then simply use less or none of their product. Spend it on beer
  19. It is capitalism; it is supply and demand. Right now we have a huge supply of refined fuels available; the retail price has diminished a bit. And don't suggest the oil majors are other than "honest" with you. Those companies are owned by investor/shareholders; they report quarterly results as required. The obligation of the oil company is not to provide you with what you consider reasonably priced fuel or to provide you with what you feel is "honest" information. The obligation of the oil company is to make a profit in order to provide a return to the owner/investors. The fuel provided by the
  20. For that scientist Dave@Moon who uses the word "collusion" to describe pricing of gasoline near his home - try, just one time, to understand that basic principle of economics called supply and demand. There is no "collusion". The Dummycrats tried that issue the last time the price of gasoline rose for awhile. There never has been "collusion"; there never will be. The price of gasoline is dependent on the free market - plus any local taxation our various governments decide we deserve. There has been more demand than supply - that simple. However, the price of Saudi crude has dropped over $5 per
  21. Dear Dave at Moon: You state that "the point of this thread was that we are risking our own national security by driving thirsty pigs for no reason". You are very out of touch here. I, and many others who visit old car web sites, drive thirsty pigs because we like them. They are enjoyable. They are history. They are fun. I filled up an old V-8 Buick today; it cost a lot of money. Still, I don't regret it. I enjoy driving the old car; I love old cars with history and character (though they suck up fuel). Do you like old cars - our just Prius and the like? I find it amusing that you will buy int
  22. Skyking - exactly right; you got it! Even a $3,000 '76 Electra 225 at 9mpg does the job well! Dave at Moon - did you use the word "demand"? That is a consumer generated economic concept. Do you understand demand? Nobody wants to drive a Prius; it is slow, handles poorly, looks stupid but makes a statement. I guess that your neighbors would be impressed with one in your driveway. I bet Skyking's driveway is a lot more interesting than yours.
  23. Dave Moon: I am not heeding the "facts" and "science" you cite. You state ANWR can only produce "X". This may be indicated in some research you have done. I might question your credibility, the credibility of your resources and your willingness to find other citations. But especially I just don't accept your perspective. If you say "X" and I say "Y", what's the point? ANWR is just a small portion of what we can go get. We can get more petroleum off the coast of California, off the coast of Florida, off the coast of Louisiana, off the north coast of Alaska, from the Rockies (at $55/bbl it works
  24. Dave Moon - No personal comments whatsoever, but did you sell your car? Do you ride the bus? If you really believe all this stuff that you present, do you like cars? Why tell those of us who do like cars how hopeless energy consumption is? And rather than harp at the rest of us who enjoy cars, why not simply accept that we who do love cars are going to continue to use them - regardless. If we lived in Europe or Japan or Hong Kong, we might ride public transit and find a better hobby - one more suitable to our residence. In the USA we have fun roads, wonderful cars, long distances, cheap (stil
  25. Dave Moon - I know that your postings were intended to steer the discussion to what you consider practical, energy saving ways we could conserve what you consider to be limited resources. My response, and probably that of others, was not intended to "shout you down". You are certainly welcome to try these schemes and to tell us about your discoveries. My responses have been intended to present an alternate point of view - mainly that conservation is silly and not necessary. Your perspective is certainly influenced by different input that I have been using. Of course, I am an investor and a cap
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