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  1. FS - 1982 Buick Riviera convertible Year - 1982 Make - Buick Model - Riviera convertible (model 4EZ67) Price - $10,000 Description - excellent, correct, original, dry, western car Color - Arctic white, white top Interior - red leather (like every other one) Miles - 38,000 Engine - 307 Oldsmobile V-8 Location - Cheyenne, Wyoming Note - bought from Barney Smith collection (Denver) in 2000 Contact - John W. Whitehead: 307-634-1777 or jwwwy@hotmail.com
  2. 1 - 1994 Roadmaster wagon - all available options; woodie delete. 2 - 1982 Riviera convertible - all available options. 3 - 1979 Ford LTD wagon - only options: 351 Windsor; air; luggage rack; AM-FM cassette. 3 - 1969 Ford Falcon Futura wagon - only options: 302 Windsor V-8; C-4 automatic; Philco AM radio; power steering; remote driver door rear view mirror; tinted windshield; "2 Way Magic Doorgate" (no power brakes, no air). - ranchero -
  3. Tom - I have an '82 Riviera convertible that I will sell for $9,500 firm. Mileage is about 38,000 (I will have to check exact figure later). This is a white car. Paint is original. Bumper fillers are all intact. Car is excellent and original. Convertible top is correct white and it was a new replacement for original top in the year 2000. Rear glass is not yellowed; a correct Riviera convertible top is glass only. My car is a 307 Oldsmobile V-8. I am third owner; car is an always western and dry car. Original selling dealer was Walt Adams Buick in Glendale, AZ. Car sold again in 1987 in Phoenix & moved to Denver. I bought car from Denver in 2000 and moved it to Cheyenne, Wyoming at that time. Car has most options available in 1982. Ranchero/J. W. Whitehead/Cheyenne, WY/BCA 33109/jwwwy@hotmail.com
  4. This is refreshing. This is a much more informed discussion than those that have previously appeared here; there are many more informed consumers out there. The federal politicians have so skewered the oil industry; it has to be obvious that they are simply deflecting blame from themselves. The industry is ultra efficient and a good investment vehicle for all of us. The politicians produce nothing and only interfere with the free market discovery, production, refining and distribution of finished fuels. To wit, the boobs in the federal government could quickly fix the following: - cost of ethanol additive by lifting tariffs on imported ethanol - requiring the use only of difficult to transport ethanol as an additive - the failure in the last energy bill to provide liability protection to MTBE producers - the proliferation of mandated specialized gasoline blends for different areas - reduction in federal gasoline taxes (last raised under the Clinton administration) In the longer term, the feds could do the following fixes: - encourage construction of refineries by tax policy and elimination of excessive permitting hurdles - encourage rather than restrict the drilling for the resource in America and off the coasts, regardless of environmental activist complaints - end subsidization of ethanol production; make it be competitive in the market - encourage through tax incentives, fuel standards, etc. the production/consumption of diesel automobiles to the level of use in Europe As a note, our local refinery is expanding capacity, primarily to meet upcoming lower sulphur diesel content mandates. Those five cylinder Mercedes diesels running all around Europe look quite appealing to me now. I rode in one for four days in Germany earlier this month; the car was remarkably refined for a diesel - fast and quiet.
  5. Received in Cheyenne, Wyoming Tuesday 14 March. Ranchero
  6. The one not to buy? Probably the one I've got - a Roadmaster wagon. Please be assured that a Roadmaster wagon is a fine car, but mine has proven to be an extremely effective repellant to females, especially any in teenage/20s years; they hate it. It is also huge and probably impossible for a careless and young driver to operate without hitting various things. So, though I love mine, I would say the one Buick not to get for a female teenager would be the Roadmaster wagon. Of course if the idea is that she use it only for limited purposes and not to carry other teens around town, the Roadmaster is the ideal method to keep her friends out of her car; humiliation is a strong emotion.
  7. Well that local dealer got the Lucerne brochures; the rack was jammed full when I stopped by this morning. Salesmen were busy selling red tag GMC SUVs though. Mid-level Northstar V-8 seems just about right, especially with slate & blue guts. The more I look the more I like the interior. Controls make sense and that is a clean, well designed insturment panel. I do not like front wheel drive nor a four door sedan, but the warranty is good. However will a bankrupt GM back the warranty? Seriously, can one risk spending so much money on a warrantied car that is sold by a company so very close to bankruptcy? Advise! I guess a lease is the way to get one. I like the car. The front end could look better; the headlights are too big and the grille is a bit too old fart Buick. But the rear 1/2 of the car rear looks great - very BMW like. The roofline, rear side windows and tail lights are perfection. I want one but don't trust GM. Still like my '94 Roadmaster wagon but I am quite sure this Lucerne would be a lot nicer every day driver. The Roadie has a lot of miles and a long expired warranty but it is still a well made rear wheel drive car and still has no creaks or squeaks. Would hate to get a new Lucerne and have it creaking after six months or so and I don't trust GM to make a car that won't creak. - Ranchero - liking it but very unsure and not trusting GM
  8. Today I inspected the one and only Lucerne our local Buick dealer has. This one was a six cylinder car; the salesman informed me that the Northstar Lucerne is not yet being made (?). Also not yet available were any sales brochures (is this a good way to introduce a new car?). The interior is the best part of the car. It is very well designed. This one had bucket seats with a console - very nice. There is a tach. The controls are well thought out. Also the rear legroom is amazing - like a BMW 7 series. The cruise control on that Dodge Charger is pure Mercedes. It is quite easy and logical to use when you drive the car daily. - Ranchero -
  9. Well my wife, for the first time since we've been married, noticed a Buick ad on TV and told me so. I have not seen it, but the subject is the heated windshield washer system in a Lucerne. This is amazing progress for a stylish, smart, professional woman to notice an advertisement for a Buick! I like the Lucerne a lot. The style - both inside and out - is great. I like the Northstar V-8. The interior looks wonderful; I like the easy to use, big controls. The colors are good. The new, longer warranty is quite welcome. I would prefer a coupe - a Riviera version about four inches shorter. I do not like a four door sedan. And I would prefer rear wheel drive. But I will not rule out the Lucerne despite these issues. I would not buy one as GM is simply too much of a financial risk for me to own a three or so year old used GM car, with still some warranty remaning, when I get tired of the car and want to trade on something else. I would consider the car on a good two or three lease deal, but I don't want to be stuck with a nice Buick with a year remaining on a warranty from a bankrupt GM. Interior colors could be better and have more variety. A dark brown, red or blue would be appreciated. Yet I like the car and would lease it if there was a deal. Sorry, but that is what GM has come to. Respectfully submitted - Ranchero
  10. Dave at Moon says "I'm more convinced it's because white people run those companies". Isn't that comment as racist the use of "Jap"? White people run Microsoft, E-Bay, Pepsico and Johnson & Johnson. Any problem with the white folks' management of those companies? Or do you just dislike white people? Sky King: No, maybe American companies can not take money back here from sales of cars in Japan however GM is doing so from Buicks made in Shanghai and sold in China. That is a little good news to go with the fleets of Boeings that are being sold to China. Clearly the problem with production of automobiles in America is not the American worker but rather it is the UAW. The non-union plants in the south ( making Japanese, Korean or German vehicles) are doing quite well and pay hourly rates very close to what the union factories in the more expensive north pay for UAW labor. However the southern plants do not have the burden of defined benefit retirement programs nor of retiree & retiree family health care benefits - generous giveaways cemented into the financial plan back in the times of Bel Airs, Galaxies and Star Chiefs The UAW/big three partnership was sealed decades ago. It was an experiment in European type social benefits (socialism, if you will) for America's then largest and most important industry. At that time, any weakness of GM and the American auto industry was not conceivable; a Volkswagen beetle was an insignificant bump on Harlow Curtice's rear. The concept (and the partners) have failed because of competition from nimbler, more efficient car makers - first foreign producers who nibbled away and now from Americans making cars for foreign owned companies. It is creative destruction. Consumers are well served; we now have better, safer, more durable, more reliable and more competitive cars. Non-union workers in the south have great new jobs that did not exist there for their parents. And investors in Toyota and Nissan thrive. Who loses are the union workers and the investors in GM and Ford. This is change and is to be expected with competition. Note also that there are no longer workers at nor companies with the names like "New York Central", "Eastern Air Lines", "Admiral" or "Bethlehem Steel". - Ranchero -
  11. Centurion - Great photos. These belong on the next book on automobile dealerships. I appreciate the turntable. I remember the Buick dealership on Piedmont in Atlanta. It had a turntable out on the corner. The last time I saw the place a new '82 Riviera convertible was roatating in the sun. Don't know if the turtable or dealership is still there, but your signage & dealership posts belong in some kind of archive. Thanks - Ranchero
  12. That is absolutely great stuff and thanks for posting those photos. I've never bought or even priced one, but I imagine those signs by now have appreciated by a much greater percentage than the Buick cars that were current when the signs were erected at Buick dealerships.
  13. I own a straight stock 1982 Riviera convertible. Is mine a modified car? GM built it for Buick (with a hardtop) in New Jersey and then shipped it to ASC in Lansing. ASC chopped off the roof, built a unique back seat, windshield header and convertible top (adapted later for '84 & '85 Eldorados) and then shiped the cars to Buick dealers. Buick sold them for 1982 to 1985 model years. Is my car a legitimate Buick or is it a modified car? What about the H/E (modified at Cincinnati) brand new Toronado or Ciera convertibles that were, unlike the Rivieras and Eldorados found in then current Buick and Cadillac catalogs, not advertised or supported by Oldsmobile? Get over it and complain about gas prices or something like that. I like customized Buicks.
  14. Norb - So what? Are you against capitalism? Are you offended by other corporations making "record profits"? What if Pfizer made record profits? What if Wal Mart or General Electric did so? What if somehow General Motors could make record profits, much less any profit ever again? Why are oil profits so offensive? They produce a product that is in demand, that has a limited and damaged supply system. They should earn profit always and record profit when their business is threatened by natural disaster, government regulation or populist and wacky sentiment. Oil extractors, refiners, distributors and retailers deserve profit - just like any other business. Finally my gasoline costs about as much per gallon as my milk. Think about the production and distribution process of the two. Gasoline involves much more investment to produce than that gallon of milk. Gasoline is a bargain. If you think oil companies are making record profits perhaps it is time for you to buy stock in Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, Conoco-Phillips, Valero, British Petroleum, etc. They are well run companies which produce, with great risk and investment, nice returns in dividends and capital gains for their owners. I own V-8s. I hate paying so much for fuel. But I understand it and am willing to accept it until: we get around to drilling in Alaska, the Gulf, the Rockies, off California and Florida; building new refineries (how about on closed military bases?); eliminating all the multiple fuel grade geographic requirements for enviro purposes; ending tax breaks for corn based fuel; eliminating state and federal fuel taxation. Riding my bicycle more and driving my V-8s less - Ranchero
  15. Dave@Moon: "Ranchero really meant it?" Of course I mean it. If you do not like the price of fuel then the smart thing to do is to drive a Prius, I guess. Or maybe ride a motorcycle in the summer (as I do)? Or how about one of those cute Vespas they sell in downtown Denver? Or, if you live in a big city you could ride the bus or tram or whatever serves your neighborhood. A consumer does not need to use V-8 Buicks. I like them & I certainly don't care what the price of fuel is when I go to the pump. Dave@Moon, I think you are silly to be such an enviro and consumer geek when the cost of the fuel has not increased as much as inflation and when the enviro concerns have all been addressed and diminished over the years. Though they look similar in profile, I would much prefer to drive my full sized Roadmaster Estate Wagon than your 5/8 scale Prius. I've got safety, good fuel mileage, fine performance, cheap insurance, great comfort and a bargain priced car. You spent $29K for outstanding fuel mileage, unproven (Toyota has a recall on the Prius) technology, no performance, no safety, unknown after warranty availability of complicated electronic parts, unknown after warranty repair cost and an even uglier car than my Roadmaster. I got a car and you got a weenie-mobile. I am willing to pay for fuel for a man's V-8; you are not. How does that Prius go up hills in Cincinnati? Very truly yours - Ranchero