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  1. Steve, Thanks very much for the information. Looks like something I want to pass along to our region members in the next newsletter. Do you know if there is any "official" statements published on the matter that can be referred to? I looked online but couldnt find any. Is this what the box looks like?
  2. We received our copy a couple days ago. Both Di and I were impressed with the full front and back cover photo. It shows the imagination and ingenuity of West who continues to provide a world class publication for AACA members. Thanks! Luckily for us, our postman only folds the magazine enough to fit in the mailbox and there are no creases or bends.
  3. John and I became friends years ago as John also lived in Harford County; and Chesapeake Region and Harford Region are neighbors. John was a friend of Harford Region and Harford Region members very much liked and respected him. John and I both served as President of our respective regions at the same time, as well as being newsletter editors and webmasters. We corresponded and talked a lot, bouncing ideas back and forth while working for our regions. I always admired how he could always be so calm, soft spoken, but always attentive, a great listener, and so intelligent and logical when he spoke. Unfortunately, John's passing was just before I was elected to the Board of the AACA Library & Research Center. He was most highly respected among the board for his dedication and hard work and I would have liked very much to have worked with him. I had the honor to be asked by West to prepare the write-up about John for Antique Automobile following John's passing. A lot of thought and memories went into that write-up and I have always hoped that it was good enough to portray John as the sensitive, caring, energetic, and wonderful person that he was. With all his work for his region, AACA and the Library, it would seem that John would have little time for anything else but he was a diverse man with many capabilities and interests as well as a dedicated family man. I was at the AACA Headquarters to help move the 1935 Ford Phaeton into the Library prior the day that Chesapeake Region stopped at the Library and presented the plaque in John's memory. It was great to see so many people there (many more than appears in the cropped photo ahown in Antique Automobile) to pay respect for such a great person. John is missed by many and will always remembered as a friend and overall great person.
  4. I've worked the last 20 years with the same company in the field of aircraft survivability. My job includes component, full up, and controlled damage testing, conducting vulnerability analysis on aircraft and aircraft engines, preparing methodologies, criticality analysis, and probability of failure estimates, program management, planning, and logistics for both fixed and rotary wing aircraft. I also develop computer geometric descriptions of aircraft in several different formats for use in analysis. My job has included in-field use of 3D spatial measurement systems for collecting detailed data points used in preparing computerized geometric models and reverse engineering using the point data obtained.
  5. Attached is a photo of an International based camper when it visited Bennetts Classics Museum during the recent Thunder Road Golden Anniversary Tour. The camper was restored by the Automotive Department of the Blue Ridge Community College in Flat Rock, NC. We first saw the camper in 2004 when the Southeastern Divisional Tour visited BRCC. It is a fully functional camper used for promoting the automotive department at BRCC. One its its most unique items is the full size porcelain tub hidden under the couch.
  6. Holy Chryslers Batman! Your last post was really an eye opener. We were touring around Asheville in the same group during the weekend...... and even ate dinner together on Saturday night..... and I had no idea that you and Moepar were the same person!!!! Slap me upside the head and call me clueless. The girls enjoyed riding in your Chrysler on Saturday night. The return trip home went smoothly with great weather and the top down most of the way.
  7. Moepar, We had three cars from Harford Region travel from Maryland to the Thunder Road Golden Anniversary Tour. Everyone in our group had fun and enjoyed the tour. Thanks to the GSMR for a fun weekend.
  8. TG, That will be a nice looking vehicle when you are finished. Attached is a photo from the Western Maryland Library showing Maryland's first motorized bookmobile that was put in service in 1912 to supply books t the isolated areas of Western Maryland. The very first bookmobile in Maryland was an enclosed buggy that went into service in 1905, and was pulled by two horses named Dandy and Black Beauty. The horse pulled bookmobile was used until 1912 when the first motorized unit was put into serivce. The information on the motorized bookmobile states: "In March of 1912 an IHC Autobuggy with body by Thomas White was delivered by the International Harvester Company. It had a specially constructed top with shelves for 300 books and storage room for four deposit station cases." Thought you might like to see it. The International was replaced in 1916 with a specially equipped Koehler bookmobile truck that could hold 500 books. The Koehler was replaced in 1921 with a Dodge business car that was lighter for the ladies to drive than the earlier vehicles. The Koehler was used until 1931. Other bookmobiles used in Western Maryland include: 1931 Dodge truck (1931 to 1940) 1950 Studebaker truck (1950 to 1957) 1957 GMC Truck (1957 to 1969) capacity for 2800 books 1969 International (1969 to 1985) 1985 two Thomas-built buses (1985 to 2004) 2004 Bluebird bus (2004 to present) capacity for 4000 books and 4 computer workstations.
  9. Despite the cost, you may still want to use a reputible auto transport company. They are licensed and bonded for such loads and many will deliver to your door. There are auto transport companies that are less than reputible and a number of horror stories have been posted over the years on this forum on such experiences, so you need to check out the company's reputation before you one. You could hire a private unlicensed, unbonded person with a trailer willing to haul it for a cheaper amount but then you'd likely be stuck if any damage happens to the car on the way. The following is one way that a friend of mine had a car transported cross country. A couple years ago, my friend living in Lancaster, Pa needed to economically ship a non-running, 1926 Pontiac coupe from Washington state to Pa. After much consideration, including the idea of hiring an auto hauler and the idea of us driving out to get it, he contacted an Amish buggy builder in the area. The Amish buggy builder regularly shipped buggies to the west coast in a tractor and trailer. A lot of times, the trailer was only partially full on the return trip with buggies being sent to the shop for repair. It turned out that the truck normally made a delivery within a couple hundred miles from where the Pontaic was and the driver agreed to go and pickup the Pontiac and deliver it to Lancaster for about 1/2 of what most auto haulers charge for cross county delivery. One thing that had to be overcome was loading the non-running car from a private residence up into the trailer. A rollback was hired to go to the house and the car was winched onto the rollback, which raised the car high enough to push it into the rear of the trailer. Less than a week later, the car was delivered at the Amish buggy shop where it was unloaded using the facility's loading dock. The method worked out great for my friend but there are no guarantees that such an alternative method would always be successful. My friend was lucky enough to have a car delivered with no hassle and very low coast. I only posted it because I wanted to share an example of an alternative means of delivery that worked in this particular instance.
  10. The auction for the beautiful, one owner 1935 Ford Phaeton by the AACA Library & Research Center has begun. See the auction page here:
  11. Moody River.... by Pat Boone..... oh well ....... I guess thats what I get for being four weeks early
  12. Whats happening in Hummelstown this weekend?
  13. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ron Green</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and I have a small dent and a cracked headlight to prove it. </div></div> Ron, All that open space in those locks that can accomodate big ships..... and you wrecked your lil Amphi???? The pics do look like a fun time. How many feet did you have to drop.. and how long did it take to get there? When looking at the fourth pic... the Amphi's looked so small in the that big lock, the first thought that came to me was that it looked like a view of the paddle boat ride at an amusement park.
  14. For an <span style="font-style: italic">original</span> 1946 Hudson Commodore 4 door sedan, the current NADA online value guide ( estimates the value at: Low Retail - $4,750 Average Retail - $7,125
  15. Yep.. definately a great story. And he got a free restoration in the proccess! it's good to hear a happy ending to the saga. About 20 years ago, a friend and I went to West Virginia to see about a 1955 Chevrolet sedan for sale. My friend ended up buying it and it appeared to have a valid title. However, my friend owned an auto repair center and drove a company truck most of the time, so he didn't bother to register and tag the 55. Whenever the rare occasion he drove it on the weekend he would put one of his dealer tags on the car. After a couple years, he decided to sell the 55 because he hardly ever drove it. When the new owner went to register it, the state police got involved as the 55 appeared to be one that had been stolen 13 years before in another state. Don't know whatever became of the car.
  16. The Tulsarama website has photos of the Plymouth and time capsule items at:
  17. Terri, The following URL is the current NADA online value guide for 1937 Graham models: It lists the following models: 116 120 Custom 80 Crusader 85 Crusader 95 Cavalier Select the model you have and it will take you to a page where you can select any optional equipment listed that the car has. Then click on the "Get Used Value" button and it will give you an estimated Low Retail, Average Retail and High Retail value. Hope this helps.
  18. More photos of the AACA Library & Research Center's 1935 Ford Phaeton are available on the L&RC web site at: I can vouch for Steve's comments that this is a great car. Somebody will be a very happy owner. It was a joy to help with getting it detailed and in the L&RC lobby.
  19. This was the first time I had seen the 1957 article written prior to the event. It was also the first I had seen a mention of a Cosmolene type preservative other then the postings made here. The site refers only to the strylene wrap, which is like wrapping it in heavy Saran Wrap. I am wondering if they actually did coat the car as planned in the article, because it looks awfully clean in the photos just before and as it is being lowered into the vault.
  20. The following URL gives a short but interesting history on the evolution of the American stop sign from its original white and black design to the modern red octagon:
  21. you can remember the location of vendors in the Blue Field at Fall Hershey... ...the original Blue Field!
  22. All that time that I was there.. and I didn't realize who that fella was! <img src="" alt="" /> Sorry about that Doug.
  23. BruceW

    65 Starfire

    A quick look at the current online NADA collector car guide found the following: 1965 Oldsmobile Starfire 320/260hp V8 engine, 4 speed transmission Low Retail - $8,481 Average Retail - $19,320 High Retail - $29,900 320/315hp V8 engine, 4 speed transmission Low Retail - $9,219 Average Retail - $21,000 High Retail - $32,500 425/360hp engine, 4 speed transmission Low Retail - $8,481 Average Retail - $19,320 High Retail - $29,900 425/370hp engine, 4 speed transmission Low Retail - $8,850 Average Retail - $20,160 High Retail - $31,200 6 cylinder engine, 4 speed transmission Low Retail - $7,006 Average Retail - $15,960 High Retail - $24,700 According to the guide, the 4 speed added 5% to the base price. The 260hp v8 added 10%, 315hp engine added 20%, 360hp engine added 10% and the 370hp engine added 15% (these percentages are reflected in the above value calculations obtained from the online guide). A/C would add another 5% to each base value. Not sure how they reflect the actual market. NADA's appraisel criteria is listed below: Low Retail Value This vehicle would be in mechanically functional condition, needing only minor reconditioning. The exterior paint, trim, and interior would show normal wear, needing only minor reconditioning. May also be a deteriorated restoration or a very poor amateur restoration. Most usable "as-is". Some of the vehicles in this publication could be considered "Daily Drivers" and are not valued as a classic vehicle. When determining a value for a daily driver, it is recommended that the subscriber use the low retail value. Note: This value does not represent a "parts car". Average Retail Value This vehicle would be in good condition overall. It could be an older restoration or a well-maintained original vehicle. Completely operable. The exterior paint, trim, and mechanics are presentable and serviceable inside and out. A "20-footer". High Retail Value This vehicle would be in excellent condition overall. It could be a completely restored or an extremely well maintained original vehicle showing very minimal wear. The exterior paint, trim, and mechanics are not in need of reconditioning. The interior would be in excellent condition. Note: This value does not represent a "100 Point" or "# 1" vehicle *. * "100 Point" or "# 1" vehicle is not driven. It would generally be in a museum or transported in an enclosed trailer to concourse judging and car shows. This type of car would be stored in a climate-regulated facility. Hope this helps.
  24. We have attended Shenandoah Region's meet pretty much every year for the past 15 years. During the past 10 years, we have attended with our 1931 Ford but couldn't make it this year. My mom and dad did attend this year's show in their 1949 Plymouth. They said there was some rain sprinkles when they arrived about 9:00am but it apparently didn't last. They mentioned that they thought there was a smaller attendance this year than in past years. I figure that the National Spring Meet in New Bern probably affected the turnout. They mentioned there were some new roads in the park and different traffic patterns used this year. All in all it sounded like yet another great show put on by the Shenandoah Region. I heard next year is thier 50th annual show and we plan on attending again.
  25. Jo, Thats a really nice looking car, even under all the dust. Its hard to find a 33 Ford that hasn't been turned into a rod. There are so few originals sold that its difficult to see a trend. It appears from the picture to be a 2 passenger, five window business coupe. The limited amount of information I have seen on 33 coupes sold, I would have guessed in the 40-55K range for an original, BUT the information I have is very limited and, since the cars cannot be physically compared, I may be off quite a bit. I checked the current online NADA guide for a 1933 Ford Five Window Coupe at Since I wasn't completely positive that it was a 2 passenger model, I checked values for different five window coupe models listed. I don't know how the values relect the real world. As Roger mentioned, the real price depends on the market. Model 40 2 Passenger Five Window Coupe Low Retail - $21,000 Average retail - $38,700 High retail - $57,400. Model 40 2 Passenger Deluxe Five Window Coupe Low Retail - $22,100 Average retail - $40,700 High retail - $60,500. Model 40 2-4 Passenger Five Window Coupe Low Retail - $21,600 Average retail - $39,900 High retail - $59,300. Model 40 2-4 Passenger Deluxe Five Window Coupe Low Retail - $22,800 Average retail - $41,800 High retail - $62,300. For the potential money the car may bring, I suggest that you get an appraisal on the car from a reputable,professional appraiser. Hope this helps