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Hello All, I some how got busy and a year went by. I did get the head repaired by lockstitch . Great guys. it was cost $2200 but they did a great job. I also took the engine block to DK at Kenmoth Engine company in Sacramento. He cleaned up the cylinders and sourced some +.010 rings, ground the valves and seats. I reassembled the engine, replaced the gaskets on the transmission and finally installed the engine in the truck frame. I will upload some photos later when I figure out how to upload HEIC files from my Mac Book. My current issue is a badly cooroded wheel brake master cylinder barrel. Any body have a source for new cylinders? WFD

Kurtruk, Correct. Volunteered for Williams Fire for 23 years and then volunteered to restore this truck that was disassembled 18 years ago. Rex

Kurtruk, Thanks for the Locknstitch lead. I delivered the head to them. Upon inspection they found 31 inches of cracks to repair. They also say they are convinced they will be able repair the head adequately. It is not cheap however. Thanks again to all who have shared info. Rex

Here are images of the cylinder head. The water jacket has been repaired with a weld and JB weld over the top. It appears to have held up but was last run 15+ years ago. My first choice is to find an undamaged head. My second choice would be to have this head repaired properly. Kurtruk mentioned a firm in Turlock Ca for this work. Do you have the name? Thanks All. Wishing all a happy new year

Fascinating! I am learning more than I ever thought I would about this old truck.

The wheel base is 165” upon further inspection of the head, I found a date cast on the head of 11/19/28.

I Tracked down the California Registration for the fire truck. Registration issued in 1979 indicates first sold in 1929 vehicle ID GB24097 which happens to be the number stamped on the side of the engine under the exhaust ports. I looked more closely at the frame for stamped numbers. Using very good light source from different angles, I can make out that numbers may have been stamped there but not enough left to see. The engine looks to be in good enough shape for rebuilding. The cylinder head is cracked along the water jacket. It does not appear to be broken internally to affect the combustion chambers. I would prefer using an unbroken head if I can locate one. The head cylinders look like they will clean up with a hone. I plan on disassembling the engine for inspection and clean up at the very least. I was counting on having this engine inspected and repaired as necessary so all I would do is frame body and assembly but it looks like I may be in for an engine rebuild as well.

I will run that down. Thanks for the picture of the rear plate. Is the Dodge Bothers just painted on the playe or stamped/ etched?

I am not able to find any numbers stamped on the frame. There is what appears to be a large data plate riveted to the rearmost cross member but it has no data marks. The frame has been sandblasted but I would expect to see some evidence of numbers. I hav take a very close look. I just got home from retrieving the engine. I will examine the engine for numbers in the morning and report.

Stakeside. The truck in your photos is indeed the same truck I am working on. You have better photos of the truck before it was disassembled 15-20 years ago than I do. Here are photos of the current state and how we got here. These are not in order as I am not clever enough to edit this post.

Kurtruk. I have checked with John at BigMmotors. He could not help but gave me a lead that did not pan out. Nice guy and seems to know his business well.

NearchoclatetowN How would you rate the condition of your engine? As soon as I am able, I will take pictures of the engine for comparison.

Thanks. I understand this engine was used in the a Desota variant also? It is not important for me to find the exact engine model. This is not a numbers matching resto but rather a parade vehicle and historic display at the fire department. I want a period engine installation with out major modification.

Exhaust exits manifold closer to the clutch. Block casting number 16529 head casting number A514270 Located in Williams Ca. 60 miles north of Sacramento. I posted on the Dodge truck area. Thanks Rex

Hello all, I am new to this forum. I am restoring a 1929 Dodge Brothers fire engine for the Williams Fire Department. This engine was one of the first line fire engines use in the department and I am restoring it as a parade vehicle and mascot for the department. The engine is in pretty bad shape with a cracked head. A local engine shop has had it for over 3 years with promises to fix it. they had to cut the head bolts in order to remove the head. I am hoping to find a running or repairable replacement engine or a good head. I do not have immediate access to the engine and do not even know much about the engine or variants possibly used by Dodge in 1929. I am hoping to talk to someone who has experience with vintage Dodge trucks and sourcing parts. I restore airplanes in my day job and have very limited experience with 1920s trucks. I did a frame off resto on a 1967 Camaro in 2010. That was an education1 Any leads too point me to resources would be very much appreciated. I will share photos of the project if there is any interest. Thanks, Rex

Hello all, I am new to this forum. I am restoring a 1929 Dodge Brothers fire engine for the Williams Fire Department. This engine was one of the first line fire engines use in the department and I am restoring it as a parade vehicle and mascot for the department. The engine is in pretty bad shape with a cracked head. A local engine shop has had it for over 3 years with promises to fix it. they had to cut the head bolts in order to remove the head. I am hoping to find a running or repairable replacement engine or a good head. I do not have immediate access to the engine and do not even know much about the engine or variants possibly used by Dodge in 1929. I am hoping to talk to someone who has experience with vintage Dodge trucks and sourcing parts. I restore airplanes in my day job and have very limited experience with 1920s trucks. I did a frame off resto on a 1967 Camaro in 2010. That was an education1 Any leads too point me to resources would be very much appreciated. I will share photos of the project if there is any interest. Thanks, Rex