thanks for all that have put their in put to my radio problem its real good info got a lot more to think about before i go ahead and delve into it. I have opened up the radio and it looks like it has never been out of the car looks like some of the tube are black on the top but my main concern was what do i need to do to get it working and you all have given me that much and more about the antenna. Thanks all this is great place to ask