Gary V

Yes, thanks. That is the sales catalog with the grainy photo I mentioned. I have an original, but still hard to make out the engraving.

Joh348: My shop manual is offsite. I will check that this week, thanks for the suggestion ! PAV8427: Thanks. Those listings at least establish that Muncie was a transmission option. I would like to believe that would be sufficient to a judge that the shift lever was part of the RPO (option). I'm also wondering if the following would satisfy any future judges questions: 1) I have my original warranty Protect-O-Plate. On it is imprinted, among other items, the owners name and address (us) and vehicle VIN and the code for transmission installed at the factory. In this case, the code is "P9D19". 2) On Page 6, General-3 of the "gm-heritage-archive/vehicle-information-kits/Chevelle/1969-Chevrolet-Chevelle.pdf" document from the GM Heritage Center website (which is a GM site, therefore "factory"), is the following breakdown of the "Serial Number and Identification" of transmissions: Source Designation P = Muncie Model Year 9 = 1969 Production Month D = April Production Day 19 = 19 So this would confirm, with two sources of factory documentation, that a Muncie was installed in my car from the factory. I have an original Chevelle sales catalog with a grainy photo of the shift lever, where the engraving is just about impossible to discern, unless you know what you're looking for. I'd like to think these two items would satisfy a judge questioning the shifter. Gary

Some shots before loading up for Saratoga Nationals in June

BTW, to one and all.....I sincerely appreciate ALL of the replies, suggestions and leads. I was surprised at the amount of discussion this topic generated. Good to know there are so many out there familiar with this.

The shifter handle wasn't an option. The transmission option ordered (automatic, M20, M21, M22 4 speeds, 3 speed) had the shifter handle as part of the whole option. (At least that was true for 1969).

The issue, according to the lead on the judging team evaluating my car, was the word (engraving/stamping) "Muncie". I guess, since they didn't know about Muncie at all, and it being Chevy's transmission builder, perhaps they must have thought "Muncie" was an aftermarket item and engraved as such.

Transmission is fully restored, exterior is perfect. Will do that.

I have 2/3'rds of the build sheet, nothing on it to indicate "Muncie". Yes, all of the untouched (meaning not replaced with a Hurst shifter) ones I've seen over the years all had "Muncie" engraved on it. There's a ton of aftermarket references (repro shift handles) but of course, those aren't "factory" documentation. Sigh.

Saturday at Hershey we showed our recently restored 1969 Malibu 350/300 4 speed. I ordered the car new, and it is done to perfection, all correct. A judge questioned the "Muncie" engraving (factory of course) on my bench seat 4 speed shift handle. My original window sticker only shows M20 4 speed, no mention of "Muncie", likewise, all my other factory documentation only shows the option code "(M20, 4 speed wide ratio"). None of the judges on the team knew that Muncie was GM's transmission division, but after going through the other extensive, but not productive documentation (for this issue), we were given the benefit of the doubt We still got our Senior, but was advised to have documentation for the future, just in case. I have since found a grainy sales catalog picture of a "Muncie" engraved shift lever, but it is difficult to make out the word. I've searched online in the GM Parts Wiki but for that shift handle, there is no mention of "Muncie", just that it is for a 4 speed, bench seat. "Muncie" is all over the parts catalog, for gears, bearings, etc, but not a shifter handle. Can anyone point me to something better the judges will accept that I can use if this comes up again ? Thank you in advance, Gary

Interesting. I stayed there also, checked in late Friday afternoon. Prepaid earlier in the week, but also had to give card at check in. Got a text Fraud Alert from Chase 2 hours later questioning a small charge, replied NO that it wasn't mine, and card was suspended and a new one issued. Something fishy going on at the front desk ?

Not sure about disassembly. I haven't seen it and he doesn't know much about the switch etc., which is why I posted here. Anyone familiar with these switches ?

A friends 1940 Buick had a hard/no start issue while at his mechanics shop. Mechanic tested the ignition switch, found 6.6 volts going in, 3.8 and less coming out to the coil. He installed a bypass switch as a temporary fix, car started right up. He's having zero success locating an ignition switch. Anyone know who might have one, or, if there is an interchange that would work with that lock cylinder ? Thanks, Viz

Will do, thank you !!

A friends 1940 Buick had a hard/no start issue while at his mechanics shop. Mechanic tested the ignition switch, found 6.6 volts going in, 3.8 and less coming out to the coil. He installed a bypass switch as a temporary fix, car started right up. He's having zero success locating an ignition switch. Anyone know who might have one, or, if there is an interchange that would work with that lock cylinder ? Thanks, Viz

Cutlasguy, I like what you did. My reluctance to mounting the badge on my grille is twofold. One, the fragile nature of the thin plastic horizontal slates (they fracture way too easily) and two, anything up against the slats eventually removes the painted finish. You've given me an idea though for a standoff type of mount fed through the slats but not against the grille.

Thanks to both of you. See you at Hershey.

While I believe this mounting is acceptable for judging, can I get a confirmation from those more knowledgeable ? Thank you !

That's very true. I do wonder though why newspapers and other print/online publications don't appear to be as vulnerable then. All require secure sign in's, as does AACA.

In a nutshell Bob, I was told by HQ that the current issue of the magazine is never made available online until the "next" print issue is published. So, you can't read the current issue online. That's it. Gary

I understand your comment, but non members cannot, as far as I have been able to determine, access the digital version. You have to sign in as a member to get to the link. So is it not already secure ?

I respectfully pose the following question to those in positions of leadership at AACA. My apologies if it may have been answered in the past, but I was not able to find anything relevant. It is my understanding that the current print issue of Antique Automobile had some delays at the printer/publisher. Since it is now approximately 3 weeks since it's normal arrival date, I presume the cause of the delay was not trivial. None the less, I anxiously await its arrival, as I do for every issue. My question pertains to the digital issue. I am aware that the online digital issue is always "one issue prior" to the current, print issue. Quite honestly, I am a bit perplexed by this. All of the print/digital subscriptions that I have, automotive related and otherwise, make their current digital issue available when the print issue is released. Why is this not the procedure for Antique Automobile ? If it is due to lengthy processing times to prepare a digital version, I could understand, but in today's printing world, digital is normally the source for the final printed version, so in theory, it should be available at the same time the print issue receives final approval for mailing. If it, on the other hand, is AACA policy not to have the current issue available for members online , again, I respectfully have to ask, why ? If access to the digital version is only available to members, not the general public (at least as far as I can determine), "unauthorized access" can't be the reason. With the current state of USPS delays in mail delivery, it would seem only logical to provide access to the current, digital version to members when the printed version is released. If it takes time to prepare the digital version, could it not at least be made available at sometime during the 2 month span between printed issues ? Thank you for the opportunity to present my concern. I look forward to your reply. Gary