sorry for delay. car is at sons house. you were both right. when I pulled them out i could see sealent bottom but so much top. replace all but one. guess what that one leaked later, replaced. thank you for your help. i only need to place tie rods on and place fork in bell housing, then it time to clean the car body. again to you and JFranklin, who agreed with you. i see you are in oregon, have you been getting a lot of rain like washington? hope everything good.