John Jacques

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  1. PROBLEM SOLVED!!! Before revealing the cure, I will start off by telling you what was the cause of why the distributor would not drop that 3/8" to seat properly. Previously, I mentioned that the distributor was originally removed to prime the oil pump and reinstalled without out any problems. Well, after checking out You Tube regarding priming the oil pump and finding one video that used a battery operated screw gun with a flat screwdriver tip to fit in the oil pump shaft, I tried that. It worked very well (better than what I tried prior to rotate the oil pump) BUT, due to the poor fit of the screwdriver tip, it caused the slot in the oil pump shaft to spread wider and not allowing the distributor shaft gear to drop into the oil pump shaft. I then took a 1/2" ID hardened tube, tapered the inside edge (allowing it to go over the distorted end of the oil pump shaft) and gently tapped it down to squeeze the OD dimension of the oil pump shaft into its' original size. BINGO!!, the distributor fell into position like it should. LESSON LEARNED! Again, I want to thank everyone for all of your suggestions, Jakes
  2. Put this project on the back burner for now, as I have had many mechanic attempt to install this distributor with no success. All were stumped, and had no definite answers. Attempts to push down on the distributor while rotating the engine were also done. Just to let every know, I still have the problem. If I ever find the cure (which I will), I'll certainly let you know. Thanks again for all of your suggestions. Jakes
  3. Thanks, but no broken or damages to shafts.
  4. Thanks again to everyone who has responded. Here's my latest developments: Had a buddy apply slight downward pressure on the distributor while I very slowly turned the crankshaft by hand. Resulting in no distributor dropping in place. Then I removed the distributor gear and set it on the oil pump shaft. What I found out was that the top of the distributor gear meshed low on the cam gear (close to center). My thinking now is that the oil pump shaft somehow dropped deeper in the oil pump. This new thinking of mine could explain why the distributor pin is not engaged in the oil pump shaft, rather just resting on top of the oil pump shaft. See photo below. What do you think?
  5. Tried sending an addition photo of distributor but not allowed me to send.
  6. Paul, Dale, James, thanks, you all have good idea's, that got me thinking. Perhaps what James stated that it wasn't until he started his engine is when his distributor dropped. Well maybe (and from how my distributor stops dropping short of seating ) the distributor gear and the cam gear just aren't lined up correctly. I'm not going to start the engine, but I will slowing hand crank the engine and give the two gears a chance to mesh correctly. Keep your fingers crossed for me. Dale attached are the photos you requested. Thanks, Jakes photo 1 - oil pump shaft photo2 - tape on top of oil pump shaft -3" photo 3- tape in slot of oil pump - 3-1/2"
  7. James, I really do appreciate your thoughts and what you discovered was the problem with your 1935 Auburn., and wish that was my case here. This Buick engine's set up is different from your Auburn. No type of shaft adjustment on this Buick. It would be great to find someone in my area (Detroit) with this engine to compare too. Thanks, Jakes
  8. Hi Ben, thanks for your response. Yes, this is the same distributor, and the correct one for this engine (Delco 663Y), the only distributor that I have. I, and other people that attempted to install this distributor are saying the same thing "WHY"! No modification were made, this is 100% original.
  9. Thanks Mike for the thought. That was my thinking also. As mentioned, with the distributor out I checked the oil pump shaft for play. There was no play up/down/sideways and the oil pump was producing pressure to lube the top end on the motor. As far as measuring the distances in relationship to the matching up of the shaft and the distributor, I also did that. All seems to be correct, so my question is "Why is there that 3/8" preventing the distributor from seating". Mystery!!! Wish I had a diagram of the working inner parts of the oil pump. Perhaps that might shed some light on this subject. Thanks again!!
  10. I purchased this car from a gentleman who had been restoring it for nearly 30 years, unfortunately he passed away. That said , he had had the engine completely rebuilt and there was no oil in it. I removed the distributor to prime the oil pump. Installing distributors is nothing new to me as I have done it many, many times in the past. There is zero debris in the slot, nothing to prevent it from seating. Thanks for all of your thoughts and comments. Who knows maybe someone out there might know the cure. Thanks again, Jakes.
  11. This is definitely getting to me. The distributor shaft does fall into the oil pump shaft, but I do not know why it doesn't drop all the way down. nothing damaged in the distributor or oil pump shaft to prevent it from dropping all the way down. Yes, the distributor can be installed 180 degrees off. I have try positioning it tooth by tooth and alway 3/8" shy of seating. As mentioned earlier, I have had this distributor in and out a few times without any problems.
  12. Had three other car guys try to install this distributor without success. Even with the distributor installed 3/8" from being seated, when the engine is rolled over by hand and the rotor turns (like it should), it still doesn't seat. With the distributor out, the oil pump is pumping oil up and to each rocker. If it wasn't pumping then I might suspect the oil pump. Oh yeah, and when I had the distributor out, the oil pump shaft did not wobble sideways or up/down. I'm stumped!! Jakes
  13. I am aware that the drive tang must be in alignment with the oil pump shaft. I have inserted the distributor to where the tang falls into the oil pump shaft and the distributor shaft will not move (by hand), but like I mentioned, its about 3/8" from seating. I'm able to raise the distributor just enough out so that the tang is out of the oil pump shaft then I can rotate the shaft slightly. Any position that the distributor is installed it always fall short by 3/8" from being correctly installed. I set the timing (on the flywheel) at "Advanced" and made sure #3 exhaust valve started to open prior to dropping in the distributor to #1 plug wire. I am not that familiar with this straight 8 motor and wondering if there is something I'm missing.
  14. Good Morning to all, I am a new member to this forum and am in need of HELP. The question I have may sound like it's being asked by someone that is inexperienced in auto repairs which I am not, but on the other hand, I am in no way an expert. Here's my question, I am having difficulties in installing a distributor in my 1937 Buick 46S. I previously have removed, then reinstalled the distributor a number of times successfully, but now all of a sudden I can't seem to have it fall into the correct position. It does drop but not all the way, stopping about 3/8" from its final resting position. Anybody out there with a cure to my sudden stupidity? Thanks, Jakes