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I believe I read that to bring a car into the Hershey car corral it must be in original condition. No hotrods or custom modified.
My vehicle was modified back in 1937. Back when they converted cars into tow vehicles. My title is 1932 Buick sedan model 97 but it is modified.
Can I still bring it in the car corral?Tony
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Some of you Buick guys and girls are familiar with my 1932. In the past someone reached out to me, after searching newspapers, and provided me an ad associated with my Buick (Johnnies Garage Tow Truck) it was notification that Johnnies Garage became an Inspection Station. (#961)
Recently I became aware of a family name Markle. I believe I have crossed this name on my earlier searches to find out who "Johnny" was. I always wondered how a reasonably expensive Model 97 Buick new in 1932 could become a tow truck by 1937.
Anyway to the point. The Markle Family was associated with Hazleton Pa in the 20's , 30's and 40's. Yet I can find no historical photos of the area or historical events involving the Markle family at that time. Many times newspapers print articles that may have pictures in that era.
Any investigatory assistance would be greatly appreciated. Any pictures of a 1932 Model 97 sitting in the Markle driveway would be fantastic. You know thats a joke right ?
Tony
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Ya know ....you guys are great. I get pics even before I asked. I didn't ask because I hate to impose. I now see why I thought a rectangle box as it is just a cover. I have already installed a headlight switch in a pre-existing hole in the dash. That part on ebay is not for my vehicle in the sense I would not buy a NOS part that someone can use on a more original vehicle. All my lights work just not off the steering wheel controls.
But I do appreciate all the info.
Thanks again
Tony
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18 hours ago, 32buick67 said:
I appreciate the heads up on that unit. It does not seem to be like the one that came off. Unfortunately I junked the original because it seemed too whipped to salvage AND back when I did not know better, I assumed they would be available.
I thought mine was more of a rectangle box.
Tony
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The electrical switch box that is operated by the steering wheel controls.
Not sure what years or series are the same.
Thanks
Tony
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Did this quick so if you need more info let me know.
Tony
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20 hours ago, BuickTom87 said:
Thank you at one point we’re you selling your 32 Buick tow truck ?
Yes , I guess I go back and forth. On one hand it has great memories and on the other I want to get space in the garage to make new ones. Since it is dependable and fires up every time I have been enjoying it. If I have to go to the market, post office, diner, ice cream joint or local meet I just jump in an go.
It will never be much more than a unique and historical modification of a 1932 97. The historical of course is local and I am not referring to our preservation of it but the efforts of the original modifier "Johnny". Those were probably rough times. Still needs work...back window, wipers, interior work, horns, probably should find a hand crank. So yep I'll part with it , for a fair price.
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I can appreciate those efforts.
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12 minutes ago, BuickTom87 said:
Little by little the car is opening up. Yesterday after changing the wires cap and Condenser took it out for a ride it seemed to be a bit stronger and smoother. I guess by changing the oil and tune up kit as well as driving it for 5 days straight cruising at 50 it cleaned and opened up the motor.
adjusted the carburetor a tad , by using the guide from the marvel guide . As I was driving it I started to mess with the choke going up hill and it accelerated harder . I got the car up to 65-75 mph . The car barely smoked at all.
I’m guessing it has something to do with the choke sticking to make it seem as if it’s hesitating.
65 - 75 MPH you have more guts than I do. I'm running on the compact spare tires from a Lexus RX350. They are new and can carry the load but are smaller diameter by a couple inches, so I worry about RPMs. BUT they are only 100 bucks.
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Do you notice any significant change as you adjust the timing at 45mph? I notice quite a difference on mine. Please consider I never drove one in original condition. Mine did not run when I got it. Decked block, decked head, bored out cylinders, thin head gasket, custom grind on the cam and an adapted 2 barrel carb may make a difference with mine. I run much more advanced timing. I have nothing to compare to but I rarely use first gear and rarely need to downshift to second unless I'm stopping. I get a bit nervous running 55mph+ because I'm not sure my RPM. At 20mph , if I hit it and advance my timing it will pull hard til I get scared. My last though and this happened to me. I had one set of points grounding out. The motor ran smooth as one set runs every other cylinder. On my first drive in the car I was only running on 4 cylinders and it ran well. Then when I got back to the garage I could smell raw gas. Started moving my timing light sensor wire to wire and realized every other was not firing. Found the problem, small nylon washer fixed it, and there came the power.
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I think 32 - 90 series at least the one on the fender.
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This car originally had a Landau half vinyl top. My understanding is that similar years had full vinyl tops. I need the trim at the bottom of the sail panels (C pillars) and that wrap around between the back window trim and trunk lid. I need the ones for a full top because I believe they are different from the Landau. Correct me if I am wrong.
Tony
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I did not get a chance to talk with the owner so I have blocked out the phone number until I get his permission to show it.
Tony
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Andy J
Not mine but if you are interested in another Pontiac Chieftian there is one for sale by me. I think about your year. Looks complete but may be a better parts car than one to restore. I believe the price would be very very reasonable. Not buried in mud or grass either. Let me know and I will post a picture. Oh heck Ill walk down and take one anyway and post it. Be back in a jiffy.
Tony
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Hello RAH
I have the armature out and had it sent out to be rewound. After getting it back I wanted to test it before installing. i am hoping to call these parts by their correct terms just to be clear.
1. The shaft is only the metal axis everything mounts.
2. The Stack is the larger diameter part on the shaft that holds the winding on what I believe is called the teeth.
3. The commutator is the part at which the brushes ride.
I do not have continuity between the commutator and stack or shaft.
I do however have continuity from the stack teeth to the shaft. I have been told that is of no consequence and is fine.
I am assuming it is fine since the windings and commutator are insulated from these parts.
Tony
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Just wondering what ever happened to my 41 Buick I had sold about 35 years ago.
Back then it was bright yellow , white leather interior, inline 8 with 2 deuces, white wagon wheels, they were all the go back then, yellow and white checkerboard interior panels. Never had the bumpers i think I used leaf springs for bumpers. Think it made it to North or South Carolina.
Sound familiar to anyone?
Tony
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Does anyone know if the 940 T1 or equivalent generator armature should show continuity between the shaft and the stack teeth? The commutator is insulated from the shaft in a single and double insulated armature but I want to know if the stack should be insulated from the shaft (Double Insulated) on a 940 T
Thanks in advance
Tony
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My parts are back and it is definitely a 20 tooth for the 1932 940 T1. As my earlier image from the 32 Spec and Adj. book indicates I believe 50 series will have the 18 tooth gear and 60 thru 90 will have the 20 tooth. Although other generators may work for charging they will not keep time without the correct gear as the rotation goes off about 5 degrees every rotation with the wrong gear.
I'm still on the hunt for a 662 Dist an "B" if available but thanks to Peter I think any 660 or 661 or 662 can work.
Tony
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On 7/16/2022 at 11:31 AM, 32buick67 said:
Adding to the confusion...
While the 956B(1933-60) gear on my car has the same dimensions at the 940T (1932-60) gear, the tooth count is different.
I found the old photo of when I replaced the timing gear.
Also, the Buick shop manual (page 171) requires a 1.5:1 ratio between the crank gear and generator gear.
To get a 1.5:1 ratio for the 32-60 series:
- crank gear = 30 teeth
- cam gear = 60 teeth
- generator gear = 20 teeth
Bottom line, the 18 tooth gear on my 940T generator is incorrect for the 32-60 series.
Another mystery why the incorrect gear was installed on the generator...
Correct = 20 tooth generator gear
The 1931-1933 series 60 generators seem to have a lot of interchange, and are all likely 20 tooth gears for at least the 60 series, but we will need positive proof as to whether this is the case.
If I can make some time later, I will scour the Buick parts book to see if there are any references or part numbers for the gears.
Looking through all of my other manuals, I get the impression the generator drive gear was purchased and inventoried direct by Buick for factory stock, and not provided as an assembly by AC Delco or other subassembly supplier.
Mario
I believe your math is correct because it is exactly what I got. Since the worm gear to distributor shaft gear is 3 : 1 it needs a 20 tooth gear meshed with the 60 tooth cam. My Buick sat for over 35 years at the location I found it. All indications show it had the original generator and I am sure it is a 32 because that is on the original tag and all numbers match even the 662 -B distributor. My original gen is a 940 T1. My armature and gear are in transit and I should have them tomorrow. Once I have it back in hand I will verify it is a 20 tooth but I am already sure it had to be for correct timing. Here is my orig. tag.
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Pete , are sure about that 1932 90 gear size?
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17 hours ago, Peter R. said:
Tony, I found a total of four different Buick generators:
940-F (1928 115, 120 & 128)
940-T3 (1931-32 8-50)
956-B2 (1933 8-60, 8-80 & 8-90)
956-B3 (1933 8-50)
I assume Buick used two different gears:
1. 2-7/16“ OD, 1-1/8“ Wide, 18 teeth, DP9
2. 2-1/2“ OD, 1-1/4“ Wide, 20 teeth, DP10
A DP10 tooth is smaller than a DP9 tooth.
Looks like ypur „940-T“ is actually a 940-T3 that came off of a 1931-32 Buick Series 50.
Now when you take your 940-T generator and install a 2-1/2“ DP10 gear with 20 teeth on it together with a 662-B distributor, you will get a perfect 940-T2 generator that suits your 1932 8-90, I‘d say.
Some how i must have scrolled right past this but I believe you are correct.
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10 hours ago, 32buick67 said:
Peter,
Your catalog is mind-blowing!
Its amazing to me how much info you have, unreal and persistently impressive...
Tony,
I am currently running a 33 generator in my 32 (over 20 years, including the prior owner), and I measured the drive gears, and the 33 and 32 gears are the same as they interface with the helical fiber cam gear.
The 956B (33-60) and 940T (32-60) generator gears are the same spec.
I don't know if other years will mate interchange, but its likely at least 1931 is probably a valid interchange year.
At some point us Buick owners might need to conspire and record which generator gears are compatible with each series across the years...
I looked through about 2000pages of vintage manuals for info on the Buick spec generator gear, and I found nothing of value, crazy.
I think Peter has the most info at this point, very impressive.
As Bob Engle taught me, before install, be sure generator oil passages are free and clear, otherwise the results can make quite a mess and take a lot of time to remove and clean.
Most folks can make their own gaskets, or Olsons has most of what might be needed.
Happy motoring in Wilkes-Barre,
Mario
Nice hearing from you Mario.
Yes I believe those you mentioned are the same. Please note the info in this image and compared to Peter's images and data suggests that the reference to "Timing Gears" (1-1/8 or 1-1/4) must be referring to these main helical gears. Peter's 1933 956 B2 60-80-90 series measured 2-7/16 x 1-1/8 18 teeth and the one I purchased turned out to have the same dimension and I believe is to a 50 series and not what I need. But the only difference is the main helical gear which is why I am on the hunt for one. Very surprised to find that Pete's 1933 956-B3 50 series seems to have the gear I need. Can you provide those dimensions and specs on your 956 and 940 to confirm 20 tooth and 1-1/4 wide.
Tony
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Hey Pete
I purchased a Generator Identified as a 940 T on a new reproduction tag. So I am not sure if it has the correct helical drive gear on the front. It would be odd that someone did not put back that which came on it. Still that does not ID the series. The gear on this is an 18 tooth 2-7/16 diameter 1-1/8 wide helical gear. I believe I can see the characters FX on the face. My original gear was on my original armature I sent out to be restored. I will have it back about Friday. I will provide specs on that when it arrives. My guess is it will be 1-1/4 wide and different in teeth or diameter. If you have these drive gears in hand can you verify the gear dimensions ?
Tony
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I appreciate the vote. Yes that is the vehicle just a bit more completed.
I sent an email to Hershey but did not hear back.
Tony