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B Jake Moran
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You are right. This is a good deal.
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Both are AC cars but otherwise pretty base.
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Stop posting 63s Leif!
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1 hour ago, DrumBob said:
IMO, once Elvis got out of the Army, his music went downhill real fast. When he became a fat, drug addicted cartoon of his former self, he lost all credibility.
I understand that sentiment but Elvis was an icon beyond his last years.
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6 minutes ago, deac said:
Okay this one is suspicious. The car sold on BAT for $47,000 a year ago and now it's for sale for $16,000? No pen burn here; I would want to know the whole story behind the big price drop. Mind you the location is very close to the boarder. It just does not add up!
It’s not for sale deac. Not a real ad.
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16 minutes ago, The 55er said:
MY PRODUCTION NUMBERS FOR 1941 8 CYLINDER BUSINESS COUPES LISTED ABOVE ARE INCORRECT! After further review, my source shows there were a total of 771 Saratoga and New Yorker business coupes combined produced in 1941. I don't have any further breakdowns. Sorry for the wrong information.
It's OK. So, I used to have a rule of 10%. It's non scientific, but was based on some research some of us car guys did about 30 years ago. We figured that 25% of the cars production, whatever car, was gone in the 1st 4 years. This being a pre war model right at the war, maybe the survival rate was higher initially. So let's say 6 years for this 1941 model, since some were bound to be traded in post WW2.
771 x .75 = 578 cars left in 1947. After this initial period, another 25% gone in the next 5 years, in other words, roughly 50% of the cars production gone in 10 years, more or less, with 10% per decade after that until it reaches collector status.
That would have 386 of these left in both series at about 1951. The 50's were the era of planned obsolescence. I have 347 by 1960, 312 by 1970, and about 280 by 1980. By the late 70's these would be considered collectible I would think, but remember - this includes ALL cars including those in ravines, junk yards, backyards, etc.
We were in a statistics class, and using data from national records. Remember the old ads touting 75% of all Chevy trucks are still on the road, or similar claims. Today it is hard to imagine that perhaps 50 of these Business Coupes exist from 1941, but I would say the number would be 50-100. -
1 hour ago, The 55er said:
Body might be more solid than most but this coupe has had a hard life. Still a major moneypit restoration project. Needs a complete interior and a lot of body work with all those bumps & bruises. Says cruise as is but I don't think it's safe to drive with all the broken glass. IMO it's more of a curse as is.
No , no cruising as is, and yes I agree that the New Yorkers are too rare, unless someone else has restored it. I don't know, but I like the Dodge front end more than the Plymouth, a bit less than the Chrysler Windsor.
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Like most of us, I too love the 1962 Wildcats and this one is likely set up nicely. I am not an AC fan, except in my daily modern car, but on older cars they usually "just need a charge $$$" and so I would rather just have one with no AC, as this does.
The ad is horrible, but if the interior in white is otherwise saveable and can be cleaned up, then this car is modestly overpriced.
My issue is the one photo with the seam split on the bucket seat. These early 60's seats in vinyl had embossing which has to be insanely difficult to duplicate. I suppose SMS has the ability but the cost in both time and money has to be prohibitive. That seat foam, sitting in Oregon under a cover for 40 + years has to be crunchy.
Maybe the back seat can be left alone or refoamed. I will say this, white is AWESOME! as an interior choice both for it's uniqueness and cooling effect in a non AC car.
I also had heard that quite a few Wildcats had the vinyl roof covering and this one appears both intact and saveable, from the poor photos at least. I normally am not a fan of vinyl tops but let's face it, that is what makes a 1962 Wildcat unique, as to my knowledge, years after 1962 saw few vinyl roofs on Wildcats, and with those 1st year Holls additions of emblems on the C Pillar, it looks good.The body color of that dark maroon is a good choice to me. I would repaint it, I just can't live with that tired old paint. Chrome is probably fine, and to redo the chrome just to get it 10% better would put someone back at least $3,000 on the bumpers.
I really question the "2,000 made" common statement about 1962 Wildcats. I have seen a lot over the years for sale, for being 62 years old now. But I am sure they are rare.
Who's buying it! This guy is likely a flipper. He is stubbornly trying to exact a high return. But still, it speaks to a slow market when he has not sold after all these months.-
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15 minutes ago, Jack Bennett said:
At 6’1” and at about 200 pounds, this young man is either awfully big for his age or having a bit of problem with obesity.
In the second instance, obesity can be directly linked to inactivity, inactivity connected to isolation and isolation connected to a personality disorder.
While the intentions of your wife are commendable, are you sure this is not a problem better handled by professionals, and your involvement limited to that of a friend?
Apparently he is more of an introvert, and less than an extrovert, exactly the opposite of what you would like him to be.
The worse word in the American English vocabulary is “I” because it usually ends up as a self bolstering attempt to inflate a deflated ego than communicate some initial thought.
In this instance “I” seems to be a person torn between pleasing your wife, soothing your personal issues regarding your retirement, finances, health and ethics.
The other person most involved in this issue is a young man who seems to have chosen a path leading away from what others consider as “the norm”.
This is not 1900, we don’t communicate by smoke signals, and as surely as Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Elon Musk are real people, we are on the crux of sending humans into space. And the “gamers” will be at the leading edge of the technology which will allow that to happen.
You have very eloquently described the facilities, machinery and background association this young man has at his convenience. But, you skirted the explanation of why he doesn’t involve himself in something other than gaming if he already has barns, fields, tractors, and who knows what other resource he can use to enhance his skills and help his mother with her enormous task of dealing with his siblings?
My suggestion is that you guide by nudges, from the aspect of a caring, older friend. And, leave the psychological stuff to people both educationally and emotionally equipped to deal with it than you are.
Lastly, WHY CARS……..cars are the same machinery used to plow fields if assembled into a tractor body, or a fun thing to ride if a old motor scooter or motor cycle is more in line with skill levels and attention span.
I think the saying goes “You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink”.
Hello Jack:
I appreciate all commentary, I am not thin skinned so I appreciate your thoughts regarding motive and purpose. I assure you that his mom and my wife and I engaged him to see if his interest was real and it is. It may wain, but he is in a program for auto body now, and seems interested in that as a career. He is a senior in high school, works a part time job, and is not overweight.There are a lot of kids much taller and bigger then I remember when I was growing up. He works on their farm, where they have horses, cows, and other livestock. He mows that large hobby farm grass area. He used to help his dad before he passed away restoring farm tractors, as that was his dad's hobby. There are several around.
However, I am not "into" farm tractors and would not have as much skill set restoring those. We did not push this on him, nor would we push him if he chooses to not be as involved. However, there are skills he can learn assisting us in the restoration that can carry over to his work in auto body.
Again, I appreciate your perspective. It's hard to truly convey a story in a forum, so perhaps I did not do a great job.
We are set to pick the car up in Minnesota on Sunday and it will be dropped off at the farm Sunday. I am not farting around on getting on it, we will begin next week.
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On 2/10/2024 at 8:47 PM, B Jake Moran said:
I will certainly remember that, thanks.
Interestingly, 80% of the colors offered in 1981 are metallic. That leaves Black, White, Red and Bright Yellow. I can't see us choosing yellow. Black would work, because it has a black interior but again, with T Tops I was considering changing the interior color.
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After seeing so many cars in brown, black, silver, etc, I like the occasional splash of color. I don't mind Aqua or Turquoise.
What I fail to understand about these "free" Facebook marketplace ads is why the sellers don't price adjust after 5 months? Or do a new ad. I guess some sellers don't understand that facebook is about selling ads and if no one can see your ad, they can't see facebook's ads.
Have you ever "saved" something on marketplace, later delete it, then perhaps regret that decision, and go back to "find it"? I do, and it hardly ever comes back into my search/feed.-
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Marketplace - 1975 Lincoln Continental · Mark IV | Facebook
Seller's Description
1975 Lincoln Continental Mark IV. Only 65,000 miles! Garage kept, new brakes, transmission work, new paint, chrome polished, leather conditioned! Gorgeous car, runs great, practically floats down the highway. Power windows, power seats, power locks, cruise control, air conditioning, the works! Asking $10,000 OBO
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Most of us like these Mopar 42-48 3 window cars because they are different. If I had a chance to buy one, I prefer the Chrysler Windsor 6 cyl and grille, the New Yorker is the most desirable but that 8 cyl is expensive to rebuild and parts are harder to get.
Now, this one obviously needs a seat, appears to missing door panels and carpet. Needs pretty much a complete restoration. While all restorations are expensive and economically unfeasible, perhaps this one costs a few bucks less, given it's Dodge 6 cylinder status and failrly low chromage.
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(1) Marketplace - 1947 Dodge coupe | Facebook
7 Dodge Coupe. Runs good. Starts drives and stops. Cruise as is, or a nice start to a project.
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Marketplace - 1949 Oldsmobile 98 | Facebook
1949 Oldsmobile 98. NO TITLE. Pretty solid and pretty straight car. Bought for parts car but to good to part out. Has rust in Floors and in front corners of quarters. Motor is apart and pieces are in the car. Has dent in right front fender and hit in rear bumper. These are all the pics I have and not going to take a bunch. If interested come look at it. Car is located in vandalia,mo
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Thank you. Yes I know it’s a mess and this is a typical stupid seller on Facebook marketplace but it’s kind of fun to still be finding these cars. What’s the wheelbase? Sure would be nice to see the data plate. 1st thing I would do is dump that stupid gas tank.
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Does anyone know what model this is? Sidemounts on a 1940 Buick? No photos of the engine, but could this be a Model 81 or so? I am kind of guessing because I no longer know my model numbers by heart.
However, I thought 1940 was the 1st year for a Super 4 door which - for lack of a better comparison - emulated the Cadillac 60S, with a thick B Pillar, and true trunk, like the Roadmaster. So the sellers odd description of it being a 1940 Super 8 Limited is confusing. What do you experts think this car is? -
Marketplace - 1940 Buick Super 8 limited | Facebook
Seller's Description
I DONT HAVE TO SELL. NOT COMING OFF THE PRICE RUNS AND DRIVES AND STOPS WILL NEED TRAILERED CAR IS ALL ORIGINAL except has a brand new fuel cell and fuel lines Needs a radiator, and tires
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Really poor photos BUT IF the description and photos are correct, then cars like this should end any talk of restoring a car.
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Marketplace - 1937 Pontiac deluxe | Facebook
1937 Pontiac Deluxe · Sedan · Driven 41,000 miles Very clean running driver car is worth a look no disappointments.
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2 hours ago, RansomEli said:
May I make a recommendation? If youse guys are going to repaint the car, Orange Metallic is not a good choice for a first time painter. Start with a non-metallic color that will be much easier to spray and repair when you make mistakes.
Sounds like an exciting project.
I will certainly remember that, thanks.
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It's not an antique. But the club needs to use an arbitrary number for membership, and 25 years from manufacture seems as good as any. I would not confuse the name of the club with that meaning the club believes a 25 year old car is an antique.
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29 minutes ago, suchan said:
The only hope for this car would be if the family kept working on it, but they just want it to go away.
I'm betting the V-12 sells separately, and the car ends up a big GM engine and a seriously non-factory paint job.
I've never seen the back end of one of these without the spare. Beyond strange.
I am in agreement with you. If that V12 is well sorted, the work is documented, etc, then it would be easy pickings for another Continental owner, probably back to the late 1930's.
And, I can't tell you how many times I have seen post war Continentals with modern V8's in the past 25 years. The sellers always say the car is restored. Groan.-
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I don’t think it took to the 1942 restyle well.
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Two 1964 Wildcat convertibles in central OK., projects, $2500 for all
in Buick - Buy/Sell - Not Mine
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I wouldn't go that far, but yes Adam has a good eye. Unfortunately, I think the blue car was a better restoration candidate because of original color, that blue is nice. I owned a 64 Wildcat convertible, perhaps one of my top 5 favorite cars, that went to Sweden. The buyer came to me to prep it, with a rented truck and trailer.
It was the same yellow color, but had a saddle bucket seat and console interior, the deluxe interior.
The question is - could you get the seller to sell you just the yellow/red car to restore? If we consider halfsies, then that puts it at about $1250, which is a good price. I never understand sellers selling a 2 or 3 car deal. I can barely afford to transport one car, let alone 2.