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B Jake Moran

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  1. Yes that's the one. Then there was the 54 Buick Century listed recently in the Buick Buy Sell section that was listed for $9500.  A 54 Buick Century 2 door hardtop is apples to apples comparison to this car. This car (Packard) is nice but every seller is looking around and thinking "if that guy can get that price, my car should be worth..."

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  2. Sale price duly noted.   I loved it for sure.   As a coffee drinking member I browse 6T's and 58Y's postings and others.  If a car is priced correctly, new buyers feel they are getting the car at a good price point.  But so many of these cars are priced at $20,000 and higher, like the 57 Century that was discussed.  Is this seller selling too low?   I don't think so, they are correctly pricing it.   The issue is the other cars drop off the radar and we never know what the market corrected sale price is, and price guides are never realistic.  

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  3. Here we go again.  Does every old car for sale start in the $20,000's?   I am getting closer to retirement, as I believe these sellers are already there, and I am NOT spending $23,000 on a 56 Packard.   I don't care for the colors on the outside.  But I am a 56 Packard fan owing to their "last of" status.  They did not make many of these Executives.  A late Nance move to push cars.  But few people care.  I looked the car over, then my eyes kept gravitating to that nasty spare rim in the trunk.    We as interested bystanders usually never know what these over priced cars sell for, wish we did, but I think this one will stay with this greedy seller for a long time.  


    Further up there was a black 1956 Cadillac Fleetwood in nice driver condition for I believe $14,000, already sold.  And since asking price is likely not selling price, I suspect it went for $12,000 or so.    Just so you guys don't think I am off my rocker on these "these cars are over priced" comments. 

  4. After looking at the photos, and if the ad is to be believed, then this car is a very nice example.  Price will be the issue.  Who is the buyer?  I assume a lot, but I am assuming this era of car is owned by an elderly retiree that needs to sell as they can no longer drive it.  Perhaps a next gen relative is helping with the sale.   The price is high.  


    So, a black car, in Florida, even with a grey interior - will appeal mainly to older folks as a Sunday driver, festival car.  If I had $25,000 I would buy 2 - 3 cars.  I think it's high point may be $18,000.  Don't care what the price guides say, those 2 words together are often oxymoronic.  



  5. 1 hour ago, SIPLOWGUY said:

    Does anyone from the Scranton Region AACA know about this car? I reached out to them and the only reply I got was from a former member who didn't remember the car. The consigner's website says, "WAS THE FEATURED SHOW CAR IN THE 29TH ANNUAL SCRANTON REGION AACA" so I would think someone in that region would remember the car. I know when a car like this is at my region's show it gets noticed and remembered. What does anyone think a realistic price is on a car like this? Haggerty values in high but is that a valid price structure? Thanks for anyone's input.

    Again, nothing that this seller claims can be taken for truth.  He / She is trying to sell a car.  If still available I would reach out directly to the seller.  As an experienced buyer and seller (270 cars in 40 years) I would not start the conversation or even broach the comments or hyperbole he has stated. But, if he starts bragging about his comments, ask for clarification, I guess.   


    Either way, buy the car, not his comments.  As with other comments, the Imperials as a group were probably more complex than the GM luxury cars of the same era.  Mopar/Imperial engineering in my opinion was excellent at this time but also over complicated.  

  6. Beautiful, but fix the wiring issues and disclose what we know are other issues, for $14,000.  I am thinking that would have the 327 in it, not the 288.  Either one in my opinion, would be a nice touring motor.  Obviously this is yet another one you do not restore.  Only maintain and improve.  But as part of a collection, I think it would be great.  

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  7. All good points, which is why people are no longer restoring cars and the old adage buy the best car you can applies.  It's not 100% true that no one is doing restorations but just about.  I am saying this is a nice driver but not a $25,000 car or even close.  I used to watch markets closely and got paid for awhile to provide assessments.  While no expert I can tell you that in my opinion, $20,000 should buy a really nice 1950's 2 door hardtop.  Everybody has a budget and mine is "zero" but if I did want to pull the trigger on another old car, it would likely be a driver class vehicle and if you don't like whatever is wrong with it I don't care.  If I had a high point car, there would be some reluctance to drive it.  With driver class cars, not so much concern, just drive it.  This is a driver after you go through the brakes and some of the other things, and for that $12,000 seems like good money to me.  


    If he can't maintain this then I don't see him building a 70's Chevy truck, which admittedly I considered and they are hot.  Anything Chevy truck from the late 30's to 1972 is in demand.  I love the 67-72's.  Nice ones command $30,000, $40,000 from dealers for those salt and pepper retirees with more cash than brains.  Huge catalog support.   But I think this guy put $25,000 so he could get a very nice driver truck that needs nothing, like his Buick did 20 years ago....

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  8. Very nice car and yes I liked seeing these on the streets.  I do not personally care for light colors.  What little chrome or stainless/aluminum these have does not pop like on a dark blue or black one.  Must have road wheels.  I would retrofit 15 inchers, polish that chrome. Raised white letters are a necessity too.  I also would tweak the motor while maintaining it's visual stock-ness.  These were not fast cars.  But, you get a hood bulge and road wheels.   Would not hurt to have bucket seat console.  I always look for that 1st as I am pretty sure production was about 85% bench seats or 40/60's versus true bucket seat consoles.    For this car, I suspect $11,000 is all the money.  Wonder what Matt Harwood thinks about retail value on these? 

  9. Yes I am just starting to understand Sloan's genius.  Obviously when he started automobiles were in their infancy so he wasn't like Henry Ford or the Dodge Brothers, Chevrolets or Duesenbergs.  But he had an intimate understanding.  In this section of the book it explains that American entrepreneurial exceptionalism that defined this era.  Hyatt was a floundering company until Sloan's dad put $5000 into it and deginated a couple of guys including Alfred to run it.  


    Alfred would get new business by engineering applications of the bearings to the customer's car, and new applications in those cars not considered before.   Then boom, the company took off. 


    This then gave him an important understanding of the automobile which served him well.  But that is getting ahead of the story. 

  10. Ben I do believe the OP is gone.  Anyway, I am no longer working on cars but - when I had an issue like this non start I would take it as an opportunity to replace components so associated.  For instance, most of us agree the battery may be the core issue since the starter 'clicked.'  I may be in the minority here, but even if it is the battery, I would replace the battery, cables, reattach ground with solid metal and maybe look at a rebuilt starter.  I know, seems like over kill but I would use the opportunity to redo my starting components.  


    I think old cars can use maintenance.  If I still had an old car like this, each fall when they got put away I would do a rebuild of something.  In fact I used to do that.  Pull the carb off and have it professionally rebuilt.  Water pump, that sort of thing, long before touring season.  


    Now back to your bemusing comments. 

  11. You just acquired something but not sure it is anything close to a 1939 Dodge D11.  Highly modified.  If it was an artifact of the WWII era and could be "authenticated" (I use that word reluctantly) then it might be a fun exercise in restoration.  Unfortunately I see no correlation.  Why would anyone cut the back off in 1942 of a 3 year old car to get a few extra rations of gas? And to the authorities it would still be a car.  No, this was customized at some later date and looks horrible with the wheels on it, in my opinion.  It is yours now.  Not much a person can do with it.   I would say that would be $100 well spent though.  

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