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Looks like a survivor in nearly original condition. Here is a clickable link -
1931 Studebaker For Sale $8000.00Studebaker Commander Eight Regal Sedan Series 70
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Just a couple of shots, first, why would anyone want an electric vehicle? This would have been a great question to ask about petrol vehicles at the very early part of the twentieth century. Second, about the electricity grid, well technology is changing very quickly. Indiana has dropped to 8th for coal production. As the grid continues to diversify there will be more opportunities for smaller production facilities, even home production because of better distribution control and affordable equipment. We are at a cusp like the one that occurred in the late nineteenth century and early twentieth. It is indeed a great time to be alive.
As for Tesla, its namesake, a not so poor immigrant who with the help of Westinghouse took on Edison, harnessed the power of Niagara Falls, lit the 1893 World's Fair in Chicago (even though Edison refused to sell them any bulbs) and won the, "Battle of the Currents" which is why we now have an electric grid based upon AC which can be transmitted over long distances instead of the localized DC power stations Edison championed. History is repeating itself only a bit different. While I cannot afford a Tesla automobile I damn sure support what they are doing.
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On 9/19/2018 at 1:13 AM, cahartley said:
Wisconsin will too........although the process is quite lengthy.
It's fine if you live here and buy a vehicle with the intent of keeping it.
https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/dmv/vehicles/title-plates/surety-bond.aspx
Our process here on low value vehicles is pretty loose. I couldn't say about modern vehicles but vintage ones without high resale values I don't think they want to put that much effort and money into. My Siata appears to be a 1969 though the title says 1970 and they titled it as a Fiat. It had to be in the Indiana system because it had originally came from here 10 to 15 years ago. Was finally titled in Ohio then I bought it and re-titled it in Indiana. My Stude Dictator originated in Illinois, then was titled in Michigan and I moved it to Indiana. The title is using the body tag not the serial number on the frame.
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You can always just title it in Indiana, if the Hoosier state won't title it nobody will.
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I wanted to satisfy myself that this car is the one from the episode so I made a comparison photo. It is the car, the upper one is a shot from the show, the lower from the craigslist ad. You can see the paint and rust on the fenders match perfectly.
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No Robert the car came from Michigan. I first had to drive over 200 mile round trip to pick up the Jeep and Trailer near Vincennes, IN then return home to Greenfield, IN. I then drove to a town above Flint, Michigan that I cannot remember the name of, then back to Greenfield. Later I had to return the Jeep and trailer to Vincennes and drive back home. It was a lot of traveling.
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These showed up on Facebook Marketplace. One is a Borgward Isabella Coupe and the other I believe is a Morris Minor 1000. They are in Rushville, IN. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/990164037853740
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I borrowed a Jeep and trailer from my sister and drove about 800 mile round trip to pick up my Stude. BTW, I did the trip alone.
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1 hour ago, 1912Staver said:
In Canada at least the subsidy is a substantial rebate to the purchaser. A reward for buying a car that costs more than 3 years of my middle class take home earnings.
Greg
I was thinking of the US military and government though I imagine Canada receives a benefit from this also. Ya'll should have to subsidizer our military, I'm tired of doing it.
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3 hours ago, mercer09 said:
They are not priced in the " most people" price range, Tesla's are a luxury car, ad are priced in that range to appeal to those buyers who are considering the high end Mercedes and such. I am not really sure what your point is or where you are going with that observation. True most of America is not Westchester, or any of the surrounding suburbs of NYC, LA, or SF, but those areas are the highest income areas in the US as well as the most densely populated. I see at least 2 or 3 Tesla's a day here on Long Island, and many more European Luxury cars. and at least 7-10 Escalade's daily, and they are selling for $10,000 over the $97,000 window sticker. The Tesla is not a Chevrolet Volt which to me is nothing more then a golf cart with windows and a radio, I personally feel that GM could care less if they sell one Volt, but it does help them with their CAFE Standards, so while it easy to say Tesla is playing the system, they all are!
Why care if somebody wants to buy a Tesla if they can afford it. As pointed out earlier in this thread Tesla's are made here in the USA and employ people
John, very simple point, if nobody can afford them, you cant sell them. Ever wonder why Tesla is losing billions?
do the math John, everyone is not a big deal!
I think you are right and wrong at the same time. GM only cares about the Volt, well for the fuel standards. Even with subsidies it was a loser. However like those early NASA rockets, the engineers learned something, even from the ones that blew up on the launch pad. If there is one thing is clear from history, long established companies usually lose out on new technologies because they don't embrace them. Back in the 50s IBM turned down Chester Carlton's copy process. They said that 250k units the market would be saturated. A little film company took a chance on the process, mortgaged their factories, spent years in development and launched the Xerox 914 in 1959. IBM was wrong, they couldn't make the damn copiers as fast as they could sell them. History is rife with stories like this one. A more modern version is Dyson. Its a good story and one about how the major manufacturers were all wrong. Like Dylan said, "the times they are a changin' "
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2 hours ago, mercer09 said:
Keninman,
when you spend 1000. dollars but only take in 10 dollars, you are tanking. Go read the ER for Tesla and maybe you'll understand.
If you make 100k a year and spend 200k a year, yes you are broke.
The problem with your analysis is that you are only measuring cash flow. If I buy a new widget making what-ya-ma-call-it and spend $1.5 million on it, the thing is still worth $1.5 million and does not instantly become worthless though I laid out $1.5 million of someone's money before selling my first widget. The factories and technology Tesla has developed will pay out over decades not one financial quarter. They couldn't start quite like Ford did and make a few autos by hand while buying engines from the Dodge bros. Even Studebaker was making wagons and carriages when they added in some new fangled automobiles, noisy, unreliable and expensive as they were in that day and age. Tesla is building from the ground up and it won't be a simple process. I would also imagine that they have acquired a great deal of technology, both in the autos and manufacturing technology that they will sell or license to other manufactures.
I think the greatest threat to Tesla is what is about to happen in the US and world economies. This boom has ran too long, the US deficit is exploding, a lose lose trade war and the inverted yield curve in the bond market harbinger much leaner if not down right desolate times ahead. While Tesla may very well "tank" I doubt they will be the first and certainly not the last. Anyhow their technology and knowledge will spread, one way or another. The concept of both the car and manufacturing process are sound, just as sound as petrol was back in the beginning of the auto boom when tin lizzies and flivers tried to prove who could make it over the hill and later who could do it in the fastest time.
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I wonder how someone got the notion that Tesla is "tanking"? The stock price is not the only measure of a company. The speculators might pulling back but unless Tesla is issuing more stock, they already have their money. Tesla is not only about electric cars but producing them in numbers that will make them affordable to the average buyer.
The idea is sound but any cutting edge concept like their automated assembly lines are chancy at best. I imagine folks were saying similar things about Ford back in the day. Automation is already here and will only increase as time goes by, the old days of an assembly worker turning bolts is soon to be completely obsolete and pumping gas will be a quaint as hitching rails, watering troughs or even phone booths, better get use to it.
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4 minutes ago, 1912Staver said:
It's not the price tag , there is always going to be people from all points on the wealth spectrum. It's the tax payer funded subsidy. And from what I am hearing it is happening in both the U.S. and Canada.
Greg in Canada
So do you think that the government is not subsidizing every car company, even with just artificially low taxes and cheap gasoline because our military is ensuring the oil always flows?
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All of the metal brake lines have been replaced. Other than the main rear line blowing, the one on the drivers rear was a bear to replace. It was so badly rusted that I had to drill the lines out of the fitting so I could reuse them with the new line. All of the brakes are working now but the passenger rear has a leaky wheel cylinder, I hope the rubber will swell now that there is brake fluid in it.
The headlights, tail and brake lights all work, the turn signals kinda work. I still need to put a steel strap under the floorboards to stabilize the passenger seat, reinstall the seat belts and install two remaining new tires and I believe I am ready for a road test. Albeit staying on the county roads very close to home.
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No further than it is I would insure the car, have someone drive down with me, do the paperwork and drive it back.
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After some more checking I am pretty sure that John348 is correct about the regulator. It seems to work at idle but as soon as you begin revving the engine the field points never open, voltage climbs toward 20v and the bat relay cuts out. If you re-energize it by pushing down on the bat relay you find that the generator has re-polarized negative. The voltage regulator that is supposed to be for this car is about $150 and that is just absurd. Checking I found that the generator should put out 15 - 20 amps and that regulators for American cars run from 25 amps and up.
I discovered one that is used on 12 volt tractors that should work. It cuts out between 15 to 18 amps so my generator should be well enough protected at a cost of about $25, shipping and all.
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This is the little Siata (Fiat). I begun troubleshooting the charging system and discovered that someone had removed the brushes from the generator. I found a set on Ebay and installed them this evening. When I started the car with the generator installed and tested the voltage it was low, like 9v and as I rev up the engine it went lower, like 6v. So I disconnected the battery ( I have a knife switch) and with the engine running found it was putting out about -14v. I followed the procedure to polarize the generator and it seemed to work. Now with the engine running I am at +13v and some change. Headlights are bright but the marker lamps pulse a bit probably because the condenser is trashed. All is good until I rev up the engine again. The regulator cuts out and if I force it in my voltage drops. If I cut out the battery my voltage is back over 13v but now I am negative at the armature. If I reconnect the battery and disconnect the armature and force the regulator back in then reconnect the armature all is good again until I rev up the engine.
My question is..... has anyone seen this before? If so was it the generator, regulator or that damn condenser. Tomorrow I will try a condenser first since both the generator and regulator are mechanical and seem to be working. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I didn't find any exactly like yours that has sold but there is one on Ebay that looks exactly like yours I think. They are asking $150 and claim it is from 1958.
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I wondered this myself JP928. It seems like the LH thread should be on the driver's side but when I look at the ones available for Fiats it says that the LH thread is on the right side. It seems counter intuitive to me and illogical since there is a washer with a tab that inserts into a grove in the spindle that prevents the bearing from ever spinning the nut either direction.
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Another Issue I ran into is that the generator would not charge. Like any good technician I started out making bad assumptions. I worked and worked with testing the voltage regulator unit and found a big tit on the field points. Filing this produced no improvement and shorting from bat to field actually dropped the voltage. I finally removed the belts and established that I could not make the generator run as a motor.
Faced with the insurmountable conclusion that I would actually have to engage in real troubleshooting I dismounted the generator from the car. I put it on the bench but could not remove the rear end shield. I did manage to drive the armature from the front end shield and discovered that someone had absconded with the brushes. Well hell then, after much web searching and gnashing of teeth I did find a pair of brushes not far from here in Goshen, Indiana. Here is to hoping theys fits.
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I should comment that these probably belong in the forigen car section but since the car is so odd I hope that anything I post might help someone in the future.
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I did get a new outer bearing, part number FAG 509764. I used a 14 x 1.5 die to true up the spindle threads which I was afraid were ruined and the nut started life as lug nut that I drilled and tapped to a 14mm x1.5 left hand nut. The bearing was quite a find and fit perfectly. I post this so if anyone else with a Siata Spring can see what worked.
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I spend way too much time this evening looking for a brake spring I took off. Even Chanin came out and could not find it though I knew it had to be on or near the workbench. After much ado I poured myself another glass of wine and set down on my stool by the workbench and tried to call my 85 year old mother. She has always been good at helping to find lost things, she says she prays on it. Well this time she had lost her own cell phone and my call went to an operator that said her voice mail was not set up. I started to call her landline and looking down I saw that damn brake spring.
Now I try not to be a superstitious sort but it makes a feller wonder. BTW, ma was fine, she answered the house phone and said that the cell was in her pocket which makes no sense because she still should have heard it. She is a bit (lots) forgetful but still must have some kinda Karma in her.
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Rusty, the problem with this nut is that they do not list its specs. I did order a nut that is supposed to fit an 850 but it is 18mm and I need 14mm. There in lies the problem. The engine and drive train is from a Fiat 850 but what are the spindles from?????? If places listed the size and thread pitch it would be no problem unfortunately they only list models.
Diff / Trans / steering box fluids
in Studebaker, Erskine & Rockne
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Was the reason for the really thick lubricants because the seal were nearly non-existent? I also wonder about how modern lubricants might affect any rubber seals as well as the brass or copper in these components. Only recently did I learn of how corrosive that modern antifreeze is, still I don't intend to pour in alcohol or kerosene.