neil morse
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Some more Buicks in a Warner Bros. picture -- this time "The Big Sleep" (1946), the iconic film noir featuring Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall. In a scene outside the nightclub/casino run by gangster Eddie Mars, it appears that the parking lot could be a Buick dealership. In a shot near the door of the club, we see a '40 parked next to a '41:
Next, we see Bogart lurking around a '41 convertible with a '40 Limited in the background:
A close up of Bogart taking cover behind the fender of the '41 convertible:
Then, at the end of the picture, Eddie Mars arrives with his goons in a '41 Limited:
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7 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said:
People get stupid about celebrity ownership.
I agree, but I have never understood this phenomenon. Some kind of custom-built car is one thing, but to pay a big premium for a standard production vehicle just because some celebrity once owned it seems crazy to me. It reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where George Costanza buys a faux-woody Chrysler K-car and is very proud of it because he has fallen for a story that it once belonged to John Voight!
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You are welcome, Bob. I hope you will start your own thread on the "Me and My Buick" forum and post some photos so we can all see what you are up to. Sounds like a very worthy project! As I said, please feel free to reach out for any help you may need. I can tell you from personal experience that these are great cars.
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2 hours ago, drovak said:
One of many things I've discovered along the way that just wasn't right...and I'm sure there will be more.
I have very little experience with kind of job you're doing here, but I'm constantly surprised to learn that with these engines it often isn't so much a matter of how important it is to get everything right so the engine will run, but instead, how well (and for how many years) the engine will run with a lot things wrong!
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8 hours ago, edk said:
14000 original miles super nice I am lucky to have it.
Wow, what a spectacular automobile! I can't get over how nice the interior is with all of that irreplaceable dash plastic in such great shape. I agree, you are a lucky man!
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On 2/7/2024 at 7:53 AM, MetroPetro said:
Here's another shot of this fellow with his nice Super:
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3 hours ago, alsancle said:
The eight cylinder cars are made of a unobtainium. I have seen two of the big New Yorkers for sale in the last 20 years. They just don’t seem to exist.
I believe they only made 699 New Yorker business coupes from 1946-1948. I had a friend about 40 years ago who loved them and had two of them. They are almost a "cartoon car" with that long wheelbase, huge trunk, and single bench seat. Certainly the ultimate 40's three window coupe, but difficult to find, as you say.
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Hi, welcome to the AACA forums! You have come to the right place to learn more about your car.
I have the same car as you, and I have the same situation with the rear fender trim. When I bought the car seven years ago, I could see that it had been repainted at some point but there were no rear fender spears and, like you, I could not detect any filled holes on the inner side.
I know that cars that were ordered with rear fender skirts (actually called "rear wheel shields" in Buick parlance) had the spears deleted from the fender and installed on the skirts. This was a $10 "factory installed accessory" as opposed to various "dealer installed accessories" that were also offered. Since the skirts were "factory installed," I assume that the fenders on cars with skirts were fitted on the assembly line with fenders that had no holes for the fender spears. So my guess is that both of our cars were originally fitted with the skirts at the factory.
Another twist to this story is extra little piece of stainless trim on the leading edge of the fender that was added to cars equipped with skirts. (See photo below)
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If a car came from the factory with skirts, there must have been holes here for that little piece of trim. I can't find any evidence of filled holes in this area on my car. So it's kind of a mystery.
I bought a nice set of spears to put on my car, but I haven't put them on yet. When I got to thinking seriously about it, I realized that it's not so simple as one might think! Once you start drilling holes in your fenders, you better get them in exactly the right place or everything is going to look crooked. It's the kind of installation that has to be nearly perfect or it's going to look awful and bug you every time you look at it! What occurs to me is that the only way to really do it right is to find someone who has a set of rear fenders that have the factory holes drilled in them. From these, you could make stencils that would insure that you are locating the holes in exactly the right place. But finding someone who has a set of fenders and would be willing to make stencils for you if going to be difficult. (The other possibility, of course, is to obtain a set of skirts and have them painted the right color. You can find skirts, but they are generally quite expensive. Also, I honestly don't think the shorter wheelbase Super and Special look very good with the skirts.) So I'm kind of stuck at this point about what I want to do.
Here's a link to my long thread in the "Me and My Buick" forum that covers pretty much everything that I've done to my car since I got it. You might want to take a look as it might be helpful to you depending on what you car needs. Also, feel free to send me a private message if you have any questions that I might be able to answer.
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Looks like a fun car at a decent price.
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20 hours ago, Andrew_Latvia said:
One thing, that makes me suspicious/looks weird is placement of rear bumper - for some reason it protrudes more than it should. Or is it just a weird angle of photo???
No, as others have stated, the "apron" between the body and the bumper was standard on the '41, and it's only the distortion of the wide-angle camera lens that makes it look weird. Here's a shot of my Super for comparison:
This car looks very good to me (based only on the photos, of course). The interior is in excellent condition, particularly the wood-graining on the dash, window garnishes, and seat back. All the difficult to find trim parts (knobs, window cranks, etc.) are there, and the gauges, dash panels and steering wheel are also in great shape. Assuming it has no serious mechanical issues, it looks like a really good deal at that price, although I know nothing about that particular dealer.
Edit: Having looked at the interior photos in more detail, I realize that my statement about "all the trim parts" being there wasn't completely correct. The ivory plastic "wings" on the window garnish moldings are missing in a few places, but reproductions of these parts are easily obtainable.
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This looks like a really nice car. I don't know if the interior is correct, but it looks appropriate and appears to have been very well-done. I would remove those skirts which look like an ill-fitting afterthought. Otherwise, as long as you can live with a lot of green, this is a great car. As has been said many times before on this forum, the MoPars from these years were very well-engineered and provide many miles of trouble-free enjoyment. I can't comment on the price -- it seems a tad high, but probably in the ball park assuming the car is in good mechanical shape.
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2 hours ago, 7th Son said:
My great uncle bought a similar Chrysler new in '47. The best and most interesting thing about it was the floppy window winder handles.
I don't remember how many times I was told to quit playing with them and to "sit still and behave".
That's a great reminiscence! Those "floppy" handles were very stylish, but they did not hold up well over time. The floppy part of the crank that folded flat was held in place by a lucite insert, and over time the plastic tended to become very brittle and break. Fortunately, someone started making reproductions so that the handles could be restored.
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It's unclear to me who asked the question, but it has "Fluid Drive" for sure -- standard equipment on the Windsor. Also written on the horn button and on the brake light housing. (It's there, Jeff, it just doesn't show up because of poor photo resolution.)
Having owned one, I can say that these are wonderful, comfortable and dependable cars that will run forever, but this one looks a bit rough to me for $6.3K.
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I fear you would immediately be underwater with this project even if the car and engine were given to you for nothing.
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For anyone interested in seeing what the correct interior looks like for this car, there are tons of great photos on this Mecum site of a stunning example that I assume is correct. (I couldn't copy any of the photos to post here because they are some kind of different format.) As has been mentioned, the real wood caps on the door panels are not correct, nor is the pattern for the seat leather.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/1095236/
Also, "Beaver Brown" somehow doesn't sound like a name that GM would have used for a paint color. How about "Opossum gray?"
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Yay! So glad that worked for you!
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2 hours ago, Manu said:
Thanks Neil. How deep is the hole passage?
I'm not familiar with the 233 ci engine, but my assumption is that it's basically the same design as the 248 in my car. The passage into the water jacket is pretty short. You can see this from the cross-section drawing I posted of the 248 block in my thread (reproduced below). But the problem is that the opening for the drain at the lowest point in a very narrow part of the water jacket. So when that part of the water jacket gets filled up with rusty bits, it completely blocks the opening. So you have to find someway of "drilling" through the accumulated shards of rust to open it up. Of course it helps if you have the head off and the core plugs removed, as I did. As you can from the little video I posted in my thread (as well as the photo that Gary W. posted on my thread), the drain plug opening lines up with one of the core plug openings on the other side of the block.
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The drain passage was blocked on my '41. The tool that finally broke through the blockage turned out to be very simple -- just a piece of bent coat-hanger wire and an electric drill. You can read about it here (click on the arrow in the upper right hand corner to get to the right starting post):
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2 hours ago, 58L-Y8 said:
I also have a 1954 Oldsmobile for sale.
The Olds looks nicer!
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4 hours ago, Tom99 said:
I see three. Did I miss any?
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From "The Killers" (1946):
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1938 Buick Spl 2dr Sdn
in Buick - Pre War
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What you have there is two front carbs, not a front and rear.