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BOB BURNOPP TESTS BUICK'S, first vehicle cover asdignment. Good picture of me with hair and youthful build. Turbinator
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Is the freight less expensive coming in to USA? Very fine looking panels. No matter freight cost, well worth having.
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Buy a train car load at that price….assuming the value in the wheel is there. Check if the wire spokes and lugs are stainless. An added value if so. My TruSpokes had a variety of bolt patterns that would fit the way the many holes were drilled. Once you get the wheels your challenge might be center cap assembly to suit your taste. Finding a flat center cap cover to fit mine took some searching. The building your assembly is where the fun begins. Best of luck Turbinator
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Mr Old German, I thought the market would demand such a product as car bolt pattern adapters. Thank you as this info can help solve problems. The wheel chart for the road wheels will also come in handy. Thank you Turbinator
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Consider these TruSpoke for your 63. These are for sale.Check out the center cap assembly.Not impossible to make. Turbinator
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EmTee, I grabbed an 802 Buick Roadwheel and bolted the 802 on my stock 1964 Chevy Impala SS. The fit tight and spun with no noise. So, the 5 on 5 fit the 5” x 120mm hub. The fit was not as designed. The studs were not centered in the holes as they should. The lug nuts tightened up nicely and appeared to help the fit. The person who wants to mix and match parts might want test fit for themselves.
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EmTee, my first thoughts as well. I truly have not experienced a 5” on 5” on 5” on 4.75”. Now Ive put 5 “on 5” my 64 Chevy Impala SS that is 5” on 120mm. Im happy to double check as I have help today in the carriage house. If it doesnt fit Im happy to wrong. Turbinator
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In cases you are trying to fit a non stock item on a vintage car you could be in for some lessons on what will fit and wont fit. Just because a wheel specification is different from original spec doesn't mean it will not fit.For instance a 5x120mm bolt pattern and 4.75 “ are close enough to fit. One writer contends the 5” on 4.75” will fit on 5 on 5. Certainly not on spec.,but doesnt mean it wont fit. For the most part we are a preservation Buick Riviera group. Preservation means putting parts together that fit. It is my belief it is each persons interpretation of fit and function. Remember its your car and your money so make sure it fits the way want it to fit. When you want to change fitment specs it is wise to counsel with those that have done what you want to do. What people write and what they actually do can be two different things. Caveat Emptor.
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I have 802’s, 853, 895, re-chrome, or in very nice shape as is. Also, I have newly chrome two bar spinners with new emblems. You are right chrome plating is expensive. The webs can be left alone or powder coated any color you want. The turbines are reworked to shine anf free of cracks, etc. All bosses are functional should be. I can ship UPS to Western Canada by UPS FOR 50 % of UPS retail. All my equipment is OEM. You can buy Buick Roadwheels reproductions for reasonable prices. ( the gloss black on the Road Wheel in the picture is by customer request) Get what you want where you want. Id recommend the cast aluminum turbines for your 63 because that is what I like. The Buick Road wheel was not an option on the 63 Riviera. But, please put anything on your car you like.
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New to Rivieras...looking to get my first...starting research
Turbinator replied to MrMajstyk's topic in Buick Riviera
You more than likely know 60 year old AC on the 63-65 are not so easy to resurrect. They like R12 and that is what I use for my 63 Riviera. Converting to 134a is possible but remember these cars were not designed for 134a. I repaired my AC with some help. I replaced all the components I could with new aftermarket. Exception was A6 Compressor from ALMA Industries. Brand new with double pully works very good. Im not HVAC trained nor mechanical, but I get the job done. in my opinion shopping cars from club members might lead to a better field of choices. You would think member cars would be maintained. A common problem with 63-65 is the rear window is susceptible to leaks. It can be repaired. Parts are not as readily available as other GM cars. I own a 64 Chevy Impala SS 327 and Ive had no problems getting parts. There are numerous Riviera used parts suppliers. Like anything automotive there are some good and great suppliers. If you work to make good connections you can get what you need. if your hot rod days are over the 63 has the DynaFlow transmission. Smooth smooth ride. A bit sluggish, but way strong enough for me. Turbinator -
John, Safety is important, real important. Having s fire extinguisher close by is wise. Turbinatot
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Ive used Mr Chrome extensively and so far he has been a right good supplier. No complaints. 4.75 to 5 Star shop. Bob Burnopp
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Here is an 895 with customer requested black gloss. Applying a powder coat the applying black epoxy paint will give the roadwheel good protection.
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Loren, I appreciate you taking the time to help out on the learning curve. My time in high school French class could have been better spent in shop class. My shop class now is learn by my mistakes. But, your input cut down on my mistakes. Thank you again. Turbinator
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Two Buick Brochures depicting two different items as correct
Turbinator replied to Turbinator's topic in AACA - Class Judging
Here we are 2023 and I had the 63 Riviera judged at the AACA meet in Hershey 2022. I was delighted for the car to receive a recognition award in my class as Junior Third. The award means I had the third highest point tally im my class for a first year showing. Not a word was said about my compass. I have American Classic Radial bias look tires that look pretty good to me, but the judges said they have to be original bias tires even though they looked like bias. I let it go and thanked the captain of the judging team for volunteering. -
Two Buick Brochures depicting two different items as correct
Turbinator replied to Turbinator's topic in AACA - Class Judging
The brochure I mentioned was an error or my part. I do not have a published brochure of my Dinsmore compass. The photocopy I took of my Dinsmore compass was taken from a 1963 Buick spec book with colors and fabric samples. The 63 Spec book is owned by Gene Guarnere. -
I bought it. I have some holes to cut, but not for air filters. Looks like a good design and well made. Probably not as good as the the tried and true string with a pencil on one end and center point on the other for the radius. Turbinator
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Two Buick Brochures depicting two different items as correct
Turbinator replied to Turbinator's topic in AACA - Class Judging
Rodney, thanks for your observation. The Buick Specifications book for all 1963 that showed the style I like was a mistake. Secondly, another 63 Buick Spec book a Buick Wildcat owner showed did not have my style compass in his book. The Buick Wildcat owner’s book showed the Starwars type compass and a barrel shaped compass with GM on the face. I would speculate the person that compiled my Spec book simply did not have the correct compass info about the compass at the time the book was printed. In another instance regarding the proper grain pattern on the dash pad for the 63,64, and 65 Riviera is the hair cell pattern. Ive found hair cell pattern is the grain pattern of the hair side of the animal skin. Leather can come from cows, pigs, ostrich, alligator, crocodile, and thanks to the Chinese the dog hide. My sources for the grain info is from personal experience of slaughtering pigs and cows, a tanner, and an upholsterer, and print materials. My point is Ive seen two distinct hair cell patterns for thr 63,64,and 65 Buick Riviera. The two patterns are indiscriminately mixed in the 63-65 Riviera. How would I know? I upholster 63-65 Buick Riviera dash pads and use an ABS vinyl plastic single piece designed to be a direct fit for 63 and 64-65 dash pads. Ive searched so far to find suppliers refer to the dash grain pattern as Madrid. I contend when the vinyl was embossed for the 63-65 Rivieras the vinyl came from two suppliers. Each supplier had a different hair cell pattern. The Buick buyer was splitting the business between the two suppliers to keep the peace or the Buick buyer dare not run out of ANY embossed vinyl so he bought from both suppliers. Errors and honest inconsistency happen in this spec arena for spec books and Service Manuals. The 63 Service manual says the AC compressor needs 3.5 lbs of R12. If you want cold air you better put in 4 lbs plus. My opinion is misprints, errors happen in the 63 Riviera spec books. Interpretation of the truth with a capital “T” is not worth the time. Reason is evidence at the ROA meets precious few Rivieras Ive seen are 100% stock. Its not bad, it is many of us personalize our stock Rivieras with different wheels and different tires. Other differences could very well be compasses, additional radio speakers , and even the color of the car. So, is an inconsistency in a Buick spec book wrong? How do we prove it is a misprint? Evidence is required then the evidence must be proven. Let us interview the experts to form a jury. Rodney, thanks for your input by taking the time to post good solid remarks. Bob -
Well, i did buy the hole cutter. If it works that will be good! ill keep you advised. later gator
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Polyvance is the solution I like. However, i contend there is more than one better way to a job. Turbinator
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Willis- this popped up. I cut holes for many home projects. I saw ( pun) this as a catch all. 2”-20” hole cutters SKU 1891192 Hilnor tools at Supply House ( have not purchased yet) Description – Cutting holes in sheet metal just got a whole lot easier. These two tools allow you to bring some power to what was previously a manual job, whether you use the smaller Hole Cutter for 2” to 12” holes or the larger Hole Cutter for 2” to 20” holes. Looks like sheet metal has met its match.
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Newly Chromed 853 Buick Roadwheels. Chromed in USA 2 units per each one at $600.00. $1200.00 for two 2 Model 853. Freight is additional Webs can be powder coated for $100.00 per each wheel. Buy on eBay for 15% more. Price is firm. Turbinator PM if you would like to purchase the items. OEM stamped on the barrel oif the wheel.
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Ray, I had a prototype delivered mid November. I was out of town for a month. I was a bit too hopeful thinking Id buy a wholesale amount. I settled for a prototype and it looks good. The MOQ is high for my risk/reward tolerance. Ive twisted the numbers every which way and Im afraid my brand of arithmetic just will not show a worthwhile investment. im thinking many would rather blow out the existing filter and continue use as opposed to buying new. There is no status nor sense in over spending. Thank you for your inquiry. Turbinator
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checked to see if they were still available/selling them at this time This one looks pretty good for a prototype, BUT it might be too expensive to make. I know car collectors typically through nickels around like they are man hole covers so the price has to be right.