Turbinator

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About Turbinator

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    Turbinator ( Formerly Red Riviera Bob )
  • Birthday 09/24/1950

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    Lutherville, Maryland
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    music, outdoor activities involving landscaping and hardscaping, and playing music.

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  1. Tom, thank you for your consideration and efforts to help. The time you took to clarify use of compressed air to check for leaks makes plenty common sense. I wanted to make sure when I checked for leaks I didn’t contaminate the system the least little bit. I’ve heard moisture in the system is not good by a number of people. The art and the science of of mobile AC is something I’m slowly learning. i just read one automotive AC article regarding using compressed air and dry nitrogen to test for leaks. The article said do not use compressed air or dry nitrogen, but use refridgerant to test for leaks. When I introduced the dry nitrogen in to my AC for leak testing the system had just been vacuumed fo 90 minutes. After vacuuming for 90 minutes I don’t know what was left in the system. Overkill happens when a person is trying hard to fix things and not mess things up. My friend Tom Telesco is coming to the rescue of my AC. Tom is going to stay with me for a few days before we go to Gettysburg. You can’t beat the help you get from the ROA forum. Thanks again for your consideration and professional assistance. Turbinator
  2. I really don’t know what the material is. I have a helper who does a lot of this for me. Turbinator
  3. Zimm, I found two (2) vacuum switches on ebay turbinator
  4. Bill, once I get my 63 Riv original system working my fun fun meter will be off the scale! I have everything buttoned up and a small charge of R12 in my system. The cheap Sniffer I have may be giving me false readings. The operations manual was written in Germany in English and items are lost in translation. The indicators on the sniffer do not perform as described. ‘I’ll probably buy a sniffer with an operations manual written in English by an American. With all the grammatical errors written by an American will be easy to understand how the thing works.😂 Turbinator
  5. Shouldn’t be a problem for me I’m accustomed to doing it over. Maybe a couple times or even more. If it were too,easy I’d think something was wrong. Turbinator
  6. Rich, I talked to a fellow in Ball LA that has real restoration shop. He said he put in a completely new AC system in a 68 GTO and it cost the customer $7000.00. I’m replacing my 63 AC system with all new stock components. Replacing STV with STV bypass update. I have not a bit of AC experience ( I do now) nor strong mechanical skills, but I did 90% of the job anyway. Your investment in tools like gauges, vacuum pump, dry nitrogen and regulator, rebuilt hoses, and all new components can get around $3000 plus. If I had to do it over again knowing what I know now I’d replace my own. If you know how to test components for functionality it’ll save you money. But little stuff like putting on O rings the right way to putting in cans of Freon requires knowledge, not hard knowledge, but you just need to know. For instance I replaced 3 rebuilt STV valves. Once the piston sticks they are really no more good. Replacing the evaporator box under the dash 3 times was rough as a Cobb. I mean it was real hard because the new hoses coming out of the evaporator box were stiff as a board. You got to put the STV bypass sensor in the exact place or you’ll not get the results you want. My experience tells me you have to know how to lay out the job. Don’t use compressed air to test for leaks because the compressed air has moisture and you don’t want moisture in the system. I could go on until I put you to sleep. The job requires careful planning. Real careful. Turbinator
  7. Bill, if you are moving from R12 to 134a how about the TXV, and evaporator replacement? I replaced my TXV and evaporator in my 63 Riv along with the condenser, drier, compressor, rebuilt hoses, and STV bypass. My experience trying to repair a 50 some year old system was met with many failures. I finally decided to replace everything. I should have compared the cost of a first class restoration shop aftermarket installation. I have information that indicates costs would be very close IF new replacement is the direction you want to go. My experience with repair was not successful. My replacement of the total AC in my 63 is just about ready to produce cold air. It has been a real learning experience. Turbinator
  8. Rich, your repro is outstanding. I would never had known it was anything but original. Thank you for posting. Turbinator.
  9. Mr. Konga Man, have you estimated the cost for new components? You are pretty sharp individual. If a person were to replace all components, rebuild hoses, and do the work themselves they might be smart to compare real costs with a real restoration shop after market AC system. Replacement of new components, rebuilt hoses, cost of R12, labor/leisure time consideration to fix/replace an AC in a 63 Riviera is significant. Consider mechanical skill level and special knowledge to do AC work. How about gauges, vacuum pump, dry nitrogen and regulator, sniffer, Investment costs? You think PepBoys is going to rebuild the AC hoses for $25.95 each? Id like to understand more about the basis for your assumptions regarding your your statement, “ prudent decision to FIX the original R 12 system. “ I’m respectful of your knowledge and experience in the automotive world. I would like to know more about your thoughts On how any hobbyist can replace and or fix a mobile AC system. You are welcome to ask me how I know about installing a new AC system with no prior experience. Putting in a mobile AC system in a 63 Buick Riviera is not like changing an oil filter. Encouraging hobbyists that want to fix their AC system must be advised they do significant amount of reading and study on mobile AC systems. Replacing and or fixing a mobile AC in a 63 Riviera can be done, but you have to really know what you are doing, OR, be willing to do work over. Turbinator ( soon to be mobile AC Certified ...only kidding 🤣)
  10. Gents, attached is pic of a reproduction 1963 Trishield center cap I picked up. I’ll have a few atvGettysburg. Turbinator
  11. From my experience the #1 vacuum switch is the one that brakes more often than 2 or 3. Turbinator.
  12. J3, you ask a great question. My only thought what kind(s) of skills are needed to unravel the mystery? For instance, what is the original color of the 1963 air cleaner holder? There are no paint codes. I go along with those in the know of what is accepted as the original color. Turbinator
  13. Ed, I would have dyed the vinyl and cut a piece of the dyed vinyl and pasted the cut vinyl in the sample book. Turbinator
  14. j3, so the color was wrong on the new brochure. Maybe, manufacturing changed their mind on the shade of color they were going to use after the brochure was at the dealers? I sold General Fireproofing Mail Center furniture. GF signature orange color never changed as long as I sold the product. The brochures we had were very very close to the actual color. Turbinator
  15. j3, a long time ago I was in a printers office and the topic of color came up. Unwittingly, I said how can a printer possibly get the color as close as needed every single time. The printer went on the give a lesson as he used a magnifier On a color he had in question. I’ve long since forgotten the lesson,, but I remember the occasion. Funny I remember him mentioning the color cyan had to be correct. Turbinator