Tom Boehm

Thank you for the offer but I don't think that would work. I'm pretty sure the front doors from that car would not fit that well on my car. It is because that car has had 2 major restorations and mine has had one. The cowls may have started the same but they are not the same now. A scan suggests reproducing something exactly. That being said, I have seriously considered contacting him and going out to California to look at how those doors are built. I would have to take the inner door panel off. I don't know if he would allow that. I think I have everything figured out but there are still some details I am not 100% certain will work in the end. I would need to see inside. Pictures of the outside would not be enough.

I talked with a person who has experience using a 3 axis CNC router. I decided not to pursue that option for making pieces in ash. The machine needs instructions either in the form of a CAD drawing or a scan. A CAD drawing is not easy because of the angles and curves. I was told there is some trial and error involved in getting accurate instructions for the machine via a scan. Overall, using a CNC router seemed to involve as much or more time and hassle as making the parts by hand.

The "widows peak" could have been done at restoration time. BUT look at pictures of my 1940 Lasalle in the National Woodie Club section. It has it too. I agree that detail is rare. The "widows peak" is only the edge of the top fabric. The steel goes under the fabric, past the edge for maybe another 12". I don't know if the differences in details between the vintage ad and the OP's car means anything or not. I look at and compare a lot of pictures of woodies to determine the builder. Many times I am frustrated at the variety of details that prevents a clear answer. The car in the Cantrell ad has a higher roof line.

West Peterson said "That said, it needs to be determined that it started out "life as a woodie, and not a sedan." I think this car was always a woodie and not a "phantom". (not converted to a woodie in modern times from a sedan). The OP also posted on another thread in General Discussion about 1936 Chevrolet woodies. Somebody posted a period advertisement from Cantrell. This car looks very similar to that ad. Also, this car looks even more similar to pictures of another 1936 Chevrolet woodie posted on that thread. I agree with West's estimate of value. This car appears to have good original wood and a nice patina. That is good. Also, this car may have been sitting for years? It will need to be "sorted". Sorted means, at the very least, a close inspection of the brake system and the gas tank. And a tune up.

a10moore, did you see the vintage advertisement for Cantrell posted on the first page of this thread? Your car looks very similar to the one in the ad. In 1936, a wood station wagon was not part of Chevrolet's product line. Cantrell and Campbell were companies that built station wagon bodies of their own design on Chevrolet car chassis. Chevrolet dealers advertised for these companies so they could sell a chassis. Your car looks even more similar to the pictures posted by the original poster of this thread. What does FMV mean?

These are the final "prototypes" on each side. These are the third version. Each time I made improvements. I made these of douglas fir 4x4 posts from Home Depot. Now to make them in ash. 46 woodie suggested using a CNC router to reproduce them the easy way. That is an attractive idea. Is it possible? How do I find access to such a machine? The upholsterer is cutting and sewing the leather and vinyl.

Like the metal color, I make the assumption that the clear rustoleum is the same durability as colored rustoleum in a spray can. The clear is cheap and easily available at Home Depot. It dries fast and you can put multiple coats on. I think it held up OK. No rust. I used it on some suspension parts about a year ago. That car doesn't get driven in bad weather. I also used it on a bare cast iron master cylinder and brake caliper. Small brake fluid leaks caused it to rust. The rustoleum clear comes in gloss and satin. Satin looks more like bare metal. I used the KB Diamond coat as the final coat on a basketball backboard about 7 years ago. Rust is just now starting to show. That was out in the weather 24/7/365. The Diamond coat might stand up to brake fluid better.

https://www.kbs-coatings.com/diamondfinish-clear.html I always assumed the cast iron color spray cans are the same durablility as Krylon and Rustoleum. I use clear Rustoleum spray cans on chassis parts that were originally bare metal. I think the KBS Diamond coat that I linked to is more durable than clear Rustoleum. It is one part moisture cured urethane. It is a clear version of POR-15.

About 20 years ago I researched the history of my 1940 Lasalle woodie. The Department of Motor Vehicles of Missouri and Illinois were a dead end. I was looking at the 1940- c.1970 time period. I was told either the records didn't exist anymore or they could not release information to protect privacy. I think their records started in the computer age, c.1990's.

Your question could be construed another way. I don't think your pedal car is a copy of any real car. The styling was probably made up by Murray. But to answer your question, I think it looks most like a 1946, 1947, 1948 Dodge.

Good thought Joe, I didn't think of the possibility that it was an aftermarket conversion. It seems the master cylinder would not hold as much brake fluid and it would be more likely to leak when it is mounted at an angle. Maybe you are supposed to park going down a steep hill when filling. To be clear, I think 1969 Chevelles and Camaros are neat cars. My family had one of each when I was growing up. It just seems like the SS cars have a 150% survival rate.

I went to a local car show yesterday where there were way too many Chevelle SS, Camaro SS, and Corvettes that went on past the horizon. I noticed that some with power brakes had the booster and the master cylinder mounted at an angle. How do you put brake fluid in these? Wouldn't it just run out? I asked two owners about this and one said "I don't know, I've never put brake fluid in it". The other said "I don't know, I just bought this car". This is why I don't go to many local car shows.

I have heard ash was used in auto bodies because it is "shock proof". The same reason they make baseball bats of ash. (but they still break)

I don't know what it is but the hardware and solder makes me think it is homemade.

Wow again. Are you using the 80 grit on the veneer or the framing? 80 grit seems harsh for the veneer. I have started working on my doors again. I have not worked on them since spring.

Grain It Technologies. www.woodgraining.com. You can buy the tools from them to do it yourself or you can have them do it for you. Original factory process.

I didn't try to get a warranty replacement for a Craftsman tool. They will just replace it with something made in China. I went on Ebay and bought a NOS rebuild kit for my American made Craftsman ratchet.

The other good feature about the Craftsman tool department at Sears was they had EVERYTHING. There is no retail store today that has as complete a selection of tools as Sears had. Not even Harbor Freight. Sears had carpenter tools, specialty automotive tools, machinist tools, woodworking tools, handheld power tools, stationary power tools, hand tools, electrician tools, trowel trade tools, welding tools, garden tools, air compressors, ETC. Now I run around to three stores looking for something and end up ordering it online when I can't find it.

I'm confused. So you are "Imlach" ? Or are you the person Imlach is trying to find? Either way I should not have chimed in on this thread because I don't know the answer to the original question.

He was last on this forum 2 1/2 years ago. Try to send him a personal message.

What condition is the car in? What do you want done to it?

Hello Michael, it is a 1946 Dodge truck woodie. The original poster has not been on this forum for over 3 years and is unlikely to respond. If you click on the picture of this woodie in the left margin under "Captain Flanagan", his other posts will come up with a link to a lot more information about the restoration.

I knew you would find a buyer for that quickly. I got lucky and found some for my car a few years ago.

Just like your boat thread, I always wondered how this was done. So to get this straight, there are 5 pieces of veneer used on the completed section in the picture?

I'm fretting over the doors on my Lasalle but they look easy compared to these.