Buffalowed Bill
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Post your question on the Studebaker forum. Just scroll down to find it.
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On 6/8/2023 at 3:18 PM, kingrudy said:
California had the same standards. You could use the YOM (year of manufacturer) as long as the plate was in good condition (front and back of car) and the numbers were not in use. North Carolina requires that you have one of the current plates in the car, but are not fussy about what plate you put on the car.
Caution! Some of you might remember reading about my problems with a contracted state of Washington bridge toll. The license number was right, but it was not my car. I'm quite sure you would be able find the the original thread.
My own research discovered that there were three antique cars with the same plate number in the state. The only difference was the year of the plate use was different. Remember plates were only used for one year, so there was no problem using the same plate number again. Each year required a completely different looking plate.
To muddy the waters even more, the state required restored plates. This morphed into accepting re-pop plates and original plates. If you look on eBay you can probably find a number of re-pop plates with the same number, especially if the number contains an interesting sequence like ABC 123. It's a good idea to check with the DOL in your state to find out if there are other antique cars running around with the same plate number.
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The group seems to feel that this model is much loved, but not at the price. So why should I get involved? Because I own one and a parts car too. Unfortunately this car is in no-man's land. To make it short and sweet, there have been too many 41's saved for which the demand does not exist today. Pre-war fans are leaving the market daily. In addition the resources required to put this car back on the road make it a non-starter for most guys. Don't get me wrong it's a great car, but reality sucks!
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On 6/28/2023 at 3:04 PM, nzcarnerd said:
The Studebaker is the most distinctive, but then it cost a lot more. I am guessing it is a Commander so new price circa $1600 - roughly a thousand more than the others.
I hate to contradict a Studebaker guy, but with the round headlights the Studebaker is, more likely, a Dictator. The Dictator had a price tag of about $1100, so the difference in price although not negligible, would not be as as pronounced
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Read about the discovery of the 1952htp in the General section of this forum or the SDC forum.
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Wonderful, I just read about the find on the SDC forum. I always thought it would be found. Too unique to advertise, not valuable enough to risk trying to fence. They had to keep it hidden or any sighting would lead right back to them. They had no idea what they were getting themselves into.
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Mary and I owned an all original 1946 Studebaker Business Coupe (without the jump seats). Ours was a mostly rust free Pacific NW car with 65K miles on it. If our car had looked this good it would still be in our collection. Oh why did I have to click on this thread!?
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Great opportunity for someone! After a recent move I looked at the thousands of books and Magazines that I had accumulated over the last 60yr, and asked myself why? I stopped taking several magazines and began rereading what I had. No specific order, but when I picked a magazine up I read it cover to cover. It was like reading something as fresh as it had just arrived in the mail. In addition it helped me trace how the hobby had changed over the last six decades. It also allowed me the backcheck the editorial content regarding which cars would be collectable in the future and the direction that the hobby was headed. It also gives some purpose to hanging on to this stuff in the first place!
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I guess I will never forgive GM for using set in windshields and back-glass. That brings me to my question was Ford still using form fitted window gaskets 1961-63?
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9 hours ago, Studebaker1965 said:
I sent mine to a gentleman and lady on the west coast. I searched the forums here to find the name. I think it was Clean Sweep on the west coast. Kent was the gentleman’s name.
You mean Kent Jaquil (the spelling is not right). He did work on some of my wiper motors decades ago. Always top notch work. He lived in eastern Washington later moving to southern Oregon, for his retirement. He had become quite elderly and was no longer doing wiper rebuilds the last I heard. That was at least five years ago I hope he is still with us. David Ficken has done some goo work.
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6 hours ago, tenugent said:
Automotive clear urethane with hardener
I did that with my 1967 Camaro years ago. Centari enamel with hardener added and then Sikkens urethane (hardened of course). The paint job was new and it was like a regular two stage process. The job turned out as nice as I hoped it would. I'm guessing that it could have been used over air dried enamel, but then again it might lift the color. I'd have to know more about the history of the paint that's on the truck. I just wonder why you're considering it?
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On 6/4/2023 at 2:13 PM, Avanti Bill said:
Keep in mind that the 57 F code thunderbird was supercharged and over 300 hp. They blew away the Fuelie Corvettes at speed week in Daytona in February of 57. I have a speed certificate for an F code going 160+ MPH with Danny Eames at the wheel signed by Bill France Sr. By July of that year NASCAR outlawed Supercharging and Fuel Injection for being unfair competition. I think it would be totally unfair to discount these cars as not being competitive sports cars, the only thing stronger may have been European exotics though I know of none in the 300 HP range for 57.
I was just commenting on another contributor's response. I like both the early Bird and the contemporary Corvette. Two totally different beasts. I've never owed either but have been around both in my youth. Neither one was better then the other-just different. At my age I just enjoy seeing and remembering when they were just a used car.
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" If they had only focused on making the 55 Bird a higher performing car just as it looked with a smallish second row seating option, it may have been a real winner."
To that point that is exactly what Ford did five years later with the 1st gen Mustang. It also added the element of affordability to the equation.
I often ask myself what's in a name (model, or even marque). The passing of a name can either be ignored by the masses or it's demise grieved-Oldsmobile or Plymouth. Some model names are discarded, or moved around, so often that they mean nothing. In the case of the T-Bird was it the name that sold the larger Fords or was the buying public just ready to move on from the two seater and the company just read the market correctly. In the case of the T-Bird I think it was a little of both-what say you?
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Please don't be tempted by clear coating or even a mechanical buffing (buffing wheel). A gentle hand buffing using the finest compound available at an automotive paint store, would be about as harshly as I would treat your original paint. Your paint after 70 years is going to be very thin. Even a judicious hand rub could rub through the original paint. This is one of those cases that the least amount of effort maybe what's best for the car.
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I'm a little more forgiving of the direction that Ford took with the TBird. In 1958 it became the genesis for the whole Personal Luxury Car theme, which would become one of the hallmarks of US car manufacture for decades. I drive descendants of the "clunky" TBirds daily. In my 90's TBirds and Lincoln Mark Vlll's I find the comfort and utility that suites me.
This is where the groundwork was laid for some of the other cars that I love. I wonder if there would have been the impetus for two of my favorite cars in our collection-1963 and 1965 Buick Rivieras?
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I hate to say it, but I believe that I saw enough of this guy to make me wonder if he has a clue as to what he's doing. I only hope that he can get some help form some of the other Keller owners. Lucky that it's not the only survivor.
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I hope this doesn't offend anyone here. I have become enamored by this gal and what she does, what she knows and her attention to detail. She is not the fluff that you see on some of the "reality" shows. She knows her stuff and is more then willing to get her hands dirty. I know some of you car guys will be familiar with her YouTube channel work. The cars that she works on may not always be to your liking, but just try to remember that they didn't just stop making cars in 1972 and not everything good was made in America.
Sarah-n-Tuned-YouTube
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I apologize for sounding like a broken record, but...We are all car guys here. As such we all fall pray to styling and horsepower. I was guilty as the next guy in this regard. And to be honest I hope that I never loose my love for styling, albeit uniquely my own.
Around thirty years ago I began to see an occasional car, maybe a four door or a car, or a model that I would never have given a second look when it was new. I realized that I had not seen a similar car in decades. It was like I was looking at it for the first time. It seemed a miracle that it had survived. But by the grace of god, and the special circumstances that had led to it's survival, this car would have met the fate of over 99% of it siblings. It was at about that time that I began to ask the questions about the car, and the why, where, and by whom there had been an intervention into the natural order of things. I now look at all cars not just cars that I own and love.
Thankfully I no longer have the need to own every car that I see. Old age has a way of mellowing some of us. It allows me to enjoy the car and it's story. It's a much more peaceful existence. It's kind of like finally being able to see the forest for the trees. It's a great place to live, try it you might like it.
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Our world has changed a great deal over the last several decades. The car culture that we old timers grew up with has become become smaller as the general population has grown. The understanding an level of appreciation that we grew up to enjoy is just not found in the general population today. Believe me your truck is appreciated, it's just a case of the wrong audience.
I have a reasonably nice 1994 Ford F150 FWD pickup which is my occasional work truck. The original paint still shines and the interior is still nice. I don't consider it part of my collector car stable, but I'm routinely surprised by thumbs up when I least expect it. Like sitting in the public dump line. With "Bluford" it's all about the color. Everybody seems to be attracted to the original Calypso Blue original paint.
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As an old friend told me many years ago "if you have an itch you have to scratch it." Now admittedly I don't know how strong your urge to scratch it is. That's something only you can answer. It's an adage that I have always tried to honor. But it's only a part of the equation. If you can't afford to take the risk financially or emotionally don't do it. If things don't seem right walk away. There will be another car and another time.
I think that they are great cars. I would love to have one in my stable. Try to buy the best car that you can afford. Good luck!
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On 5/6/2023 at 5:57 AM, Xander Wildeisen said:
These pictures really show how much bigger that car is compared to modern cars. If the rear of the car was not over hanging the curb. The front would be a good three feet. Past the white lines marking the parking space. There are some parking lots that just would not have the space needed to maneuver that car in and out of.
The world has changed! The other day I drove my Lincoln Mark Vlll (not even close to the size of a 70's Mark) to breakfast at a popular eating place. The parking lot was full, but as I was pulling in to the lot a large pickup was exiting the lot. When I found the one parking spot that was vacant I began to wonder if the driver of the aforementioned PU had just pulled out of the spot or had just shunned the spot altogether. The spot was one of those really tight spaces. On one side of which was a big SUV, and on the other side was a large PU that was not centered properly between the lines.
Now the soul searching began. How nice were the two vehicles I would be parking between? Were they nice enough that I would trust parking my 30yo, original straight car, between them? I sat there for a few seconds sizing things up. I knew that I could get into the spot but could I get out of the two door car once I was in there? Since the other two cars were headed in, backing the car in would give me a little more room to get out. Backing would allow me to fudge a bit, but finally I decided to head in and let the chips fall as they may. I left the driver on my right a little room to open his door. Once in the parking spot I looked over to my left-what the hell did I just get myself in to? My drivers' door would only open about a foot. At 79 years old I'm not as nimble as I once was. What happens if I get half way out and get stuck! I could always try to exit the passenger side but that would require climbing over the trans. hump. I finally decided to just go for it! I'm sure it wasn't pretty and if there was a camera taking my picture someone could have gotten quite a laugh out of the whole process. But I survived and so did the car! Thing we seldom had to consider 40 years ago.
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The recent responses to this thread create more unanswered questions then they answer. I googled for a comparison of the rates by state and got only that there are 6 factors that determine what someone pays in a particular state, only one of which is where someone lives. It also stated that the average full coverage is $1592/yr. It didn't give me the range of rates. Is there a source that compares the rates by state or by local?
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All of this makes me wonder why anyone would want to buy a new car. But then who am I to talk, since I have never bought a new car and never intend to buy one either. I like driving an older car because it suites me to drive a car seldom seen on the road today. In addition I really hate the idea of overpaying for my transportation cars, when it's not necessary. All of the above just serves as a positive reinforcement for what I've been doing for the last 60+ years of driving. Thanks Ed!
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I thought that was the case in Washington also. Just a word to the wise consider checking to make sure that the plate number that you are trying to license your 1939 Chevrolet is not already on a 1935 Ford. They do not cross check year to year, YOM numbers when they they transfer title. I was told that there was no process in place that allows for cross checking from year to year. Once the plates are accepted at the satellite agency, they receives no more then a rubber stamp by state workers who seldom see YOM, and don't understand what could happen.