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Thanks, yes a open ended spoke wrench. Smaller than a 11/32. It needs to be 0.33. This is for my wire wheel project. I received my new spoke and nipples from Dayton. They said I need to buy the spoke wrench from Buchanan and then grind it to fit. That's what their truer's do. Buchananspokes.com sell the wrench ($29) and a torque wrench ($99). I am looking for a inexpensive torque wrench. I have a few socket type torque wrenches. The spoke wrench is fat and a regular open ended wrench won't work or a crows foot. They will just F up the nipples. Thanks Again Dave
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kaycee, thanks. I have regular torque wrenches for sockets. What I am looking for is a torque wrench for a handheld/ combination/open ended wrench. I need to torque wire wheel spokes that need a open ended wrench to do it.
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I need a torque wrench to use on a hand held wrench. Does anyone know where to buy one. What is it called? It has to torque 100 inch pounds.
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It been a month sense I dropped the 5 wheels in LA for chrome. Called and they will be done Wednesday (4-09-14). I now have stripped 3 more wheels and will drop them as I pick up the 5. The shop will also chrome 4 center caps and polish 4 stainless steel caps I have? The stainless steel ones are off a Eldorado and has the special center peace. The stainless steels spokes should be done this week as well. I also had a chance to build one more wheel out of used parts. I used the jig and true it up with the wheel balancer as before. So if all goes will I will end up with 4 restored wheel and a nice driver for the trunk of both car. The driver set now on my son's 61 will be sold. Here is the wheel re chromed and a before and after of a mirror base for $10.
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I have ordered the 320 stainless spokes and nipples from Dayton Wire wheels. I have the hubs and center at the chrome shop now and should be 3 weeks before done. I have now 10 wheels and center caps. I am restoring 8 and the spares will be cleaned up and keep as is. One set for the 61 and one for the 62. I will then sell the 4 nice origin set that is on the 61 now.
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Tried a few chrome shop on the San Diego area and received a $250 per wheel for the inter and outer hubs (no spokes). A shop that takes it to TJ wanted $275. Was referred to a shop in OC and called them. They said $60 outer and $40 per inter. I am going to take a 100 mile drive and see them. Will report back. On a side note had a really rusty wheel and was able to soak the spokes and nipple with Kroil oil for a week. Then used 2 11/32 wrenches side by side and brake the nipple loose. If one is really hard, stop and do the others then come back for the hard one. With the rest of the spokes loose it un binds the nipple from the rim and then I was able to unscrew the nipple.
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Ok, after months of messing with the wire wheels I think I know how it done. The 4 rows of spoke are different in length. They are about 1/8" difference and they looked the same by eye to me. I re laced them correctly now!
Laced one up from my jig and spun it on the wheel machine using a dial indicator.
Radial run out was 0.015 and the lateral run out was 0.025. The max for new steel rims are 0.040 and 0.045. The used repaired steel wheel calls for a max 0.060 and 0.065. I will now order the stainless spokes and nipples and give that a go. I still would like to know a torque setting and still trying to find a chrome shop to do the hubs.
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Work away at the wheels. I really need new spokes as the used test spokes are not the right length. I am running out of threads on the spokes.
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Update on the progress.
Used the jig to put the disassembled wheel together. The two rows of short spokes must be laced at the same time. The short spokes lock in to the center hub and must all be done all at once. You can not just replace one spoke in the KH without losing all them up and rotate the center hub about a inch. One single long spoke can be replaced with out losing all of them. I have never seen a long spoke broken. Only the short ones. The other important discover I made was the 4 rows (2 long rows and 2 short rows) of spoke look the same in length to the eye but are not the same. They are .25 difference in length. I am now trading spokes back and forth. You want to have the spoke end to be the same on all spoke nipples.
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Going to do a rough assemble on jig. Then take the wheel to the adult night auto school and put it on the spin balancer. Will then use a dial indicator.
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Here is the jig.
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Commodore, Thanks for the page you posted on 1999897 trumpet horn. Can you find anything on 1999925? May be a 1966 GM. I don't have any parts book to look at. Again Thanks You for the pages you posted. Dave
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I have never heard of a chevelle with a 21" trumpet horn. Did you find the number in a GM parts book? If so can you post the page? Thanks Dave
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I want to know what GM make and model uses the 925 Long Trumpet horn. This is a long trumpet horn, and not sure the application. This last 3 numbers on the stamped into the metal 925. The whole part # is Group # 2.810 Part # 1999925, which supersedes to 1999897. The horn including the bracket is 21 inches long. The 947 trumpet horn which I have is identical and I know it is for 1961-63 Cadillac. Any help to look it up in a GM parts book would be kind. Dave
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This is a real 1964 (only year) Eldorado Trumpet Horn for sale. It is stamped with the part # 896 12V. It is in very nice condition with no dents. It has it original mounting brackets. The one on the end and the one clamp it the middle. It works like it should. You will not find another one for sale unless someone is parting a 1964 Eldorado that has one, which is not likely. They made repop right hand mirror but never repoped the Trumpet Horn. Priced for that car that is missing the horn is $450. Or starts at $300. on eBay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161145917777?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649
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So after reading the back and fourths. I now want to know who took First place to began with? Did the call him and take it away or let him keep it and now there's two First place winner! I am glad the error was corrected! Dans car was outstanding!!!
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Kroil oil really worked on my very rusted 50 year old Kelsey Hayes spokes. I could not believe I did not brake one.
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Did a test wheel this weekend. I took one wheel and put kroil on the spokes let it soak for two day. Wow did that work. Removed every spoke. Now I am going to build a jig next weekend. More to follow. As always any ideas are great. Thanks Dave
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Called Buchanan spokes and spoke to Mr. Buchanan himself. He says about 50-60 lbs torque on the spokes. They stock the KH wheel spokes normally. Cost about $2.78-3.36 per Stainless Steel spoke and $2.34 per nipple. So about $5.50 per spoke at 40 spokes. $275 per wheels plus $66. to polish 40 spokes. I am going to take a few wheel apart and uses the best parts to restore one. I want to be sure my plan is workable and be sure I can true it up. Now it will be a few weeks of dismantling the wheels. I will report back! Thanks to all for the information to formulate a plan. Dave
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There is a spoke wrench made like a tubing wrench so that it engages with all 4 flats,,
Cheers,,Ben
Were did you get the wrench? I looked for a spoke wrench for the Kelsey Hayes but could not find one and did not even think one was made for it. I need one. Dave
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Are your 40 spokes KH? I did find out that you can not remove or install the short spoke with out loosening all spokes. You just can't replace one as they are locked in by the bend of spoke. When you say spoke wrench, what is it? I could not find a special wrench for the KH spokes. I am using a 11/32 open end wrench.
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No one makes a 40 spoke. The chrome outer and inter hubs are in nice condition. It's the spokes that are not that nice. I could clean them up but the first rain would grow rust again and I don't want that much work. So this is the game plan so far. Make a jig out of a 3/4" plywood board. Stake the outside hub and make a round post for inside hub. Clean nipples with wire brush. Use Aero Kroil oil for a few weeks. Remove all spokes on 7 wheels. Clean hubs. Find stainless steel spokes and nipples. Reassemble using anti seizure compound. Use dial gage for trueness. Did I miss something or any other ideas.
Help with what torque wrench to buy for a hand wrench.
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90* will work for torque value. But I need to use the spoke wrench do to it design. I can weld a old socket on the handle. I was hoping they made a torque wrench for open end tools.