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Had a long and informative talk with Jon (carbking) this afternoon. I'll let you know what happens with this and other problems in future posts.

I've watched Fantomworks a few times, and at least they have the guts to tell what they charged customers for the work they did. But the prices are astronomical for the work done. They did a 41 Buick and many of the closeup shots of the "restored" car showed rust and pitting on the interior parts. In another show they did a little bubble car for some poor woman who shelled out 36,000 bucks just for the restoration work (parts not included) and closeups of the "restored" car showed a dirty and pitted dash and steering column, a rusty ignition switch and a taillight with the worst chrome job I've ever seen held on by incorrect screws, and other shoddy work. Who in their right mind would advertise such substandard work on national television?

Carbking no longer rebuilds, he now manufactures and sells quality rebuilding kits. I will take him up on his offer and call him Monday afternoon to see if there is a solution to this problem.

It might work, but it's a bit tight in there. I'll ask carbking when I call him on Monday. Maybe he has a replacement part.

Well, the saga continues. With a bit of patience and some penetrating oil, I got the plunger in the accelerator out. The bore was full of rust and varnish and that was holding it in. Once that was out, I removed the float and went to work on the three items pictured below - I'm using these charts to ID parts... http://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/manuals/Carbs/Carter/BB-updraft/index.htm So I guess these three are the Step-up Valve Assembly, the Pump Valve Assembly and the Check Valve Assembly. Naturally, I ran into another problem. As you can see, the assembly to the right (Check Valve?) already had some damage to the top. As it always seems to go, the first two assemblies came out with no problem - just a bit of effort with a large screwdriver and they broke free. Ahhh...but why is it always the last one that's such a bugger? It stuck fast, and all I did, despite using a wide blade screwdriver and trying to be careful, was to tear up the top even more. So, what's next? This stuff seems delicate, so I don't think blasting a lot of heat in there is a good idea. I might be able to get a pair of vise-grips on it, but that's really going to tear up the part and I'm not sure if a new one of these is readily available down at the local NAPA. As always, suggestions are always welcome. I don't want to tear the poor thing up any more that I already have! Once I solve this, I'm sure the next catastrophe is right around the corner.

I also posted this in the Dodge Brothers Forum and got a quick response from carbking, so all is well and the two castings are now separated. I'm going to continue this in the Dodge Forum for those who are interested.

Thank you keiser31 and carbking - the pin is out and the castings are separated. Jon, I'll call you Monday, thanks for the offer. You rebuilt a carb for my 29 Plymouth back in the seventies and it's still going strong. RT

Working on my 32 DL and I'm attempting to rebuild my B and B Model 517S updraft carb and have run into a problem right from the get go. I have the three screws that hold the top casting to the lower casting. But when I try to separate them, the accelerator pump hangs up and won't come free. The brass piston is free and will move in the bore, but whatever is attached to the rod that passes through the brass piston and down into the bore seems fixed solid. I don't want to damage anything trying to force it out, In the picture below you can see the two castings separated, the brass piston and the rod that passes down into the bore. The rod will move down, but at a certain point it will not move up. Is there something attached to the rod that needs to be released? This is my first attempt at an updraft with a mechanical accelerator pump, so please excuse my ignorance.

I'm attempting to rebuild my B and B Model 517S updraft carb and have run into a problem right from the get go. I have the three screws that hold the top casting to the lower casting. But when I try to separate them, the accelerator pump hangs up and won't come free. The brass piston is free and will move in the bore, but whatever is attached to the rod that passes through the brass piston and down into the bore seems fixed solid. I don't want to damage anything trying to force it out, In the picture below you can see the two castings separated, the brass piston and the rod that passes down into the bore. The rod will move down, but at a certain point it will not move up. Is there something attached to the rod that needs to be released? This is my first attempt at an updraft with a mechanical accelerator pump, so please excuse my ignorance.

I looked through every source book I have. A company named Neff-Moon made toys with wheels like yours, but there is no evidence they ever made a fire engine. Turner did make some toys with very similar wheels, but as I said, the radiator isn't standard Turner fare. I have found over the years there are some toys that turned out to be very limited runs and just don't show up on the radar when you're trying to figure out who made them. I have a very nice English toy boat with a very unusual motor, and I know I once saw an ad for that very boat for sale on EBay (long before i obtained the boat), but I've never been able to find it again. It's stuff like this that drives you nuts! It still looks more like a Turner than anything else I've been able to find. Kingsbury made slightly smaller toys with white rubber tires, so I don't think it's a Kingsbury.

The slots in the side made me think of Schieble, but the wheels and radiator are wrong. The front looks Turner, but this has me stumped - never seen one quite like it.

We sent out the video of the meet I made for the club to all attendees some time ago - I hope everyone got theirs. I believe the Dodge Brothers Club still has some for sale if you missed the event. Some really nice "traveling" shots of the cars if I do say so myself, lots of interviews with car owners and coverage of each day's events.. My wife and I very much enjoyed meeting everyone and working on the video up in Detroit.

This commercial brought back memories of one of "the" stories in my family's history. I also posted this on my restoration thread. My great-grandfather, Charles Carolin, was a self-made man who came to Detroit from Windsor, Canada in the late nineteenth century. He became a prominent and very successful businessman in the then burgeoning Motor City, and owned one of the largest foundry and metal working plants in the city. He's the rather imposing gentleman in the center of this family portrait taken around 1908. That's my grandmother in the lower left, his favorite whom he always called Baby. Charles was a rich, stubborn, no nonsense guy. I'm sure he'd be an avid watcher of Bill O'Reilly if he was alive today. He was most upset when local ordinances forced him to give up his horses, and he absolutely refused to buy one of the newfangled automobiles, preferring to walk to work. One day a gentleman arrived at the foundry with a proposition: if my great-grandfather would mass produce certain parts for his new enterprise, he would offer Charles ten percent of his company. My great-grandfather viewed this offer with much skepticism - this skinny entrepreneur was making his third or forth try at starting a (gasp) automobile company; he had no money, thus the ten percent offer; his credit was not just bad - it was terrible, and it's said that Charles Carolin did not particularly care for the looks of this eager young man. Charles turned down the offer - cash only was the only way he would deal. Thus the young man, whom I'm sure you've guessed by now was Henry Ford, eventually went to the Dodge Brothers for his parts and my great-grandfather gave up what would have been a massive family fortune. True story, but since the Dodge brothers designed many of Ford's parts and loaned him money to get things rolling, I doubt that any relationship between Charles and Henry would have been productive. In fact, I believe it would have led to another failure for Ford and much satisfaction for Charles Carolin. Later, Charles - who was also a ardent pacifist - refused to manufacture munitions for the government during World War One. There went another couple of hundred-millions. It's the reason I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to afford the chrome plating on my 32 DL rather than bidding on a Duesenberg at the latest Scottsdale auction. Thanks Grandpa Carolin! 1932 Dodge DL Sedan Edit Post Reply Reply With Quote

On another thread in this forum they are discussing a Dodge Brothers commercial currently running - the one with the two Dodge brothers quitting working for Ford and going out on their own to produce the Dodge Brothers automobile. This brought back memories of one of "the" stories in my family's history. My great-grandfather, Charles Carolin, was a self-made man who came to Detroit from Windsor, Canada in the late nineteenth century. He became a prominent and very successful businessman in the then burgeoning Motor City, and owned one of the largest foundry and metal working plants in the city. He's the rather imposing gentleman in the center of this family portrait taken around 1908. That's my grandmother in the lower left, his favorite whom he always called Baby. Charles was a rich, stubborn, no nonsense guy. I'm sure he'd be an avid watcher of Bill O'Reilly if he was alive today. He was most upset when local ordinances forced him to give up his horses, and he absolutely refused to buy one of the newfangled automobiles, preferring to walk to work. One day a gentleman arrived at the foundry with a proposition: if my great-grandfather would mass produce certain parts for his new enterprise, he would offer Charles ten percent of his company. My great-grandfather viewed this offer with much skepticism - this skinny entrepreneur was making his third or forth try at starting a (gasp) automobile company; he had no money, thus the ten percent offer; his credit was not just bad - it was terrible, and it's said that Charles Carolin did not particularly care for the looks of this eager young man. Charles turned down the offer - cash only was the only way he would deal. Thus the young man, whom I'm sure you've guessed by now was Henry Ford, eventually went to the Dodge Brothers for his parts and my great-grandfather gave up what would have been a massive family fortune. True story, but since the Dodge brothers designed many of Ford's parts and loaned him money to get things rolling, I doubt that any relationship between Charles and Henry would have been productive. In fact, I believe it would have led to another failure for Ford and much satisfaction for Charles Carolin. Later, Charles - who was also a ardent pacifist - refused to manufacture munitions for the government during World War One. There went another couple of hundred-millions. It's the reason I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to afford the chrome plating on Daphne rather than bidding on a Duesenberg at the latest Scottsdale auction. Thanks Grandpa Carolin!

The sixties - I lost a lot of perfectly good brain cells during that decade!

I realized today that it was fifty years ago that I first bought Daphne. Now I'm more determined than ever to get her on the road this year as an anniversary present to myself. Here she is on the front lawn of the Delt House in 1965. For some reason I had temporarily taken the front bumper off - I have no recollection why.

Pictures like this keep me moving ahead on the restoration. Photos previous owner (and Dodge Brothers Club Magazine Editor) Phil Kennedy sent me awhile ago. This is how I remember her - minus the sealed beams and the missing sidemounted spare.

Thanks for the compliments everybody. Part Three coming soon.

Part Three coming soon.

I'm having three parts made for my 32 DL Sedan - The battery box, the rear tailpipe hanger (the one with the H-shaped rubber connector) and the tool box (the V-shaped metal box that sits inside the X-member of the frame.) All three are being made to the exact specifications of the original parts. If anyone is interested in these parts, I can have one made for you. The more my guy makes, the cheaper the part will be. As he says, the first one is the expensive one as he has to make patterns and figure out how to manufacture the part. If anyone is interested, let me know. Once I have a number, we can figure out the final price. He is also making me a set of running boards, so if you need a set, let me know. All these parts seem to be very prone to rusting, with the exception of the exhaust hanger which simply seems to disappear. I know the 32 is kind of a rare year, but some of you out there may need these parts. Just PM me if I can help. RT

One small correction - on page two I state that "all four shocks are the same." This is not technically correct. All four shocks are the same internally, but there is a left and a right casting for the main body of the shock. They are not interchangeable from side to side. I've revised the page to indicate this. And, yes, Scotts_DG8, there will be a part two soon.

AACA friendly or not, it looks good, Binger. I discovered that once I had on a coat of primer, the surface of the shocks looks pretty good. As you said, they retain the "cast" look and turned out much smoother than I expected. I notice your shocks have that screw or relief valve bolt on the back of the shock. Mine don't have that feature, which surprises me as the Dodge was a pricier car than the Chevy. Anyway, I have four new ones from the rebuild kit if you need them, just to say thanks for directing me to the Filling Station.