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    1930 DC 8 restoration

    in Dodge & Dodge Brothers

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    4 hours ago, McCargar said:

    If anyone is interested in my take on my 1930 DC 8 Coup Convertible restoration project you can view it at 

     http://mccargar.com/1930Dodge.pdf

    Beautiful work, very nice convertible coupe.  Read how you had to re-construct the rumble seat channel, could you advise how you 'sealed' the rear end of the lid?  If it is like my 34 PE convertible coupe and like Porsche68's 34 Dodge rumble seat coupe, the channel cannot go all the way down the side because it has to allow the lid to pass when it is being opened or closed.  In addition, the horizontal seam at the very rear of the body at the edge of the rumble lid doesn't seem to have anything to stop water intrusion at that point.  Can you advise how you addressed those issues?  Thanks.  SMB

    1933 Plymouth Woody??

    in Plymouth

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    OK, this is a new one to me.  I have always been told/read that 1934 was the first year for a Plymouth 'woody', known as a Westchester Semi-Sedan Suburban, built by U.S. Body and Forging Co. on a 34 PE 'Deluxe Plymouth' chassis.  For some time I have had the original brochure from USB&F, a copy of which is attached.  All of the authorities say it was the first, including articles by Plymouth Club 34 expert Jim Benjaminson, 'The Plymouth and DeSoto Story' by Don Butler (see page 69), and Tod Fitch's excellent website, 'Plymouth The First Decade'.  Apparently only 35 were built, with none known to have survived.  You can see one in the Bettie Davis classic 'Dark Victory', dropping them off at their snowy Vermont cabin (although I'll bet it was filmed at the local, southern California Lake Arrowhead, probably still in a barn up there somewhere... .)

     

    Now I have run across an almost identical USB&G brochure but showing the use of the "new Plymouth '6' chassis", which looks like a 33 PC (or perhaps 33 PD) front end.  Were they actually building these in 33 as well?  Butler's work hints at the distinction by saying 34 marketing was directly through Plymouth with 'earlier years' done through the dealer network.  I have attached a copy of the '33' brochure as well for comparison.  Anybody have any further information on this/clarification?  I doubt any of the 33 models have survived either, see a 34 Dodge once in awhile but never a Plymouth.

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    What ever happened to that car in the driveway on Elm street

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    19 hours ago, keiser31 said:

    Not a neighborhood legend, but when I moved to San Diego I used to drive out Rosecrans Blvd. to Point Loma. I used to see one of these 1959 Facel Vegas sitting in a driveway. It was REAL different looking and I knew about the fact that there were only 60 built of this particular model in 1959. It was a slightly off-white color with a slight surface rust on the top, hood and trunk lid. Saw that thing there for YEARS until I went there one day with my architect boss to try to buy it for an investment. It was gone! Never saw it again.

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    I live in the Point and I also remember that car!  Last time I saw it was parked next to the old Chevron station at the corner of Nimitz and Harbor Drive.  Disappeared from there and never saw it again.  Station itself is gone now.

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    1934 Dodge DR Convertible Coupe - The Phantom

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    9 hours ago, Buffalowed Bill said:

    The cars remind me of the car in the Robert Mitchum/Jane Greer Film Noir Classic "Big Steal." If memory serves me the car was a Chrysler, but I couldn't find any pictures to verify. Filmed in Mexico the car was involved in some pretty thrilling chase scenes in some very primitive conditions. Sorry to highjack the thread but I thought some of you guys might like to see a similar car in action. 

    Very similar car in 'Big Steal' but from the movie trailer (the only part I could locate), looks more like a 35 Buick convertible coupe, doors are not suicide like the 34 Mopars.  Both of the 34 Dodges in this thread are gorgeous.  Love the 34s, wouldn't trade my 34 PE convertible coupe for anything.  These Mopars are some of the best of 34, a year when almost every manufacturer made beautiful cars.

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    Unique Classic Cars, Mankato, MN--Anybody know these guys?

    in General Discussion

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    49 minutes ago, Bills Auto Works said:

    I transported a car for a customer who purchased it from there a couple of years ago. The place was nice & the folks were helpful. I took a quick look around & they seemed to have some quality cars for sale. No actual purchases from them though.

     

    God Bless

    Bill

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/nationwide-single-car-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/

     

    Bill--

    Thanks for the prompt response.  If I end up purchasing, will give you a yell for closed transport estimate.  I am in San Diego, California, not sure if you get out this way.  Come for a visit, we have a great zoo and a decent automobile museum close by the zoo.  SMB 

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    Your vintage car accident?

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Happens to the best of us.  I had a small Toyota run a red light in 1992 and I T-boned him in the middle of the intersection with my 34 Plymouth.  Hit him dead on the driver's side front axle and knocked him quite a ways.  I tromped on the brakes as soon as I saw him but couldn't stop in time--my Plymouth stood up on its nose so hard from the braking and impact that my rear 'silent U' spring shackles flipped over.  Thanks to the late Mike Smith, I was able to get the front end parts (fenders, grille, etc.) that are still on the car today.

     

    The attached photo is of a 34 PE Convertible Coupe driven by President Roosevelt's son that was involved in a crash, I believe with a street car.  Happens to the best of us.

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    The Car Culture is Alive and Well.....Just Different

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Walt G, as usual, hit the nail right on the head.  Yes, most 'cars and coffee' are mostly newer cars but it is important that those of us with gray/no hair get our older cars out there to be seen.  Every time I have shown up with my '34 there has been at least one younger person for whom that is a first experience with a truly old car and who expressed an interest in getting into that part of the hobby.  Can't expect them to get into older stuff if they never have a chance to see some.  Last cars and coffee I went to was a pretty good mix albeit mostly 60s and newer but the guy that brought out his '29 Packard roadster had a crowd of young and old around his (admittedly gorgeous) car all morning.  Car guys (and gals) are car guys, be it rice rockets or sleeve valve cars.  We are all ambassadors for the hobby so do your part to keep it going.  Maybe you will also find a new interest area. (That Honda bike from the '60s shown above brought back lots of memories!!)

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    Anyone Here Ever Won A Car?

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    Indirectly my family benefitted from one, which was a brand new 1968 Thunderbird won by a friend of my father.  As a result that family didn't need their 'old' 1965 Dodge Dart GT, which they sold cheaply to my father. Gold with a light tan interior, 225 slant six, that was perhaps the best car my family ever owned and I learned to drive in it.

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    Original steel wheels, or reproduction.

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    I have had several 1934 Plymouth artillery wheels show cracks around the lug holes but thankfully have caught them either at time of purchase or during use but before complete failure.  These were manufactured, I believe, originally by the Motor Wheel company in 16 and 17 inches.  Note that these 34 wheel centers are 10-hole (the 17s are 12 hole) and are manufactured in a two-piece, 'sandwich' fashion, i.e., the lug bolt holes are on an inner plate that is sandwiched at the outer edge with the outer 'skin' portion of the wheel and at each of the individual 'artillery-wheel' holes, 10 of them.  I have since gone with 35 Plymouth rims, also in 16 inches, but made of a single stamping, and have never had a single one crack.  From the outside they look virtually identical when the hubcap is on.  Due to the manner in which the hubcaps attach (via clips riveted to the wheel center as opposed to clips on the hubcap into the outer skin of the 34 wheels), need to run 35 hubcaps.  Only visual difference is the stripe placement on the hubcaps is slightly different on the 35 caps (closer to the center of the cap) and there are slight detents in the 35 rim centers to facilitate screwdriver or small pry bar to remove the caps.  As my grandfather used to say, a man riding by on a crocheted bicycle is never going to notice the difference.  Small price to pay for avoiding the cracking found on the 34 'two piece' rims. Photos below of a 34 v. 35 rim, front and backsides, Motor Rim Stamp and a derelict 34 PE coupe I sold some time ago with original 34 rims. NOTE: There is a difference in the backspacing on these rims, the 34 being about 2 3/8" and the 35 being 3", so you need to calculate this into any interchange of rims.

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    Non-use of protective gear on TV car shows.

    in General Discussion

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    Having spent many years during a prior career in the engine room alongside screaming, turbocharged EMD-645-20 main engines (20 cylinders, 645 cubic inches per cylinder), I owe my excellent hearing today to always having worn proper hearing protection.  Many of my fellow ex-chief engineers now have significant hearing loss due to not having worn hearing protection.  I found fairly quickly that the large, 'ear muff' type protection was cumbersome to use, couldn't be carried around your neck so they were always there, so I opted (at the suggestion of another engineer) for the shooting-type ear plugs shown below, which are easily available at most gun stores and even Home Depot, etc.  When not in use they could easily be worn around the neck, the plastic tube flexing so that you hardly knew you had them on.  Motto of the story:  Easy to protect yourself with safety glasses/hearing protection/etc. if you just give it a moment's thought.  Seems like sight and hearing are worth that moment's thought.

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