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The 389 Tri-Power was not produced past 1965. Exactly 500 GPs were built with a stick in 1970 (179 were 3-speeds). 485 1970 GTOs were built with the RAIII/AC/stick combination, which includes Judges. Both stats courtesy of Fred Simmonds. Chevrolet didn't keep these kinds of records, especially by color. Car still exists in Michigan. It's verified as being the only 4-speed Country Squire built, not to mention a Q-code 428. 664 1971 Challengers were built with the 318/manual tranny combo. This is for US-spec cars only. You are using 1969 production for a 1968 car, and Chrysler didn't keep info on colors for 1969; for 1968, only buffed silver seems to be recorded. I am in agreement with you as I inferred the same thing about what "rarest production car" is. In regards to your Polara, records compiled by Darrell Davis shows 1,862 Polara two-door hardtops were built.

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Yeah, I've seen that thread too, but the problem is that car ran in more than one class, so I can't determine which records it set, what years, and in which configuration? - C/SA - F/SA - more? And which sanctioning body?

Thanks . . . yes, I saw that thread, but there's some questions that I need answered that the thread doesn't address. I know some of the posters so I've already been through this with them but perhaps I should post in the thread.

Hi.....currently researching some "Jet-Thrust" Studebakers that were raced in 1963-64. Specifically, I'm trying to find concrete info on at least two cars, but there's a lot of conflicting info. One of them was "The Whistler" which was campaigned by a Phoenix dealership. Another was Gordon Williams' Lark that he raced for a San Bernadino dealership. The conflicts I'm facing are: - Unclear on which Winternationals were records being set? 1963 or 1964 or both? - Unclear on which Winternationals is being described, as both NHRA and AHRA had their own. - Unclear on the configurations of the vehicles, as it seems Williams' car was initially raced as an R1 and then as an R2 (and possibly R3), but not sure which configuration(s) made it in the record books. I know several Studebaker folks who are very knowledgable (and, yes, I have perused the club's forum), but connecting the dots has been a challenge. If there's a more appropriate sub-forum for this, please let me know - thanks!

Thanks . . . just passed this along.

Thanks . . . I actually hadn't thought of that but, as a member, I think their focus leans towards post-1950s stuff. Still, I know they have a subforum for this era stuff, so gracias for the nudge!

For what it's worth, CJ Mach Is are not exactly rare. Painting it in a non-stock color won't be the end of the world.

A friend is restoring a 1958 Bonneville and is at wits end trying to find air suspension parts. Two guys he's tried already is this Bonneville Joe character in TX and Rich Plastino, an owner of a parts company. I figured I would post for him here and see if there are any AACA members with any leads. My friend said the other GM brands that had air suspensions had slightly different designs, but I imaging there must be some commonality? If you know some of these commonalities and it's worth it to post in the Brand X forums, please give me that nudge....thanks!

I dunno - suggesting that sales are a true indicator of the popularity of a car is like saying Mariah Carey is the best singer ever because of her record sales. It's a fact that GM was taken aback by Exner's creations, and the buff books agreed that the Plymouth was out of this world. The public? They agreed too, with model-year production up by approximately 125k units. Chevrolet was down approx 60k. Aside of marketing, Chevrolet had a much larger dealer network than Plymouth, which certainly helps someone who is merely interested in personal transportation like your typical Consumer Reports reader.

I can see I'm not the only one who has trouble with this. Reminds me of a discussion in a general forum where someone said, "The Eldorado Brougham that [this person] describes is a sedan (or at the very least a four door coupe)," and then, when I corrected him, responded: At that point, I officially became old.

Gentlemen, I appreciate your responses, but I think you're overthinking it. Are facelifts, restyles, and redesigns distinct? Here's another example: 1968 Road Runner>facelifted for 1969>restyled for 1970>redesigned for 1971 Another one: 1968 GTO>facelifted for 1969>restyled for 1970>facelifted for 1971>facelifted for 1972>redesigned for 1973 Yes or no?

Hi....I was curious about the use of the above terms. To use a generic car as an example - sorry, Chevy guys - how would you characterize this? 1955>facelifted for 1956>facelifted for 1957>redesigned for 1958 But I can also see someone saying: 1955>1956 facelift>1957 restyle>1958 redesign What's the general consensus how cars evolved within and beyond generations? I'll just sit back and enjoy the can of worms.

Hi . . . I was taking care of a friend's dog in West Hollywood, so this recent LA transplant took the opportunity to walk along Sunset Boulevard. I found this 1941 Buick in a gas station and had to take a look. Noting the Mexican plates, I took a look inside and saw the speedo was in kilometers. Wow! I chatted with the proprietors and they said it was a friend's and it was a '38 (I corrected them). I then asked them if I could take some pics. They were very willing and I was very thankful for that because, y'know, sometimes people can be weird (as well as people like me having ulterior motives). They told me the same guy owned the 1955 Cadillac on the lot and yes, the speedo was in kmh as well - cool! I sent the pics to my friend (who's a member here), who told me the following: The Century is a bit of a mystery. Officially, it does not seem to be a factory export model, because the body number is too high...only 109 Model 61X four-door sedans were made, while 15,027 non-export were built. The data plate is bent down, concealing the model number, which would be 61X for an export car, 61 for a regular Century. The style number, 41-4609 is correct for the series and model. The GM export situation is rather confusing. There were cars built for export and sold through the export organization, but there were also cars exported that did not for one reason or another go through the export sales company. This must be one of those cars. There were also Canadian Buicks, but they were still produced by GM of Canada and were technically McLaughlin Buicks. (There is a possibility they did not build the large series models, though, so this could still be a car built in the US for the Canadian market.) The kilometer speedometer is incredibly cool! The data plate has the correct rivets, but the serial number strip should be attached differently...not with screws. The number, however, is a 1941 Flint-built Buick number and looks to me like it falls generally in the early months of the model year range, which would be consistent with the body number. The color code 571 is for English Green, which the car apparently remains. He then followed up with this: Just one more thought on the '41 Century...it might have been assembled in Mexico. Attached is part of a story from GM World magazine about the GM assembly operation there in 1940. Sub-assemblies and parts were shipped from the US in crates with assembly finished in the plant. These cars may have had regular Fisher Body plates, or not. Almost certainly, the Century was at least ordered through the GM de Mexico operation. However, look at the Cadillac's data plate. Strange, eh? Here's what my friend said: The Cadillac with the blank data plate is also a mystery. It looks like there might be another plate the left of it that might have some addition info? The blank data plate kind of rings a bell...I think I've read about another Cadillac that had such a plate. On the other hand, the rivets are non-standard and one is in the wrong place, making me think the plate may have been added after production. It may be there simply to legally prove the car was produced in the US, with the other info being not relevant. A few Cadillac were still sold new outside of the US at the time. I know an elderly guy who worked for Cadillac as a regional manager for the Caribbean area in this period... Anyone can help with insight beyond my equally enthusiastic friend?

It's a guy's that I met. He's a resto-mod guy so that's this car's fate unless he changes his mind. He has some other projects as well including a 1935 Caddy V8 and a 1933 Buick and a 1932 Studebaker St. Regis. Most are in the Victoria style.

Thanks for your response - here it is.

Tailfins & Bowties, Chevrolet: Production Figures & Options Totals - By The Book (1953-1989) Len Williamson, 1990, 2 Volumes ISBN 0-9622724-3-4 Not sure how accurate the above info is. Thank you!

Recently saw this car, which is the same one that appeared in Bonnie and Clyde. What's a good resource to find production numbers on this vehicle? Thanks!

The AACA library in Hershey has a bunch, if not all of 'em. Check out their website to see what it'll cost ya.

I'm having deja vu of an Israeli car, but not from the rear.