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  1. The story on how this exact car inspired the 1963 split window Corvette http://www.superchevy.com/features/1812-origins-iconic-1963-corvette-sting-ray-split-window/?fbclid=IwAR0JCyQC7GsPwpXPAvFwCXTul44Gq9Lv7fDcOmzESQD-xiiJ0t-7kpe4QQo
  2. I agree. They only needed a futuristic roof to put on the XP-87 and they went back in time to get one. I am sure that they did their homework as David Holls was very familiar with the Adler car, the designer and the history, Including being designed by Paul Jaray with the use of the Messerschmidt wind tunnel. Jaray's designs were also pirated for the Chrysler Airflow. Having a roof design that had already been wind tunnel tested may have appealed to them too. I had emailed you the GM Tech center photos because I thought you would get a kick out of them.
  3. I know this is an old thread, but the topic of this Adler being the inspiration for the 1963 Split Window Corvette has been revived. I recently saw the attached article by noted author and illustrator K. Scott Teeters. After reading his article and knowing that he had come to this conclusion all on his own without knowing anything about my story, I reached out to him to offer him what I knew. He was excited about the prospect of having been right all along and is now in the process of publishing a new story about the connection. In doing his research, he reached out to GM Heritage and they
  4. These photos were taken in the fall of 1989 when I went back to purchase the car from Rubin. The car is sitting in the exact same spot, it's just that the leaves have fallen revealing the car. You can also see the light blue paint described in earlier posts by Rubin's relatives. Can you imagine the excitement of locating and retrieving this car! It was a great moment. One I relived recently after locating and obtaining the 1931 Pierce Arrow land speed record race car this year. If the current owner is interested, I have an original letter from Baron Fritz Hueske Von Hanstein, the driver of
  5. I know this is an old thread, but I came across these negatives I had from back when I found this car in the yard in Southfield Michigan. These are the photos in the summer of I believe 1989 with Rubin showing me the car. When I had first seen the car in the late 70's it was in a shed at the rear of the property but the city made him remove the shed so he shoved the car off to the side under a tree.
  6. Yes. it is the same car during the period when the car was stolen from Rubin. The police recovered the car and brought it back to him. The owner of the gas station had at first offered to sell the car to the people that took the photos but got cold feet when they came over to the station with the money because he did not have a title. Here are three photos of the car while there at the gas station where you saw it...
  7. Another lead has surfaced that this car was exhibited for a time at Bill Tutthill's Museum of Speed in Daytona in the 70's. It may have been owned by Harry Doan who had it stored there. The museum was closed in the 70's. anybody happen to see it or photograph it there??
  8. The other lead that has surfaced is that the car was owned by Ralph "Pappy" Hankinson of Orange City from the late thirties until his death in 1942. The car was supposedly stored in the basement of the Orange City hotel in Orange City which was owned by Hankins...on and was also his residence when he wasn't in Pennsylvania or New York. Perhaps that explains the Pennsylvania Rubber co. tires on the car? Hankinson was a racing promoter and is in the National Sprint Car Hall of Fame. "Pappy" was also a part of the AAA, the same organization that timed and officiated the speed trials. After his d
  9. The car is now on Yahoo newsgroups as the car that "stumped the internet"! lol The Pierce-Arrow also... two potential histories of the car have emerged.... The first is the Tucker story. There was a lead claiming it may have been built by Preston Tucker. Tucker was a regional manager for Pierce Arrow from 1931-1933 and had moved to Indianapolis to be near the
  10. No. What I am saying is that from looking at this article, and from examining this car, it appears the same type of construction was used in both cars. My guess is that the Pierce was built before 1941 since everything so far on the car has been dated previous to that. The other car appeared in the article about 1941.
  11. Yes, it is posted over on Landspeed. They mostly focus on 1936 to current when the land speed attempts moved over from the Daytona area to Bonneville. My thinking is that when the move to Bonneville occurred, this car was left behind perhaps without enough funding or inclination to take it out west to run it. In 1989 the previous owner was shown a photograph of this car running on the beach. I think there were still people using the beach to go fast and test even after the big show left town. I agree about it not having set any records. I just a) know it was purpose built to attempt one of th
  12. Another interesting little tidbit..... This looks like it may also be the first plastic bodied car.... Here is a link to a Popular Mechanics article about a car built in 1941 using the exact same technique as this car was built using. On the Pierce the stainless mesh is still in place covered by the Ethyl Cellulose. There are even 3 inch striations on the body work from the special caulk gun used to apply the body in layers just like what is shown in the 1941 article. Nothing Earth shattering.... just interesting. I wonder if the car was built to showcase the "new" plastic product? Popular Mec
  13. The car was supposedly purchased in the Ormond Beach area in 1988/89. It has been verified to be in that area during that time at the 1989 Turkey Rod run just after the previous owner bought it. I have conflicting reports that it was also located in the Orlando area for some period of time but I have no proof of that. I have been in touch with virtually everyone who knows cars in the Daytona/Ormond Beach area and searched the local archives at the Halifax Museum. There will also be several articles coming out about the car in the Daytona area within the next week or so which will hopefully spa
  14. REWARD: THERE IS A $100 REWARD TO BE PAID TO THE FIRST PERSON THAT CAN PROVIDE A PERIOD PHOTOGRAPH OF THIS CAR OR VERIFIED PROOF OF THE BUILDER OR ANY RACE HISTORY FOR THIS CAR! While not enough to get rich researching this car, it is enough to make the search a little more fun knowing that you were able to beat out every other car expert on the planet for bragging rights as "researcher extraordinaire" over every expert stumped by this car over the last month. I have also started a Facebook page for the car where I will be posting details of the car and of course the winner. https://www.fac
  15. I finally got around to checking the tires on the car. All four are flat and very dry rotted and literally falling apart but the tread looks very deep on all four as if the tires were never used. The two rear tires are a matched pair of Goodyear Heavy Duty tires from the 30's. The two front tires are "Cincher" tires made by Pennsylvania Rubber Company. The Pennsylvania Tire company stopped making tires in just before WWII, so all four tires are pre-war. The two rear Goodyear's are wider than the front tires. I thought the Pennsylvania Rubber co. tires were interesting and indicate a pre-war bu
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