Ed Nieves

You may want to remove it and clean the contacts inside.

I see your point and yes, all systems have pros and cons.

I understand what you are saying, but let me share with you my experience as a NCRS (National Corvette Restorer Society) Master Judge and that's not to say that the AACA should adopt the same method. Since being a judge for approximately 10 years with the NCRS, I have never seen a member complain about their scores. We go over the judging sheet with the owner on the spot and show them where any deductions were made. We also take the time to point it out on the car. Since there is complete transparency, owners don't generally argue about what is factual and evident. Yes, sometimes (and it's the rare exception) we have an owner that will appeal to the team leader (if they disagree with something) and the team leader will address the matter. If the owner is still not satisfied, they can then appeal to the head national judge. The head judges' word is final. Rarely does the latter happens though. At the end of the day, if someone with the AACA does not get the award they competed for and receives a copy of their judging sheet (as they are entitled to) they can still complain about the deductions on the judging sheet. So, my point is that "complainers" will always find something to complain about. It's human nature.

Thank you, Sir. I will be willing to volunteer and help in any way I can.

Steve don't get me wrong, I'm a big supporter of the AACA and I appreciate all the work that the volunteers do. I just think that the judging sheets should be made available to any member who has their car judged (at the very least, a copy of the sheet outlining any deductions). Personally, I just don't see the harm in it. The latter would be a tool that a member can use to improve their score/car even though they received the award they competed for. There is always room for constructive criticism on behalf of the judges via a judging sheet. I do realize that sometimes policies remain in effect because that's just the way things have always been done. In spite of this issue, I still encourage people to join the AACA and I personally have always had a positive experience during all the meets I have entered. Thanks for your thoughts.

Thanks Steve. That's awesome that we will have an indoor venue. Hopefully, it will work out.

Any update on this?

Thanks for sharing.

I posed this question the other day and Steve indicated that they were having a Board meeting soon to discuss this issue. I guess the first order of business is to see which chapter/club wants to host it. My guess is that it will fall somewhere in the middle part of the country. God willing, we will be there.

Not complaining about his response, just expected some consistency with past practices. It's all good.

Maybe the V.P. of judging can have like a administrative assistance that can help them. I understand, your point when there is no deductions. After getting my First Grand National Award in Virginia Beach, I just requested a copy of my judging sheet as a mere formality (as I have done in the past). I guess the no score divulging rule has been around for a long time, but personally, I don't see what the big deal is. A car owner would have to understand that the car may score differently at a different meet. However, it should be within a close range of the previous judging score, if the car was judged correctly. I do respect Stan's rationale for his decision. If the sheet reveals no deductions, I guess they can just leave it blank. Technically, it's not releasing a score, sort of speaking.

You car You are absolutely correct. In the past I have always received a redacted copy of the judging sheet from Mr. Oakes and Mr. Crane. Stan would not provide me a copy and he cited the guideline rule. It makes more sense to provide members a redacted copy upon request. The policy should be revisited and updated to benefit the member.

I was told recently by Stan ( the current judging V.P.) that this request only applies to cars that don't receive their award they competed for. I was recently denied a copy of my sheet.

I think you raised a valid point.

Thank you.