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Bud Tierney

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  1. If you haven;t found or fab'd your valves yet, there're at least a couple outfits that turn new valves from blanks and/or an old valve in the "sponsors" section of smokstak.com... Click on "sponsors" on home page and they'll come up...
  2. Can't add anything definitive...interesting question... I have very little that goes back that far...primarily a 1917 Burd Hi-Comp Ring Co catalog covering mainly 1914-17 but some older...it's set up by ring size/number, each size followed by cars/trucks/tractors/engines taking that size... Hudson #20 1908-10 is listed with a 4cyl 33/4 bore with pistons taking 4 3/16" rings 1911=12 #33 shows 4cyl 4" bore taking 4 1/4" rings...not that many makes etc listed used 4 ring pistons... 1913 #37 4cyl and #54 6cyl show 41/8 bore first using 4 1/4" rings, then dropping to 3 rings, if I'm interpreting the listing correctly... Conde's Hudson book refers to Buda without any specific dates, only saying engines were all Cont'l by late 1911... Those bore/ring combinations were all popular combinations, listings including various Budas and other engines... Interestingly, the 33/4-3/16 list includes Budas Q and QM 1913 as 4 rings (other Budas with three, the "standard")... The 4"-1/4 list has no matching Buda, but does show Cont'ls A and M as 4 rings, but no years and no stroke in my Cont'l list, nor does anything I have show any purported introduction dates... One other catalog (1933 Perf Circle rings) lists the QU as 1912-23. 33/4 with 4 3/16 rings, while two other catalogs list it as 1913--(no ring info) ... The Q series seems to've run Q, QM, QM3, QU, a possible QU2, and a posible QQU, altho that could've been a misprint for "Q-QU" or "Q,QU", used to show both engines available or that the QU replaced the Q... I only have one stroke, for the QU, as 51/2, pencilled into my list, source not noted... It'd be interesting to see a Buda Q, QU or QM next to a Hudson... Don't follow Hudson, but in my earlier years owned 36 4dr, 34 Terrapieces/Terriblepain 4dr with the axleflex and a 35 coupe, all sweet running cars...in later years my brother (gone on to his reward, if any) ran thru a 46 6, a 50 Commodore? 8 and two or three 53-54? 7Xs... Had to watch the 36 in the winter; slush'd freeze the tie rod where it went thru the front axle stabilizers; the 7Xs seemed to need heavier u-joints, generally needed 2-3 sets before the cars smashed up in alcoholic exuberance...
  3. Can't comment on 31, but Motor Manual 35-46 valve guides sez: when new guides taper .001 to the inch...larger diam to top (allows for expansion) Fit should be that valve just falls thru guide by its own weight... If too loose, new guides, straight holes, should be reamed accordingly... Says to measure from top of guide not yet removed to top of block; install new to same dimension (no comments re' cooling to shrink, tapping, hammering) Aware this's useless for you, posted in case your 31 had such kooky matters to watch for......
  4. Don't have my sources list at hand, but check the Vendors and Restoration Services section on justoldtrucks---they've got a list there... If it's helpful. a 1936 catalog sez your exh valve is the sane as Lincoln 1920-27 all to Eng #45570, both E/I 28-30 all after eng #46890 Exh only... Your Intake is the same as Lincoln 1926-28 all engine #45570 to 46890 Int only 1928-30 all after eng #46890 Int only...also 1932 201 and 501, Int only Valves are probably the easiest part to fab from blanks; a number of shops do the work...
  5. As mentioned, diamondtclassics seems to've fallen on hard times, a real shame... You might try checking out ATHS---American/Antique?? Truck Historical Society Justoldtrucks....altho both heavily concentrated in more modern stuff, still good resouces for info/other DT owners, AND justoldtrucks has a parts rebuilder, parts restorer, parts sources list in their Vendors and Restorers section... The Antique Car/Truck forum on smokstak... There's another very small site: antiquetruckclubofamerica, but, like the above, free, so why not??... DT was involved with Reo for awhile (DiamondReos); I know the Reo club include anything Reo, trucks included, but don't know if they've tried to include older DTs to compensate for the DT website mouldering...
  6. Since I didn't run those makes thru the Std cat or Mroz, to see how many had 1-2-3 year lives, and have no prod figures to tell how many of the particular models using the 7R-8R were produced,it's hard to tell how many were actually produced, altho the long production run (1916-17? to very late 20s? for the 7R) is a good sign... Assuming you have the rest of the starter, keep in mind that the endplates of other Remy starter models may well fit your housing, possibly later models if yours is a "standard" size... If you have all or most of the pieces, and can get a pic of it more or less together showing the the brush mountings, with some dimensions, that might help... Most important, of course, is the Remy model # if it still has it's tag; there're a lot more older starters around than whole engines, considering WWII and other scrap drives, plus the spikes in scrapiron/copper prices since...
  7. Cursory (eyeball) review of 4-5 old catalogs results in about 50 makes using the 7R (31/4x41/2,the 7R-8R "combination" or the 8R (33/8x41/2, heavily concentrated in the "7R-8R" batch... A 1925 ring catalog shows many instances of earlier models using 7R and later using 8R, so it appears the 8R often replaced the 7R (Hanson 1920-22 7R, 1923-24 8R etc)... While the 7R doesn't show up in a 1917 ring catalog it may've been installed as early as 1917 in some Pennsy and Piedmont models, altho those show as "7W-7R", the 7W apparently a predecessor of the 7R. The 8R is in more later trucks, altho the Defiance is listed with the 7R into 1930-31 (it wasn't unusual for leftover engines at the end of their production life to wind up in trucks). A 36 catalog shows the 7R and 8R share valves and bearings; hopefully they may've also shared starters...
  8. Paul: (1)Got your PM (private message thru site)via email notice PM filed; tried to reply here but couldn't get site to accept reply, so tried replying thru link in email notice of your PM... Site seems to be OK this AM; if no reply came thru site on PM system post here and will reply. (2) Something I don't understand re' PM system---don't recall any prior email notices of PMs, but the other day noticed small red square on site home page up by toolbar, clicked on it out of curiosity, and site PM list came up that I don't recall seeing before, with several messages. Yesterday tried clicking again on little red square; it disappeared but nothing came up. I'm not sure if because not a member or if I'm doing something wrong. Maybe I have old messages I didn't know existed, and people think I just didn't reply?? Have inquiry into site now for help. (3) This reply box wants to put whole message on one line...weird..
  9. If you're still looking for a starter, you might be luckier by appealing to other 7R owners to advise the number/s of their starters... Most of my old catalog 7R listings are shown as "7R-8R", but no mention is made if they were options or if the 7R (31/4x41/2) was succeeded by the 8R (33/8x41/2)...that also raises the question of whether they were alike enough to use the same starter/s...in a 1930 McCord gasket catalog the 6M, 6S, 7C, 7R and 8R all take the same set of gaskets listed, except for a gear cover gasket for 7R-8R only... I don't have a completed 7R list, but some familiar names are: Auburn models 39-51 1920-22 Elcar 6-60 1919-24 Jordan M 1919-21 Lexington 6S 1920-21 Moon Victory-London, 6-48, 6-58 1919=20 Velie 48 1920-23..................all from that gasket catalog...a more complete list would probably be between 20-30 makes, if not more...
  10. Don't know the decoding of AL dist's (IG/IGC/IGS/IGT etc) but FWIW you might run this by some Chry Cptn people...an IGS 4113-I was in 41-42 DeSoto 6, 41-42 Canadian Dodge and Plymouth models AND 41-42 Dodge truck WF/WFM models apparently using T-118/122/128 engines..(US models?) and other 41-42 Canadian Dodge truck DC/DD models using other engines...
  11. Should any questions come up about the engine you might like to contact Terry Harper, who's been rebuilding a "P" 6cyl T-head practically from scratch... He posts as tharper on the Multi Cyl or the Antq Auto/Trk forum on smokstak, and as terry harper on the practical machinist site...
  12. The thread looking for a Cont'l 8 for the Rolland-Pilain, and the reference to the 15S on EBay reminded me to try to bring my Cont'l 8 list up to date... In a 38 Victor catalog I find, under Peerless: "Standard 8 1930-31....see Cont'l 15S" While replacement parts catalogs (my sources) are notoriously incomplete and contradictory, none of my other period catalogs (1929-36) list the 15S...the 12K, 14K and an unidentified "Cont'l Special", no b/s (valve catalog) that's almost certainly the 12K, yes,... Does anyone here have a Peerless engine list, or know if the 15S was actually used???
  13. Oops--posted twice--must've been another senior moment. 38 Victor gasket catalog lists Peerless Standard 8 1930-31....Cont'l 15S. I should think you'll have a number of bidders for yours...
  14. My Cont'l 8 list is nowhere near complete, but you can add other 15S users: Davis---Series 99 1928... Jordan---Model J-JI-JE-G-70-8o-90 1926-30 Light 8--- which came with one of Cont'ls 8SA, 14S, 15S, 17S...(the 36 catalog lists only some of those 28-31 with the 15S)... Kleiber truck---unidentified models 28-30 Meteor Hearse (Ambulance?/) var models 29-30 S&S (Sayers & Scoville) Hearses, Ambulances var models 29-31 Windsor White Prince models 8-65 and 8-92 1929-31 (built by Moon?) World truck model D8 11/2-2T (they also used 14S and a couple Lyc 8s)...no yrs stated... These all from 1930-36 replacement parts catalogs; these old parts catalogs are never complete, and as often contradictory, so listings and dates may not match what actually hit the road. And, yes, Virginia, there are hearse/ambulance collectors; I do believe there's at least one website...
  15. My Cont'l 8 list is nowhere near complete, but you can add other 15S users: Davis---Series 99 1928... Jordan---Model J-JI-JE-G-70-8o-90 1926-30 Light 8--- which came with one of Cont'ls 8SA, 14S, 15S, 17S...(the 36 catalog lists only some of those 28-31 with the 15S)... Kleiber truck---unidentified models 28-30 Meteor Hearse (Ambulance?/) var models 29-30 S&S (Sayers & Scoville) Hearses, Ambulances var models 29-31 Windsor White Prince models 8-65 and 8-92 1929-31 (built by Moon?) World truck model D8 11/2-2T (they also used 14S and a couple Lyc 8s)...no yrs stated... These all from 1930-36 replacement parts catalogs; these old parts catalogs are never complete, and as often contradictory, so listings and dates may not match what actually hit the road. And, yes, Virginia, there are hearse/ambulance collectors; I do believe there's at least one website...
  16. I'd forgotten about this thread; apparently got involved in something else...and cannot find whatever email I sent/tried to send... SOT/KEN?? If you're still here, were you able to ID which Cont'l you were looking for?? I either overlooked, or hadn't found at the time, the Willys 1930-32 Cont'l 8 of 31/8x4, which, if the Google calculator is correct, comes out 245.44 (4L at 61.02=244.08; per the scribbled notes I can find I apparently had 61.4 for 1L))... MTR---what's the Ebay #; or what should I punch in to find?? I can't get it to come up in the endless Cont'l things under the keywords I've tried...
  17. OOPS---my mistake--I scribbled down your model, and then read my scribble as 80 instead of 60 Bud
  18. Did you perhaps get off a line?? You seem to come under ES12 rather than ES`15 FWIW, a May 1941 McQuay-Norris catalog lists, under Buick ES12: 1930 Six, Series 50, 60 1931-32 Series 80, 90, 3280, 3290 1933 3380, 3390 ES15 is listed for: 31-32 860, 3260 1933 3360 An earlier catalog has specs: ES12---type A (eccentric), Diam socket thread 11/8-18 NF, Dia of ball 11/8, High dia of taper .811, Low dia of taper .695, length of taper 15/16, thread size of stud 5/8-18.. ES15---Type A, 1-16 ANT, 1, .749, .648, 13/16, 9/16-18 Don't know what NF and ANT mean. That spec list has numerous listings showing more than one make, but yours are just the Buicks shown; of course, a regular interchange manual might show more...
  19. Does anyone know, off hand, of a fairly comprehensive Lycoming car/truck engine list?? There's a Hemmings Lycoming piece that says Lycoming provided engines for 250+ car/truck companies worldwide, and that they produced 57 engine models... Since I have at least four times that many on my Lycoming engines list (which does, admittedly, include some marine engines) I assume they meant 57 basic engine designs and not the numerous variations on that design... My list was compiled from engines listed in my old replacemrnt parts catalogs and probably includes a few misprints that snuck in...
  20. And, no, they were NOT designed to "leak" for "lubrication"---lubrication was from water pump grease (specially formulated for water pumps, came in its own can, and i understand is still available) and/or whatever looked necessary for exposed parts, if any---when in good cond with the "string" packing should not leak AT ALL with packing nuts snugged good up by hand.
  21. OOPS---you're in the wrong pew, so to speak: this's the forum for the products of both of the Continental MOTORS (Engines, for the purist) manufacturers 1905-60s??, of Chicago, Muskegon etc (mislaid my Cont'l files)... Your inquiry should go into the Lincoln forum in the FOMOCO section...I think......
  22. Did this bill actually pass both houses and become law, or has it just been introduced in the House, where it'll languish and almost certainly die...
  23. Yes, second the motion on letting us know how this works out, however long it takes...
  24. On kerosene flush (red box) question---yes, we used that regularly on old low compression engines, especially when the oil was black-black... Can't say, looking at my watch now, that we ever ran them two minutes--more like 30 seconds to one minute, at most, and even one minute seems long now, but then we tried to run the flush every two or so oil changes (unfiltered engines) and, in an excess of caution, or fear of dislodging too much gunk at one time, usually added a little 10W oil to the kero... Those old unfiltered engines, before detergent oils, could accumulate an astounding amount of gunk---I've seen lots of oil pump screens 75 to 85 percent blocked...
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