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Years ago my friend Fred Kanter used to read classified ads constantly, and clip out anything he found to be interesting. I recall one day he faxed one to me, about a Jaguar for sale. Supposed to be in really great condition, and seller indicated it was absolutely..."floorless!"

Advertise it. Someone will want it.

A photo would really, really help here.

Fossil, I live in Ohio, kind of in the middle between Columbus, Dayton, and Cincinnati...in the "boondocks." My dad's buddy first mentioned that car to my dad sometime in the 1970's (Dad was killed in 1978). The car had been outside a LONG time even then. It sits in a totally overgrown grove of trees, on ground that is often damp. You can imagine the rust... I'll try to get back there sometime before the mosquitoes hatch in 2022, and see if there is any chance that I can find any numbers anywhere. I ASSUME that there may be some durable parts still save-able, but otherwise I think it would have a hard time serving as anything but yard art. There are LOTS of really cool old cars in that condition in that yard. Yet every now and again I'll find some much-needed part there.

There is an OLD salvage yard near me, which has several cars from 20's & 30's. According to some of my dad's friends, one old sedan is a 1930 DeSoto eight. But all badges, etc, are long gone. Where would the serial number be located on that car? Next time I'm in that yard, I would enjoy searching for it, if not buried too deep in the mud. The engine is still there too, I believe.

Hello, Archie, and welcome. There are a few companies which offer replacement auto glass for vintage cars, including Auto Metal Direct (AMD) and Auto City Glass. You can contact them by phone: AMD at: 1-(770) 967-0909 Auto City Classics at: 1-763-444-5880 I'm not sure about Buicks, but I believe that some models and years of older cars use slightly different size windshields for different body styles (IE: 4 door sedans vs 2 door hardtops). Used windshields from that era, if you can find them, often have fogging or delamination around the edges. Good luck in your search.

Another one just occurred to me. The new-in-late-1966 small-V8 SCCA-approved high performance Camaro option was described as Regular Production Option (RPO) Z-28. In mid 1968 that became the actual name of the model, and we Americans pronounce it as: "Zee -28." But my Australian buddies came to visit our family the year I got my 1969 Z28 restored, and they loved riding and driving in my "ZED - 28?" Now, as I pointed out, this was an American car produced by an American company, and they named it. So it should be said as "Zee-28." But they laughed and argued that the language came to American from it's English origin, where the "Z" character is pronounced, "Zed!" So which one is "correct?" Who cares?!? We had lots of fun arguing the point over many beers and much laughter. Any way anyone wants to pronounce the name of a collector car is just fine with me. There is no "correct" way. Just keep talking enthusiastically about old cars, and I'm IN! 😁

I thought the 41 Hupmobile version of that Cord-bodied car was called a "Skylark," with only the Graham being a "Hollywood." Is that not correct?

Hmmm...my grandparents who moved from the back country of KY to Ohio in the 1920's always called that piece of furniture a "Davenport."

My friends and family in Massachusetts and other parts of New England call a sandwich on a long bun a "grinder," whereas here in Ohio (Uh-HY-ah), we generally refer to the sub sandwich. Yet there is another name for this sandwich I have often heard, and can't recall it now...

Let's face it, different folks from different places say the same words differently. To wit: Several years ago Fred Kanter and I went to London, England, and met with several of his old car friends over there. I was surprised to hear the first guy pronounce the name of the American Packard. Whereas I had previously always heard it said as, "PAK-erd," this wonderful and refined gentleman spoke to us of his "Pa-KARD." I just assumed that because he wasn't from America, he just didn't know differently. But then we met others...several of them, and all of them said "Pa-KARD." Don't know if it is said differently in other parts of Great Britain. Years ago my wife and I owned a cool little old German front-wheel-drive sports car...a 1933 Adler (yes, basically the same company as the typewriter). Of course, everyone we knew called it an "ADD-ler." But when I called Germany to search for parts, the folks there called it an "OTT-ler." And when my mates from down under visit my home, they often laugh when commercials on TV offer the "NEE-sahn" vehicles for sale. They have explained to me that a common ad slogan in the land of OZ for the same vehicle is: "You don't know what your missin' if you're not drivin' a "Niss-in." And I still recall the ongoing debate on Porsche, IE: "Porsh" vs "Por-shuh." (Wonder how the Germans at the factory say that one?) In the end, our world already has too many subjects to disagree on. I'm perfectly happy to listen to any car enthusiast speak about a vintage vehicle, just knowing that because they are "car folks," they likely are my kind of people.

The actual Jaguar animal, which the car is named after, lives in Central and South American, where variations of Spanish are the predominate spoken language. In Spanish, the "J" is pronounced like an American "H," so if one were to rely on the name's origin for a pronunciation guide, I wonder if it could be pronounced as "Hog-war?" Do any of our Hispanic members have any input on that? (I'm from Ohio, USA, and I've always said, "Jag-war," and was amazed the first time I visited England and heard a Brit car enthusiast speak of his "JAG-yoo-ar.") 😃

I learn something every time I get on this awesome forum. Thanks!

Jon, As far as my limited knowledge goes, it could be a 1928 OR a 1929. The only outside-visible-difference I personally know about between the two years is the color of the steering wheel (red rubber for 1928, and black rubber for 1929). Of course, there were early production '28 Model A cars, known as the "Model A-R," but the only differences on those models (again, based on my own limited knowledge), would not be visible on the outside. Cheers.

What Wizard part number is it?

The first car I think of with 6 lug nuts on wire wheels is Chevrolet. But that's all I could guess, based on my very limited knowledge.

Most noticeable for me is the fact that the metal under that paint is galvanized, which is why the paint has stuck very well. I actually think this may have been "folk art," made by a skilled professional sheet metal worker, from scraps lying behind the shear in a sheet metal shop. No compound radii anywhere, etc. The wheels and tires certainly don't match the character of a car from the early teens, either. Looking at the photos, I'm confident that I could have made this car myself, back when I was a sheet metal worker in the union building trades. Interesting toy, nevertheless.

30 years old.

I remember that issue of that magazine very well. I graduated from high school in 1972. Wow.

Thanks, PK. Yeah, we're both in our late 60's, so we don't want to take too many chances. Best wishes.

Pkhammer...as an addendum... My wife and I were about to leave for a short trip from Ohio to Massachusetts, but she has been experiencing sinus-related discomfort this week. Symptoms no more serious than what she often experiences in our Ohio winter seasons, but in an abundance of caution we took her for rapid testing for Covid. And, you guessed it, she tested positive. So the trip is off, and we're now quarantined for the next 5 days. Cheers.

Ouch! Very sorry to learn of this. Praying for your full and speedy recovery!

Beautiful car, and wonderful end-story. Congratulations, Pkhammer. I look forward to learning of your progress in getting it back on the road.

My input here: First, many, MANY folks who have vintage collectible items for sale are prone to having some "personality quirks." Some of the greatest finds, and greatest bargains I have ever experienced came from sellers who were quite...er, unusual. 🤪 But if I had only ever pursued cars or other vintage items from sellers who were organized, friendly, accommodating, nearby, and happy to engage in answering questions, I would have missed out on many wonderful treasures. Second, everywhere on Craigslist, Marketplace, etc, you see sellers complaining about time-wasters. It's a common problem, and I personally know several people who simply will not offer things for sale because they have unhappy experiences with some obnoxious buyers. (My brother in law brings me automotive items, and lets me keep half the sale price, rather than list them himself). Some people are simply not good when discussing a sales transaction with strangers. (I have been guilty myself, after talking to several turkeys in a row, of being perhaps a bit too abrupt with the next potential buyer. For example, the muscle car world is FILLED with folks who think they know WAY more than they actually do about things like, "matching numbers"). Third, we all see situations differently, and have different preferences and comfort zones. If we don't like the way a particular seller operates, we naturally steer away. That's as it should be, and PKHammer was exactly right to pass on that Model A. But in truth, there is little point in griping about each others' styles, and we won't change anyone. Finally (and related to my above third point), we all have different outlooks on shopping for old cars or other "treasures." For me personally, the idea of jumping in my truck with some cash in my pocket and a trailer in tow is a joyful adventure, with the chance of securing a wonderful treasure, or at least enjoying a drive. My wife likes to go along, and we eat in interesting restaurants, shop at flea markets or antique shops, and see sights from other areas. Heck, I even jump at the chance to go along with friends when they go to look at some cool old collectible item for sale, knowing many such trips are mere pursuits of non-domestic geese. Yet to other folks, trips like that are arduous journeys which must be endured.

Mr Reed, cudo's to you for the work you are doing on this fine old Buick 8! I truly love to see young people enjoying this hobby. I have one suggestion for you, since you are working on your engine: While you have that fuel pump removed, have a close look at both diaphrams. If they are made of a laminated material, you will likely notice slight separation of material layers. In that case, go ahead and get that fuel pump rebuilt now. Modern neoprene diaphragms are much more reliable, and now is the time to install them. Indeed, even N.O.S. in-the-box fuel pumps with old-style laminated diaphragms will often fail a short time after being installed and driven. Those old laminated diaphragms worked well in their day, but did not age well, and I'm sure that today's fuels don't help that situation. Good luck. I'm enjoying following your progress.