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  1. Oh boy, so much to say… so this’ll be a “drive by” answer (well… maybe not)… no matter what I say, there’ll be more to say… perhaps later… to start – just jumping around… I don’t know the exact answer as a matter of record for the initial question on this thread… as editor of the SAH Journal for The Society of Automotive Historians (i.e., chief bottle washer and cook), and for other publications, I can tell you, yes, the PDF (hi-res, lo-res, et al) is most certainly real and at hand at the time a publication is done and ready for print because a formatted hi-res PDF with the requisite bleeds is what’s sent to the printer… and the SAH (in this case, yours truly) sends the membership a downloadable PDF of the issue before the printer knows he has an issue to print… but, but, BUT… here’s what (I believed right away, again, I don’t know) could have been the rationale for what the AACA did with this one-digital-issue-in-arrears “set-up” when it was first initiated way back when – and that has to do with advertising… as a courtesy for ALL members… if the current digital issue was made available when done it would certainly be available way ahead of the print version getting printed and getting to members… accordingly, only those that would look (and have the ability to look) at the current issue online would have the first crack at the ads (namely the classifieds), such that by the time a print issue arrives to a print-only-consumer, the ads would have been plundered by the digital guys… this way (with one issue in arrears), everyone (theoretically) gets a crack at the publication’s ads at (more or less) the same time. Yes, magazines arrive at all different time around the country… and I’m right there with “edinmass” in Florida where it seems we’re the last to get print stuff (even when I used a printer 40 miles from my location, people more than a thousand miles away would get theirs before me… that’s the nature of periodical (“second class”) mail). The whole digital/internet thing is a big discussion… I’m one with each foot planted in both worlds… I simply love print media and the art of print and the human-tactile connection with print… it’s real, it’s visceral… it is indispensable. Meanwhile, digital has attributes that are greatly under-understood… but the value of which (I say this from a mountain top in full-throated exclamation) is indispensable for the historian and the simply curious – enabling one and all to search and find incredible snatches and full volumes of things you didn’t know you didn’t know about. Let me take one example… from Steve Moskowitz (earlier): “Just an FYI....for years you have been able to purchase a memory stick with ALL the past issues in it. No we don't stuff them in the tiny piece but all issues have been digitized. Available through the AACA Library for about $100.” After you’re done reading this, stop what you’re doing and go order this! I got one. The trick to this thing is… you’re not going to sit there and open each… issue… and… turn… each… page… like you do with a book (although you can certainly do that). No… here’s what you want to do: these issues have been OCR’d (that means, the pages of text have been passed through a process of “optical character recognition”) such that you can search that actual text through 75 years of issues (using the free version of Adobe PDF Reader you can download from Adobe’s website… or it’s already on your computer), and what comes up is every time the thing you’re looking for is found on a page, it’s listed, in bold, in a window, with the words before and after what you searched for (to judge context)… you find the one you want, click on it (click on that line), and the page, from the given issue, will pop up (the PDF of the issue) with the phrase you search for in yellow highlight so you could find and see it immediately on the page. All that happens in about 30 seconds. Or… you can read through 75 years of printed issues to look what you’re looking for. (And even if a publication has an index… would you care to guess how many things are simply not indexed?? I can tell you quite a bit over many years as a researcher of history, etc.) On longevity. Media compatibility is an issue… but not a big one. On one end, there’s a government facility (name escapes me) that (for national security) keeps a backup of – the – entire – internet… from day to day, I believe from hour to hour, so that if anything happens, they can go back to a given day and search the internet as it existed on that day to see if there was “buzz” related to what they’re investigating. Everything has its +’s and -‘s… books and paper get mold, disintegrate, and then there’s the story of The Library of Alexandria… electronic data is depended on a civilization with electricity and technology (useless in a post-apocalyptic reality)… but all things being equal, data facilities have extraordinary backup and redundancy protocols… so for institutions that properly plan, the risk is rather low for digital issues (not what one would guess given the things that make the news… in those instances, I would insist that those were mostly risks that were enlarged by poor management). This won’t be a full rundown of the +’s and -‘s, but allow yourself to adopt the possibility that in the “you don’t know what you don’t know” category, there may be quite a bit of acreage in that undiscovered country to learn about… and I include myself in that – and I’ll unashamedly say I know quite a bit after a career in one of the largest international banks headquartered in New York… there’s still quite a bit that I don’t know that I don’t know. Print… digital… it’s not a contest. Coming full circle (as I sit here surrounded by paper… and external hard drives), I love the printed page (and I feel sure that that will not be going away in any future human society), and I love the utility and portability of digital media… I just got my print issue of Antique Automobile in the mail… I’m looking forward to adding the electronic version to my 75+ year-old library of issues as well. A big shout-out to my good friend “Walt G” (he brought this thread to my attention… knowing that I would be most interested – and he was right) – he’s a treasure to automotive history, as are so many here – and I’m so very glad to see the vitality of inquiry and exchange of ideas! (And I’m very happy that there’s a “Society of Automotive Historians” section here, at home, on the AACA Forum… brilliant!) Enjoy!
  2. 6 of 9 is great!... all y'need is one of those...
  3. Here’s a forum entry to share Ferrari history – for posts in text and images. I’ll start with this interesting story of a business that Enzo Ferrari started early in his career – and if failed. For many, it’ll be the first time they hear of it. For me it makes Mr. Ferrari far more interesting and real that he was before I knew of it. Here it is, from a past issue of the SAH Journal #273… I hope you enjoy it, as I look forward to all the posts and images regarding Ferrari that I hope will follow. Cheers!
  4. In the “Welcome” post (first post above) there was a list of items as examples to know if you’re a candidate for membership in the SAH: “You know you’re an automotive historian if:”—so if any of those resonate with you (anyone reading this), that means you’re a candidate for membership in the SAH. (So please—don’t anyone feel embarrassed… to feel [much] better, please read on…) To reprise, in that same post (above) there’s a list of the folks that are typical SAH members: “academic scholars, automotive journalists and publishers, museum and library professionals, educational and cultural organizations, car collectors and restorers, and enthusiasts.” That last one “enthusiasts” (of automotive history) may as well been the first on the list. Like a great many societies, clubs and like organizations, people join for a range of reasons… and within that list “camaraderie” often ranks high. The SAH is especially positioned to promote camaraderie in that it captures each member’s interests. “Capturing each member’s interests” means each member enters (and can update) their areas of interest… the things they know about, what they want to learn about, what they’re enthusiastic about, etc. On the SAH site’s member page, one can search for a member (members) by name (etc.) AND by “Areas of Interest” (as shown in the site page image herein). So if you’re interested in Hudsons, you can type in “Hudson” in the “Areas of Interest” field, click on the “Search” button and it will list all the members that listed “Hudson” among his/her interests (and yes, there are members that list “Hudson” among their interests). The “interest” field is a free text field… to get a better sense of this dynamic here are some examples of members’ “interests” (names you may recognize): Beverly Rae Kimes (0808) Interests: Social, cultural, business and biographical history of the automobile. Keith Marvin (0007) Interests: Assembled & unusual US & Canadian cars 1917-33 era; Rolls-Royce, Hispano-Suiza, Farman, Dagmar, McFarlan, Wasp; license plates, registrations & their history; biography of Peter Helck, C.W. Kelsey, Karl Martin. Frederick D. Roe (0127) Interests: Crane & Duesenberg; pre-WW2 coach & body building; pre-WW2 racing; pre-WW2 cars and trucks all countries; Duesenberg racing photos. Z. Taylor Vinson (0417) Interests: Pre-WWII European autos, esp. Alvis, Riley, Berliet, Tatra, Walter, Wikov; producer gas vehicles; design and styling; literature for all makes (1891-to date). The SAH remembers its members (and, in parenthesis, their member numbers too)—the above members are no longer with us. Each of these members was awarded the SAH’s highest award: Friend of Automotive History while they were with us. These are somewhat modest “interests” listings… here’s one of some length: “Automobilia, Austin, Bentley, Bugatti, Cadillac, Chrysler, Coachbuilding, Concours d'Elégance, Duesenberg, Ferrari, Hispano-Suiza, Imperial, Isotta Fraschini, Jaguar, Lancia, Lincoln, Mercedes-Benz, Minerva, Museums, Oldsmobile [Toronado], Packard, Photography, Pierce-Arrow, Preservation, Restoration, Rolls-Royce [particularly with the pre-Ghost cars; especially the V8s], Stutz” The basic classes of membership are: U.S. / Canada / Mexico Membership 1-Year: $50.00 USD Overseas Membership 1-Year: $60.00 USD Digital-Only Membership 1-Year: $20.00 USD. (As the name implies, digital membership involves only electronic delivery (via email) of all publications [the SAH Journal and the Automotive History Review] while the other two include both digital delivery AND printed issues of the publications.) Regardless when one joins, SAH membership follows the join date for 12 calendar months… so it makes no difference when one joins during the course of the year. Each year the SAH has its “Annual Meeting of Members & Gala Awards Banquet” during “Hershey” (a/k/a/ “The AACA Eastern Division National Fall Meet”)—and we have a tent on the field at Hershey (OBB 17-19, see the image herein) where we have an authors’ book signing each year. The SAH is known for its awards (please have a look at: https://autohistory.org/awards)—there’s one presentation at Hershey each October, and another held annually at the Automobile Club de France (located at the Place de la Concorde, Paris) in February during Rétromobile. There’s also the annual Automotive History Conference that the SAH and the HVA have joined together to great success over recent years (at the HVA location at the NB Collection in Allentown, PA). And more… For each member (of any organization)—the experience is often what he/she makes of it… some are happy just to get the publications, others look to engage in every which way. Last year the SAH celebrated its 50th anniversary (and we were fortunate to have Karl Ludvigsen as our guest speaker at Hershey), and I looked around the room and noted how many members we have still with us, including Bill Jackson [former editor of AACA’s Antique Automobile], who is member 0002; and noted that we see more and more new members engaging and taking advantage of their member benefits. Thank you for your time and kind attention.
  5. Getting the story right is often a challenge… especially when the details are filled in early on – and later on, those details are found to have issues. In those cases, even when the truth comes out, the error lives on as past publications get quoted in new publications, etc. Such was the case with “the Blue Train Bentley”… if you’ve never heard the story, here’s a past issue of the SAH Journal that picks up the ball years after the truth came out… enjoy:
  6. This is the Pan American Airlines Terminal Building on Dinner Key – the building is around today – served as Miami City Hall… for more, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_City_Hall (Used another version of the original photo - here, "Pan American" on the front of the building could be seen... later replaced by "Miami City Hall")
  7. Welcome. This is a forum page for members of The Society of Automotive Historians (SAH) AND for enthusiasts of automotive history to communicate in an “electronic town hall meeting” for the presentation and exchange of findings, facts, and all the fun of exploring automotive history. So… what is The Society of Automotive Historians? Technically, it’s a 501(c)(3) organization dedicated to automotive history. What does that mean you ask? Well, not to reinvent the wheel (pun intended), here’s part of how this question is answered on the website, autohistory.org: “The Society of Automotive Historians was founded in Hershey Pennsylvania in 1969. We are an international organization of members scattered across the globe. The Society is an eclectic but serious community of historians that includes academic scholars, automotive journalists and publishers, museum and library professionals, educational and cultural organizations, car collectors and restorers, and enthusiasts. “Our membership encourages research into any aspect of automotive history. We actively support the compilation and preservation of papers, organizational records, print ephemera and images to safeguard, broaden and deepen the understanding of motorized, wheeled land transportation through the modern age and into the future. “To reveal this history, we promote the publishing of research findings in books, journals and conference papers. We support the efforts of educators to teach college level academic courses and those who introduce K-12 students to the panorama of automotive history. “For all members, the SAH provides camaraderie and the exchange of ideas, knowledge and data. The Society’s roster allows members to connect with others who have similar specialized interests. “Each year, the Society recognizes significant contributions to the publishing, documentation, and preservation of the worldwide history of the motor vehicle. There are awards for publishing in print (books, articles and magazines) and non-print media (film, video, audio, websites, etc.). Additionally, awards are made for papers authored by undergraduate- and graduate-level students at educational institutions. Service awards are presented for the preservation of archives and for exemplary service to the cause of automotive history. Nominations are received in the spring of each year and awards are presented at the Society’s annual meeting, held during October.” Most car clubs’ member data includes the members names and contact info. and a listing of the cars they own… the SAH is similar, but instead of collecting car data, the SAH asks members to list their interests… so one could find other like-minded enthusiasts among the membership. Not sure you’re an “automotive historian” then? Maybe this would be helpful: You know you’re an automotive historian if: • you read the placards in front of cars on display at a car show; • among your favorite documentaries on TV are ones on automotive subjects; • knowing the history of your car is as important to you as knowing anything else about your car; • authenticity is as important to you as any other aspect of a restoration; • you see value in not restoring an original car – as it’s original only once; • you note all sorts of things ranging from engine specifications to whether or not a marque’s name is hyphenated; • you could find yourself paying more for a car book than a ’32-inch TV; • you could find yourself writing a letter to the editor to correct an error in an automotive article; • you enjoy collecting automobilia much like you enjoy collecting automobiles; I look forward to reading your posts, seeing the pictures you share, and learning all that you may share about automotive history… from the art of automotive advertising, to the challenges of industrial production, to the colors and types of paint that were used in different eras… all of it… all the findings, facts, and fun of learning about automotive history. Enjoy! Rubén Verdés SAH (and AACA Life Member)
  8. The original posted photo caught my attention... I'm sure I had seen the car before - then I found the photo I was thinking of... It appears to be a Bentley 6½ Litre Speed model, chassis KR2699 delivered Nov. 1929 with Gurney Nutting coachwork - Olympia show car, 1st owner W.J. Hargrave Pawson after the show. The rest of the details would be fun to know (and probably are known within another source... just not to wit at the moment)... but it's clear it's not the same spot (given the tree near the door in the original posting's image is not in the "new" image)... indeed, something's going on behind the car in the quoted image, and the ladies in both shots look to be dressed differently, but that may be explained by the coat she's wearing in this new post's image...
  9. Update: there's an easy way to register online, see: https://autohistory.org/archives/18471 There's a PayPal button at the bottom of the page that can process via PayPal or other major credit cards...
  10. Update: there's an easy way to register online, see: https://autohistory.org/archives/18471 There's a PayPal button at the bottom of the page that can process via PayPal or other major credit cards...
  11. The Society of Automotive Historians is celebrating its 50th anniversary and you're invited to attend its Gala Awards Banquet at the Hershey Country Club on Friday, October 11th, during "Hershey" (aka the AACA Fall Meet in Hershey PA) - special guest speaker will be Karl Ludvigsen. For all the details, please download the attached registration form and send it in. I hope to see you there. Cheers! R.
  12. This 1971 Phantom VI enclosed limousine was made for Gordon Mills (Tom Jones’ and Engelbert Humperdinck’s manager). The interior is all original; the front compartment was finished in black hide piped in Garnet; the rear compartment was finished in Twill cloth also piped in Garnet with maroon rugs; cabinet with Sony T.V., record player, 8 track player; electrically adjustable rear seat; and more. Recent work and updates include new tires, new air conditioning compressor, coil, gaskets, and front end/steering repairs. Car is in Texas. 67K miles. $125,000. Contact Ruben at rv@rrbcars.com.
  13. Thank you for your kind comments. For a modified car, I thought that this went rather far to look more “classic/elegant” than other modified cars. There are so many cars out there that are bare chassis, bits & pieces - - often they rust until they’re unusable, or simply trashed. So long as any such car is not a rare/sole survivor of a model or marque, making them usable vehicles is an appealing alternative to the compactor. Cheers!
  14. The Rolls-Royce pictured herein is the actual car used in the movie "Arthur" (starring Dudley Moore, Liza Minnelli and Sir John Gielgud): a 1956 Silver Wraith touring limousine (LELW92) with coachwork by H.J. Mulliner (body #5898, design #7356, tested as RXK4.) This car was originally delivered on July 10, 1956 to Mme. A. W. Frink at the Hôtel Plaza Athénée in Paris, France. Thereafter it found its way to the United States and was featured in "Arthur". After the movie was made the car was sold to a collector who owned the car until he sold it to its present owner in 2004. The car carried its New York license plate of "ARTHUR" since the movie and was again licensed in Florida as "ARTHUR." While it has been maintained, it has not been restored since its appearance in the movie, but was recently refurbished by its present owner to look as clean and original as possible. The car has also and has appeared in the Winter Park Concours d'Elégance and the Amelia Island Concours d'Elégance. $95,000 Call: 561-866-5010 <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p> </o:p> <center> <a href="http://s1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/?action=view&current=01.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/01.jpg" border="0" alt="Arthur-Rolls-Royce"></a><br><br> <a href="http://s1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/?action=view&current=02.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/02.jpg" border="0" alt="Arthur-Rolls-Royce"></a><br><br> <a href="http://s1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/?action=view&current=03.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/03.jpg" border="0" alt="Arthur-Rolls-Royce"></a><br><br> <a href="http://s1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/?action=view&current=04.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/04.jpg" border="0" alt="Arthur-Rolls-Royce"></a><br><br> <a href="http://s1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/?action=view&current=05.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/05.jpg" border="0" alt="Arthur-Rolls-Royce"></a><br><br> <a href="http://s1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/?action=view&current=06.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/06.jpg" border="0" alt="Arthur-Rolls-Royce"></a><br><br> <a href="http://s1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/?action=view&current=07.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/07.jpg" border="0" alt="Arthur-Rolls-Royce"></a><br><br> <a href="http://s1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/?action=view&current=08.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/08.jpg" border="0" alt="Arthur-Rolls-Royce"></a><br><br> <a href="http://s1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/?action=view&current=09.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i392/legalimit/Arthur/09.jpg" border="0" alt="Arthur-Rolls-Royce"></a> <br><br> </center>
  15. This car delivers all the iconic reputation for quality, style and performance wrapped up in the name: Mercedes-Benz. This 450SL has both tops, finished in Anthracite with its Palomino interior and Black soft top – while having been repainted; there has been no color change: it maintains its original colors and its original configuration. Having been recently serviced, and having received a full inspection from a Mercedes-Benz specialist, it is ready to be enjoyed – no money will need to be spent on it mechanically! It will be delivered with its hard-top, its perfect condition accented by all new moldings. Very few cars could dually satisfy one’s yearning for a beautiful classic car and one’s need for a daily driver – this model is at the top of that short list. New to M-B? – or new to this model? Read this article and supplement your perspective: ><O:p></O:p> http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009/11/review-1979-mercedes-benz-450sl-r107/ <O:p></O:p> Unlike neglected cars with dangerously low mileage (never used and usually not serviced), this car has been used regularly, clocking in at 109k, with a mechanical state of condition that indicates attention throughout is 33 years of life. At the article above indicates, this is a car that will serve you well in the years (and decades) to come! $14,850 The pictures below will tell the rest – if you’re interested in inspecting this car with the intent to make it your own, please call 561-866-5010 for an appointment. <O:p></O:p> <O:p></O:p> <CENTER> </CENTER>
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