TomP

Thanks for your replies Gents, I have to admit that I am a bit bemused by all the different information you have given on the original codes, still nothing on the hide color and how much of the interior would have been fabric and how much leather. Thanks again for what you have collectively posted, I look forward to seeing the paint samples.

Still trying to find what I can and have now received my copy of the Build Card. It tells me that the car was built for export to Johannesburg SA Sept. 33 the trim was leather 401 and paint was 545, can one of you wizards give me info of what those codes actually mean. Thanks

Turns out that its a Detroit built car, don't know if it was exported in kit form but now have the details to apply for a copy of the build card. Thank you for the info you have given me.

In the next few days I shall have the car back in N Devon, then I can check out all the No. and we will see where that takes us. The only No. I have at present is of 5 digets which I think may be the frame No. but thats a guess on my part. As said before this car was exported to South Africa where it spent its life until 2002 when it was inported to England and it has never been UK registered. I am lead to believe this could be the only known 33 PD of this body style un the UK, there is another but its a rag top. As I said the car will be with me Sunday next so lets wait and see.

Thanks for the link Mr F have touched base with Jim, very interesting.

Thanks for that info but I'm of the opinion that most of the Kew 6's are long gone. Is there a register of what cars exist and where?

Yes it is the Plymouth PD Deluxe Late 1933 with the 189 cu in staight 6 once its home I will be able to confirm the Vin and engine Nos. so that I can get age related docs for UK registration. Where would I go to get the age related docs??

Managed to strike a deal on Saturday with the owner, I paid more than I wanted and he got less, its the part of buying and selling I most dislike. The metal is in incredible condition apart from the last section in the trunk floor, quite a straight forward piece to make. The floor is another thing, its steel to the back of the front bench, under the bench is ply with an inspection hole to access the battery, the toe boards are wood and we have a hole thru to the dirt in front of the bench, will post pics after I collect it. Could do with some info on the sidemount tin and has anybody got the metalwork to secure the covers?

What floor should there be steel or ply??

Yes this is the PD some 3" longer in the front end with a 112 wheelbase? , I have found out today that the mascot is also included. This is too good to chop although each to their own. My thoughts are the same as your regarding its worth to me personally apart from I think it may cost a little more to restore in the UK. I am able to cope with the machanics and tin work but paint over here is pricey, 2k minimum for a bare metal respay, but time will tell at the wkend, the seller knows where to go so I can talk that one thru. Watch this space.

Ment to say it also comes with the original master parts list with pictures and a copy of the owners handbook. Just found this photo which shows 87384 miles which may not be correct but could be a guide

I will have photos next wkend 19/20th and as far as I know the glass is the only major parts that is not there, things like the twin horns, door furniture, window winder especially the rear window mechanism are all there, radiator core and chrome shell which is good, headlights with glass and mountings, seats have been retrimmed, full instrument panel, loom rewired. Not sure if the rad cap is there or not and the rear lights are thought to be wrong but may have been standard in the export pack sent to SA. back in 1933. My intention would be to restore to a good standard and run for 10yrs or so then depending on how it stands up to the British climate either pass down thru the family or sell on. These are all I have to go on at present.

Hi gents, I am about to view the above that is basically a rolling chassis with a running engine and gearbox, the prop has been removed to ease movement. My understanding is that it comes with a full set of parts with the exception of:- missing sidemount covers, door cards, wood is there on the headlining but no fabric or vinyl, glass is missing and it requires a 10" steel plate welding under the rumble seat. Apart from a few dents or dings the body is sound as are the fenders and hood. Almost all of its life it was based in South Africa and not shipped to the UK until 2002 where it has been dry stored for the last 10 yrs. Here's the difficult part, I know nothing of the Plymouth brand or what should be there and is not, bit of a no brainer I know, but with pension funds the way they are now, could this be a worthwhile project for the future or just another money pit? What are your thoughts.

Bad luck, wanted it myself but the guy said States only, perhaps GB had it, I mailed him to let him know it was on. Have a great Indy, my thoughts will be with you all.

Noticed a stange item to sell on Ebay, a Fedco plate undamaged for a 1929 78?? (don't have the book of words at hand) Y1 HN 65 OLD 1926 28 30 31 MARMON FEDCO VIN identification BADGE on eBay (end time 13-Apr-11 03:30:57 BST) Only available to US bidders.

From Marmon Heritage figures for 1927/1929 are a bit vague, I am of the opinion that because the Fedco System was adopted for 1927 production hard copies of records may not have been kept??. M/H states that 29,000 cars were produced in 29, page 235 states Roosevelt production at 25,089 Sedans 20,000 Coupes 2,500 Victorias 1,500 Convertibles 1,000 Marmons Sedans 3,309 Coupes 652 Victorias 171 Convertibles 211 Following these figures on page 404 it states that 22,323 were registered in 29 with a total manufactured quanity of 29,219 but there is no reference that I can find giving a figure for individual models and styles. Hope it gives a little helps to answer your question, I'm sure kaycee will be along with his usual helping hand.

While talking numbers is it known how the Hayes body numbers work. Recently I looked at a 78 Coupe with the No. 93-136, am I right in thinking that would have been the 136th body of the 93 style?

Thanks for your kind thoughts, certainly was a wild goose chase, the annoying thing is that the body would restore relatively easily, its almost 97% solid but if left for long as it is in the building its in, deterioration in the UK elements will soon take hold. To try and collect whats not there would be a mountain perhaps impossible to climb, but it would be a dream to one day own a piece of American history of that style. In all fairness to the guys that have handled the car in recent months its all to do with the supply train and they will buy and sell what they can to make money on regardless, its what they do, sell their own grandmothers to make a buck. All I can ask you guys to do is keep an ear to the ground and if you hear of something too far gone for economic restoration but in the same style, remember TomP and send me a message. Many thanks for your interest, take care.

Just to update you guys I viewed the Marmon and surprise surprise it was the car that Lee Holman sold on Ebay early last year. Here's the link to the local news cutting. 1929 Marmon roadster set to take journey from Sedalia to the U.K. | span, style, font - Top Story - Sedalia Democrat Funny how prices change, what started out at around $1300 is now $6400 in the UK and all that's Marmon is a body and a chassis with springs. The straight eight engine has already been sold.