Jonny88

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  1. And Jim, you would not happen to have another oil bath for sale would you, Thanks. Jon
  2. Mr. Hanson, Could you please send me some detailed pictures and is this a 51 original oil bath for a super 88 or reproduction, my email adress is ketronj@bgsu.edu, I would greatly appreciate it, thanks. Jon
  3. Yes Sir Jim! That is the oil bath that I am looking for, there were two types, I think one is just a air cleaner and the one pictured on your oldsmobile is a factory, where the other one I was lookin at is a later model that is compatable with cadillac models. Very clean engine by the way, very nice. Im guessing that is also a 51 super 88 thanks for the help. Jon
  4. Hello, Does anybody have a complete original oil bath for a 51 olds super 88 they want to sell, thanks. Jonny88
  5. Hello Jim, Thanks for your reply, I do understand what you are saying, I have talked to other and they also stated that it is much more of a pain than paper air cleaner. Still I will be looking for one, thank you for your advice. Also could you help me under stand the difference Little more. I do know that they both are used to clean the air that goes into the carburetor, but little else. I guess that the paper filter was a advancement that started in the early 60s maybe, I don't know. Thanks once again Jon
  6. Hello all, does anybody have a 1951 new oldstock oil Bath/Air Filter or a used one they want to sell, my 51 olds super 88 is missing its original and now has a paper filter on it as you could see in my pictures of the car from older post. I will use reproduction as a last resort, even if a original one is beat up a tad I can fix it. Thanks Jonny88
  7. Hello once again everybody. I have a question for you all. Considering from what I have been telling you from past threads, about my 51 olds super 88, what do you guys think the overall current value of the car is. I paid $4000, and think in its current condition it is worth $5000 or $6000. The car is not by any means %100 show quality but is %100 complete in terms of cosmetics and mechanical. the reason I am asking is that my insurance lady needs to know this information to make a proper quote for my insurance price for the car. I just don't have the experience to value antique vehicles yet. My current insurance policy on my daily driver is progressive and I plan to get a policy from them as well for my 51 olds. Is this a good idea or can any of you give me direction to a better antique car insurance company that has fair insurance prices. Thanks Jonny88
  8. Hello everybody I got a question for you all. I am kinda confused, I know that leaded gasoline was used in the old days until the 70s when they switched it over to unleaded fuel, at least that is what I was told. They don't make leaded gasoline anymore but I do know that there is a mixture that you can get for those leaded gas cars. The 1951 Oldsmobile super 88 that I am now the owner of, does it take leaded gasoline, the past owner stated that he just used unleaded gas that you get at the station now. Does it matter if you use leaded or unleaded gas in cars of the past including this model, if anybody can give me insight to this question it would be most appreciated, thanks. And if there is a mixture available for leaded gas cars, what is it and how do you go about doing it, thanks. Jonny88
  9. Hi everybody thanks for your replys I appriciate the help, Pontiac1953 I am pretty sure the dipstick for the hydromatic trans is in the engine bay. I will be away from the car for sometime until this March it is in storage a few hours from me. I could give you a better answer at that time. Could anyone point me in the best direction for hydromatic transmission fuid when I flush the system to put new fluid in, thanks. I did go ahead and bought the two manuals from a seller. Both shop and owners manual were sold to me a few days ago. Both are in good condition and will help me in my coming adventure with the restoration of this olds 88 in the summer months shortly. I do have a question, for the shame of me I do not remeber a manual choke button on the dash of that 1951 olds 88 I test drove and bought. Does anybody know if the 51 B Olds 88's had a automatic choke or manual button. Thanks guys I will be joining two Oldsmobile clubs in the coming months, the national olds club and olds club of america. This summer I would like to get her on the road, once electical is fixed, and take her to a few shows, let me know if any of you guys will be attending shows this summer. I live around the Cinncinati Ohio region and will travel an hour or two out of my way for shows this summer. Two shows that I will be attending in my area are the Annual Hamilton (My home town) Antique car parade, A huge show and a smaller one, Bebb Hill park show. Thanks. Jon Ketron
  10. Thank you both for discussing isuess on the transmission issue. I understand what you guys were saying about a clogged filter and fluid change, I do not know if the most recent owner had done any of this maintnence, most likley not. This sure will be a big task for me. Can you guys guide me in the steps of cleaning the filter and fluid. I also found a owners manual and shop manual, original for $130 after shipping, what do you guys think. Will the shop manual cover details about the Hydramatic and electrical wiring and electircal system. I am starting to think that once the owner changed the electrical over to 12 volts he blew just about all the electrics for the gauges, turn signals, brake lights, and radio. Ironically the headlights work just fine. Im hoping the original owner did not reconnect all the componets. Whats your opinions? Thanks guys. Jon Ketron
  11. I would send pictures of the cars mishaps but I will not see it till I pick it up in March sorry about that.
  12. Hello everybody. A few weeks ago I had posted a thread that introduced myself and a 1951 Oldsmobile Super that I was looking at for $4000. You all were very helpful with my questions and gave me the knowledge to buy this 51' 88 super. Well I have finally bought it and will have full ownership by March of this coming year. The verdict of the car: Well I must say this super 88 is in decent shape for the price Bill the owner was offering it for. I will list some of the details that when on with my investigation at PM yesterday. The body of the car: I know you guys said it is best to stay away from rust if possible. The exterior of this car is in excellent shape for the most part. The hood does not exactly align directly to the front end, almost as if it is bent about a centimeter out of place. The same result with the door creases where they meet with the frame body. There is no visual rust on the surface of the outside of the car, and the paint is in very good shape, painted about 10-20 years ago restoration, although the restoration was not done to original Olds super 88 specs as you guys had discussed earlier. Inside the wheels wells is some surface rust and there is a flake or two inside the well where the beginning of the cabin starts. The front bumper will need re-chromed again, horns and all, there are a few spots where the chrome on the bumper has flaked off. Aside from needing new carpeting from the front seat to the firewall there is a bit of surface rust but no holes, on the most part surface rust only. On two of the doors, the underside is rusted moderately and will need repaired, but once again, no holes. The engine bay: Is quite clean, everything runs as should and the car idled like a sewing machine, quite nicely. The engine block was repainted Chevy red for some odd reason the owner didn't know and was never modified or taken out as far as he knew. The belt connecting the alternator and fan was either loose, worn out, or the bearings to something were bad, the belt wobbled a bit when the engine was running. Throttle and transmission linkage was also good. The electrical system (what a mess): OK, the car is a converted 12 V system and charges the battery fine. The car starts on the first push of the button no problem. But aside from that the car will need all other electrical looked at by myself, I will have to learn the system. The bad: The headlights work fine with the conversion, and one tail light works as well, other could have a busted bulb. Parking lights don't work, turn signals don't work, brake lights (as the brake peddle is pushed in) don't work, all interior lighting does not work, speedometer does not work, gas gauge does not work, amps do work, volts do not work, engine temp gauge does not work the heater does not work and the horn does not work. Big problem on my behalf but should not be a huge problem. Transmission: I did take the car for a drive with the owner after I had inspected the body (no fiberglass add in's, which is a good thing, I checked as described on the forum). This old 88 does shift well for its aged transmission. All gears in D L and R work fine. I did notice if you start out in first and really step on the gas the car just seems to rev its self without moving?? Interesting, any input on this?? Brakes: The brake pedal is missing its rubber pad for the foot. The brakes will need work, the shoe on the left rear tire needs a complete overhaul with a new one installed I could hear it clanking the whole time, and the car will need new brakes all around. I do know that this is a manual brake system and had to pump it several times to get the car to stop. Parking brake does not work ether. The rest of the car is in fairly good shape including the interior, aside from it needing a new glove box interior and lock cylinder as well as a trunk lock cylinder. surface rust is present but overall a very solid body, I must say from a distance you would think this car would need no work, that is more than a tease. But with an old car come work to be done, you cant stop aging. One good thing about this buy and this car, it was reasonably price and I could take it for a spin when ever I wanted, it runs and drives well. While I am paying off the car I will start searching for NOS parts for the car and will eventually, by summer time have the car switched back to a 6 Volt system so the electronics will work. I am lost on where to start, some questions for you guys, once again greatly appreciate your help, thanks Questions: Let me know what you guys think of what I had stated above and below, thanks. 12 volt conversion back to 6 volt, what to start on and how to go about with it. I will need to get owners manuals and shop manuals, as the owner does not have any that came with the car. My search for parts starts now. I am mostly interested in NOS parts mainly, but I know they are hard to find. My last resort will be the two companies that Rocketraider referred to me, which I greatly appreciate. I want to bring back as much originality as possible and would love to have the car back to original condition through the next few years (this will be my project car). Parts that I am currently interested in obtaining within the next few months: NOS or original parts Windshield wipers both for driver side and passenger. NOS or original parts 6V alternator NOS or original parts fuel pump NOS or original parts Lock key and cylinder for trunk and glove box NOS or original parts Air Filter Pan NOS or original parts rubber foot pads for both the Brake pedal and Gas Pedal. NOS or original parts Brake shoe and 4 drum brakes that are not wore out. If any of you guys know any dealers or owners and are able to refer them to me, that would be great. My other question for now would be how to go about with brake shoe replacement and drum brake replacement. As always I appreciate all of your help, this hobby is fairly new to me although I am learning at a fast pace and as best as I can, thanks for your input.
  13. I think you both are right about the red spray on the engine block, upon closer examination I do see the overspray on the firewall and fuel line to the carb. I will investigate the engine next thursday when I go and take a good look at the car. Thank you both.
  14. Jim, Thanks for your input on the engine. I figured the engine was painted the wrong color after you guys discussed correct green engine color for all Oldsmobile's through 1956. According to the seller this Old's 88 has a 303 ci V8. I am pretty sure that is the correct engine for this model from what I researched on the internet. Please correct me if I am wrong. This will be critical information that will have the impact as to whether or not I will buy this car, I want to get as close to original as possible. Thanks
  15. Thanks Oldsfan for clearing up my confusion with this 88 model. After looking at some other pictures I noticed the different body style from early 51 to late 51. When did Oldsmobile take off the front air vents below the headlights. Was it after the the model I am looking at? I am thinking about changing back to the original fuel pump for this car, and also have found out that the vacuum on the fuel pump powers the windshield wipers. No doubt that it will be a tough job. I will be looking at this car next Thursday, cant wait, I will check everything you all have been talking about. Thanks for all the information from all of you, I appreciate it. And If anybody can give me an opinion on changing this car back to a NOS or reproduction 6 volt system I would appreciate it, thanks.
  16. Wow, I am amazed with the help that you guys have presented me with, I greatly appreciate it. Rocketraider, thank you for the two links to parts and olds manuals, this is something that I have been looking for. Thank you everyone for your knowledge. I do have some questions for you guys if you could help. This 51 Olds 88 is a standard model, that is what the owner says. I looked up some info about the standard models vs the super models. The owner says that olds made less 51 standard models than super during that year, some 250,000 or around that number. Can anyone shed any light on this question please? The car also has a 12 volt converted electric system, don't think it is original. This will be a project car for the next few years, I will add bit by bit. I am a big fan of originality, almost ocd about it. Can anybody tell me if the exterior mirrors are original and in the correct position? I have seen several mirrors that have a curved shape such as the two on this 51 olds but none bolted on the upper area of the car like this one. Could anyone also give some tips when examining the rocker panels on this car, I will need to make sure there is not any rust or rotting. My next question, would it be a bad idea to change the electrical back to a original 6 volt system? I know that 12 volts are more efficient and can hold a greater charge. My other question involves the electric fuel pump that is installed on the car. Can anyone tell me if this is a original item or if it is something that the owner installed him self. I did see a picture of a original fuel pump and it look quite different than the one in the picture. If this is not an original item that would be on the car, would it be a bad idea to eventually switch to an original nos or reproduction fuel pump? I wanted to let you all know how much of a help you guys have been, and thanks for you're responses. Jon
  17. D Yaros, thanks for the info, were the rocket engines green in color with yellow lettering on the valve covers were it says "Oldsmobile Rocket"? I did notice that the carpet is very loose on the driver side, I will examine the underside and rocker panels thank for the great advice. I do have one question, what did you mean by using a magnetic device when examining the body? Could you go more in detail with it, Thanks.
  18. Hello rocketraider thanks for your detailed reply. I am new to the Oldsmobile 88 and am doing as much research as possible before deciding on this car. Do you think it would be very difficult to find such cosmetic items as I had stated in the description on the original post? I do agree with you on the engine color. I have seen many olds with the green and yellow paint, is that what all rocket engines were painted in the 50s. I did see information on the Internet stating that olds high compression engines were pained red and low compression engines were painted green. I don't know if that holds true or not, please help me out. I also had see that you mentioned something about the electric fuel pump and rubber hoses that it is attached to. I know that because of the fuel pump the line will be under pressure, but only a few psi because of the carb, which should not be to bad. I am new to all of this but am a true hobbyist when it comes to old cars and want to learn more, I would appreciate you're help and anybody else's, thanks.
  19. Hello<!-- google_ad_section_end --> <HR SIZE=1><!-- google_ad_section_start -->hello everybody, this is my first post on the website. I registered because of my interest in antique and classic cars. I am looking to buy a 1951 Oldsmobile standard 88. As far as I can tell from my conversation with the current owner and pictures, it runs well and is mostly complete. All the trim outside and in is complete except for very small items such as trunk lock cylinder, rear-view mirror glass, glove box key, powder coated bumper plates, Oldsmobile lettering over both globe emblems, windshield wipers, and original air filter pan. I do know that it is a 12 volt converted system but retains all of its other original equipment. The Hydra-matic transmission works well after the car warms up for a few minutes. Is there any pointers that would be good to know when I go and look at this 88 next week? The owner is asking $4000, please let me know what you guys think, thanks. <TABLE id=ncode_imageresizer_warning_1 class=ncode_imageresizer_warning width=640><TBODY><TR><TD class=td1 width=20></TD><TD class=td2 unselectable="on">This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 1024x768 and weights 161KB.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <TABLE id=ncode_imageresizer_warning_2 class=ncode_imageresizer_warning width=640><TBODY><TR><TD class=td1 width=20></TD><TD class=td2 unselectable="on">This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 1024x768 and weights 158KB.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <TABLE id=ncode_imageresizer_warning_3 class=ncode_imageresizer_warning width=640><TBODY><TR><TD class=td1 width=20></TD><TD class=td2 unselectable="on">This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 1024x768 and weights 175KB.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <TABLE id=ncode_imageresizer_warning_4 class=ncode_imageresizer_warning width=640><TBODY><TR><TD class=td1 width=20></TD><TD class=td2 unselectable="on">This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 1024x768 and weights 162KB.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <TABLE id=ncode_imageresizer_warning_5 class=ncode_imageresizer_warning width=640><TBODY><TR><TD class=td1 width=20></TD><TD class=td2 unselectable="on">This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 1024x768 and weights 193KB.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
  20. hello everybody, this is my first post on the website. I registered because of my interest in antique and classic cars. I am looking to buy a 1951 Oldsmobile standard 88. As far as I can tell from my conversation with the current owner and pictures, it runs well and is mostly complete. All the trim outside and in is complete except for very small items such as trunk lock cylinder, rear-view mirror glass, glove box key, powder coated bumper plates, Oldsmobile lettering over both globe emblems, windshield wipers, and original air filter pan. I do know that it is a 12 volt converted system but retains all of its other original equipment. The Hydra-matic transmission works well after the car warms up for a few minutes. The owner is asking $4000, please let me know what you guys think, thanks.