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Completed my "MacGyver" repair and appears to be successful. The trick was to build a form to hold it while the JB Weld cured. Time will tell.

Have anyone used the Hollander Interchange Guide to do your research ? I saw one once and there was much information.

If the resolution is less the 100 kb there is not much you can do with it with any software. Check out this e-bay post of a lot of manuals. http://stores.ebay.ca/Ken-McGee-Auto-Literature/_i.html?_nkw=Dodge%20brothers&submit=Search

Here is photos of 1926 trucks. See page 52 of the book "The Dodge Story" by McPherson. There was a steel disk for the 3/4 ton also.

Still looking for example photo of 33x 4-1/2 rim or 33" - 2x4.5 = 24" rim. I wonder if this wasn't for export trucks only.

Great article. These appear to early "E" series. Note the single cream color trim belt line that extends to the hood. Could you sent a better scan? It is hard to see details. Thanks

Thanks Jason. It would be good to have an example of the 24" wood spoke. I have not come across one yet.

OK we know the 31x5.25 is the 21" wood spoke rim which I have on my truck. Also the 30x5 is a 20" steel/iron spoke rim as shown in the picture. The question what is the 33x4-1/2 rim? I believe it was the steel flat disc. What ya think? Dave the DA 124 I have found in Long Beach CA. Had 20" wood spoke rims.

Jason this was a great thread. Lots of good stuff. I have been revisiting this thread and have compiled a lot of helpful information.

Looks like my parts truck is the series E-DA equivalent to DEF model. It was sold in 1931. It has 20" steel spokes and heavy 10 leave rear spring. This is the chassis I am using. The wheelbase is 120". This is as I found it in Riverside before the big California "Crush Them do not Keep Them" in the 70"s. Notice the headlights.

The full length running boards tie into my rear fenders on my DE model. My parts truck had no rear fenders and was modified from the cowl back. Hard to say what it was originaly. If you do not have rear fenders the running boards would be shorter. Not aware of any full lenght fenders with daul tires. Jason thanks for scan of different models DE, DEF, & DEW.

Total chassis produced = 116399-109835=6564 total "E" series from Stockton over a 53 month period. Starting in June 1928 and ending Jan 1932. Assuming uniform production my S 114xxx truck would be the 4304th truck produced in May 1931. Like I said before that uniform production is not likely. I would like to confirm the differences between the DE, DEW, & DEF Models. These were carryover models from Graham Bros. The E-DA series was the new model names of which my DE would be a E-DA. What then would be the new designation for the DEW and DEF? Or do they even exist?

They may from Jason. Not sure.

My S 114139 truck was the 4304th of series "E" and S 115179 was 5344th of series. A total of 6564 "E" series chassis were built in Stockton over 53 months. If production was uniform (I doubt this because of depression) these would be dates of May 1931 and Jan 1932 respectively. One thing I find interesting is I have record of a DA-124 as S 115124. This was before my parts frame was stamped. I will request build sheets.

I have recieved portions of GB and DB manuals and have made a comparison of models. I also attached a page of the "Graham Brothers Handbook" that describs the DE & DEW chassis. It appears the DEW has the 33x4-1/2 tire or 33"-9"=24' rim. This is a steel disc rim I believe. I have the DE with wood spoke 21" rims and a set of steel spoke 20" rims. I know for sure I have a DE since I have the original toe board registration plate. Once I get a handle on what the GB/DB models were I will hope to get the DA-120 model equivalant. I do not have the build sheets for my trucks. All I can do is prorate based on frame numbers. I will summarize latter.

Sorry for confusion. Let me clarify hopefully. Both are from same "E" 120 WB series chassis. The carrier with extensions is off my chassis (S115xxx) and it had 30x5 steel spokes and heavy rear springs (which I believe to be the DEW model), hence the smaller carrier ring and extensions on the carrier. The carrier on the right is the same one as in my previous post of my truck and mounts as shown in the attached photo. These frames are badly bent but will have same dimension to match the frame width of 34".

Both are from same "E" series chassis. The one with extensions is my current chassis (S115xxx) and it had steel spokes and heavy rear spring. these frames are badly bent but will have same dimension. Have a good Easter.

These carriers are from my two trucks and I know the tire size for each because I have the rims and tires. The "MPB" section T-22-20 and T-22-21 show the tire size and these as the model DET. The carrier on the right bolts directly to the frame with no extensions required. See attached photos. Jason I have a queston. I do belive the different models are DE, DEW and DEF. Do you have any sales information to address this? I am trying to figure this out.

I have done some research on these tire carriers. I have two tire carriers. One from may DE model and one from my DA 120 model. The DE carrier is for the std tire 31x5.25 or 21" size ( Part # 516817). This is wood spoke rim. The one on the right in the picture. The DA120 carrier is for the 30x5 or 20" size ( Part # 516818 ). This is steel spoke rim and would be the DEW model. Note this carrier has extensions to carry a bigger tire. Also the diameter of the ring is smaller for the 20" rim. The one on the left. There is a third carrier listed (Part # 516819). This would be for the 33x4.5 or 24" solid steel disk rim and would be the DEF model. This is a guess. These numbers are in agreement with both the "E" series part book and the MPB page T 22-21, but model listed as DET. I still do not know the equivalent to the DEW and DEF models using the DA120 model series. They may have added A, or B to the model. You can see how these got damaged in their lifespan.

On the truck it is on the drivers side near the front shackle.

The DA 124 cab is very different than the DA 120. Note my wood work and floor frame. Both cabs are attached to the steel seat box but the boxes may be different also. My levers control spark, throttle, and lights. It appears there is only two levers on the Wisc truck.

I replaced the wood in my 29 Dodge bros truck and used white oak. Works out real well if you have the skills and correct tools available. You will need to understand the way the the wood is rough sawn to determine where it is best used. Some rough sawn woods are priced buy method cut. My floor board was plywood also. I will use marine grade. thanks for suggestion of not glueing the connections.