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  1. I wasn’t aware of it, not in the AACA anymore due to conflict with one of the hall cops on this forum. Will consider it again. Thanks for the heads up
  2. Computer is in for repairs so I’ll try responding by index finger… Personally I think everything should be filed by date chronologically for easy referencing in the future. Doug has his hands full uploading it so maybe there should be a group who can use what he’s uploaded then index it and share it by email? That way we can constantly update it. We would have to be able to file share something that is edit enable friendly but has to have checks and balances for errors or mistakes.
  3. Great idea! Indexing and organizing will be key. I love the idea of having helpful docs in one location and think it's way overdue...
  4. Not sure which show you're referring to,,, sorry I'm a bit brain dead from the week long trip to Ohio.. I don't see your build card on file (keep in mind I'm trying to focus on 1928-1932 the lost years) but I see your truck as a 1938 .5 ton serial 81869xx according to the most recent Club Roster. I'm not sure if anyone has taken on the task of build cards from 1933-1938 Dodge trucks. The main reason I'm focusing only on the 28-32 years is because of the DES system prior to 1933 models being so confusing and I'm trying to find answers for that group of owners. Have you been in contact with Eric Bannerman? He has a couple of books about Dodge trucks and serial number ranges and may want to hear from you. He's not in the DBC but he's still very helpful to the post 1933 truck community regardless. Let me know if you need his email. Dodge Truck Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) Decoder (t137.com)
  5. Hi Alan yes I believe I do have yours in the data from memory. Sorry I haven’t been responding, been traveling on the road for 12 hours a day since Wednesday morning. Currently in Missouri as I’m trying to get back home to AZ. Here are some parts I found in Ohio Will check in once I get settled back home.
  6. I saved a copy of that and forget about it. I bet that’s it… I think you nailed it. edit: actually that’s for the Senior truck engines so not sure if it relates to the Victory Six truck engines. Good catch regardless… thanks Sherman edit again lol ( sorry I’m trying to multitask too much right now). It is for a Victory Six also. That’s an awesome catch!
  7. Every time a politician speaks about it I can't help but think of a recent quote I came across... “No. No. I’m listening. It just takes me a minute to process that much stupid all at once.” Great photos from our Aussie brothers as always, especially the blurry 24" spinners on the roadster doing 120 I'm sure some kids today are jealous too... Looks like you are all making the best of it. Kudos!
  8. Second attempt at replying. Sometimes folks don't know we're responding unless we click on "quote" them.. Not seeing anything in regards to that number system. Anything on the firewall? Pics would help of the door tag and any firewall tag. Pics of the body would help too.
  9. Very true.... I'm still wondering how you got hit by a plaque?
  10. You should know most of us horse traders can't read You've been warned (kidding!)
  11. Manufacturing. A look inside the confusing years of Dodge Brothers taking over Graham Brothers just before Chrysler took over Dodge Brothers... As most of you know there are countless other takeovers and consolidation around this pre war era, I think it's interesting to take a peak inside the factories to help us understand certain things. I'll not bore the non Dodge Brothers crowd with the gory details but it's been an intriguing chronological study for the past decade as a researcher. Photos like this give us a visual to things we've read for years.
  12. Others may know better but Dave G is mostly on the Buick boards and pops in from time to time. He disappeared the last time for what seemed like a couple of years... I could be wrong as I'm going by memory.
  13. As a follow up to my last post and why build cards are so important. Here are the 1930 numbers I have uncovered for Dodge Brothers truck units produced. This research has taken me several years to compile along with help from some of you (thank you). The information was compiled from many sources of material and publications that are documented and double checked for accuracy. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong if you have literature or documents to prove otherwise. 17,134 Detroit plant (all models excluding Merchant Express totals) (4,304 Merchant Express all built at Detroit plant) Detroit units totaled - 21,438 (Including Merchant Express) 4,607 Evansville plant (all models, excluding Merchant Express) 1,824 Stockton plant (no Merchant Express and no buses) Grand total for all Dodge Brothers trucks produced in 1930 at all three DB plants combined was = 27,869. NOTE* this is based on "model year" from July 1, 1929 to June 30th, 1930 and not by calendar year. Although others may dispute this process, I'm only following this process because that's the information that was provided by the company according to model charts. This is my attempt to try and break down those model charts to read them correctly for each new model released yearly and so we can uncover body style transition periods more precisely. I'll continue to complete some of the other transition years numbers for trucks and hope to one day publish it in the newsletter once I get it to where everyone can easily understand it better. This is just a glimpse into why the build cards and research are so important...
  14. @Knobless Your build card brings up very good points for some of the reasons I encourage everyone to try and send in for them. Several sections of the build cards provide answers for all of us, not just the owner but for researchers who are trying to figure things out for the sake of the DB and GB community in hopes of correcting some answers. As we all research and compile more serial/frame numbers to gain answers and as we input them into a database on excel, I've notice there is a very precise chronological order to some sections on the build cards, such as Serial # per plant and Order#. Although it may not seem like much, it's very important when uncovering a hiccup in the ORDER numbers section on the build cards for domestic trucks that stayed in the USA but the order# jumps backwards when we see a truck that was exported. Why is that? I believe the exported trucks had it's own pattern. Most folks don't know this but, we were the largest exporter in the world at the time. In 1930 we only imported around 709 total vehicles (including all types, passenger car, truck or commercial cars) for the year and exported for US and Canada combined was 470,268 according to the NACC (National Automobile Chamber of Commerce). Total 1930 truck production for US and Canada combined was 599,991. Out of those 599,991 trucks produced, 186,701 were considered "exports or foreign assembly units inclusive" while 413,290 stayed in the USA as domestic trucks. As you can see, trucks were a substantial percentage of all automobile exports. Why is this important when talking about Dodge Brothers build cards Dave? ! I'm glad you asked.. As an example for Domestic trucks that stayed in the USA and why it's important when looking at build cards; The build card for my DA124 3/4 ton 78" Panel truck shows the order # D 59516. I have several other build cards for 1930 that are in an exact chronological order so the pattern is proven. I believe the D is for Detroit and S is for Stockton when a truck was made in Stockton CA plant and E would be for Evansville. Note * I don't recall seeing any build cards for trucks made in Evansville yet, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time once a current owner of a Evansville built truck comes forward with his build card. (getting build card information from truck owners is like pulling teeth) Exports and why it's important when looking at build cards: The build card from a 1930 DA124 3/4 ton 78" Express pickup body style (same year and series as my panel truck) which was produced exactly a month later than my truck in the same Detroit plant,,,, However, this is the only build card that I have come across for any truck that was sent to Canada and has an Order # with a T on it T 57793. I am trying to prove if the T is for Export or for Ontario.... Until we get more build cards it's still a guessing game. That's one of the main reasons I implore others to get build cards because behind the scenes, these cards are like a glimpse into the production process and the build cards are the only way to fill in some of these blanks of missing information. Although this truck was produced 1681 units after my truck at the same plant, the order number precedes mine by 1723. I believe this to be very important to hopefully finding out how many Dodge trucks were exported when considering the yearly totals. Maybe not in our lifetime but hopefully it helps unlock the mystery someday...
  15. Antique Tractors - Antique Tractor Resource Page Antique Tractors - Yesterday's Tractors : Parts and Online Community (yesterdaystractors.com) Yesterday's Tractors - Discussion Forums (yesterdaystractors.com)
  16. Pre grand opening? Shining like a new penny. Nice Graham Brothers panel truck..
  17. Hi Robert did you find this answer by trial and error working on vehicles, or did you find a particular document that explains this? Fascinating info and I'm sure many of the car guys appreciate your input. Believe it or not this information is invaluable to a truck guy also in other ways. Thanks again. Dave
  18. I'd say that's a winner and very salvageable... Very cool!
  19. I've personally only seen one Superbird and that was around 2007 in Desert Hills AZ... My older brother owned a pretty rare 70' 440 GTX lime light green similar to this one and I used to clean it daily for him from 77 to 78. Loved that car but never seen a Superbird or Daytona in person till 2007.
  20. I think this is the chart you're referring to that shows the end of 27' and beginning of 1928 models around your serial range. I noticed it previously and had questions locked away in regards to what you are inferring but it's one thing at a time as I'm trying to process all of the many bits of information. Very good point and I'm interested in the correct answer for sure.
  21. If you're talking American made and by todays modern standards (imo) it's hands down the Dodge Challenger Hellcat triple black package. I don't think you can find a car that meet all three of your criteria otherwise (American made). Beautiful styling and looks, and definitely meets the performance standard (and beyond) plus the value. I'd put the value against anything on the world market with all it offers. Just my opinion... (sorry Vette and Stang kids...) However, the fact that it is so much of a performance (muscle) car, it may toss it out of this conversation. Funny, disqualified for being too powerful.... But let's be real... judging anything compared to the L29 (or Duesenberg Torpedo) isn't even fair . There is no equivalent PERIOD.
  22. Goes without saying but I doubt "need" is involved. More like want... He now owns a 59' Vette with 460 HP and a 70' Charger with 1000 HP as of spring 2021. Let's hope he (and any friends he lets drive) decide to have a bit more respect for these beasts and the public this time around.
  23. Well said Walt... And don't forget, some are still standing as a new history is being written 200 Lancaster Ave Ardmore PA A recent google street view shows it's still there . Now with a handicap ramp showing it's up to code..
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