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got a picture?
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try Robert Kapteyn 815-212-2389
rbk on forum
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I have also had old timers tell me to avoid high grade bolts
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I also check them every season at least once to make sure they have not loosened or stretched. also the spark plugs.
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Roger
was told to use contemporary bolts on my 1927 Chevy I am thinking it was like 65lbs will verify, they do stretch so probably would be afraid to use modern grade 8 but in a pinch might.
Ken
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Hey
Met with Robert Kapteyn at his warehouse filled with Studebaker and Packard parts. Great man great warehouse. German Dutch like myself. Did not have my cluster gear for my 23 so onward and upward.
Ken
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My cousin from Milwaukee used to travel the country doing metal stitching on ocean going vessel engines, unfortunately he passed. Per his comment anything could be fixed. Shipping cost cannot be that much, my worry would be it getting lost must insure.
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Actually they seem hard for sure would not call them soft, we are going to find out.
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Hi
1923 Big Six would consider rolling chassis etc send pics to cpaxirs@comcast.net
Ken
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Scott
thinking about looking for someone that can make a gear. any suggestions on what type of machine shop appreciated. will probably just leave the trans with missing tooth in car and drive without first gear. I do not drive it much. In the mean time would like to experiment on the countershaft assembly taking the rivets out and removing the nasty gear. would leave second and third alone in the replacement countershaft. Any thoughts on who might have a gear nos? Any thoughts on taking it to a welding shop and having some fillings installed in the teeth.
Ken
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Things I found out
1) there are a couple of different cases the above one is probably the later model.
2) you probably do not need to heat anything. I somehow concluded that I needed to remove the front flange (need to read instructions many times here) this is not easy and requires heat and for sure you will bend the fingers doing this with a puller.
3) the couple of different cases helped me get confused as the service manual has pics of both.
MY NEW DILEMA
The gears on the countershaft are riveted and I think the rivets can be seen in the above picture of the damaged first gear. I guess I should grind the head of the rivet off heat the gear and try to pull off.
COMMENTS PLEASE!!
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TRANSMISSION DISASSEMBLY
1) Remove Transmission pinion carrier assembly (6-T-1) leaving the flange on. This assumes that the bearing is good as well as the gear. Disassembled (7-T-1).
To remove the assembly unbolt the retainer found at top of case and remove from slot then unscrew rear adjustor.
2) Remove rear flange and speedometer gear. (8-T-1)
3) the upper shaft and sliding gears can then be removed.
4) Remove 4 bolts lower rear of transmission as well as 4 bolts side cover with reverse gear of course remove both covers. at this point the lower countershaft can be removed.
1st gear is nasty
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After a few beers I remembered it's fathers day soon, so I sent my son over to home depot and had him purchase a new Milwaukee 1/2 inch drive corded electric impact and a set of Lincoln electric oxygen and acetylene tanks for DAD, wow its great being a father today. now do not have to carry these tools back and forth have one in each garage.
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taking apart the replacement trans ran in to obstacle the front flange does not want to come off. my oxygen and acetylene tanks in Chicago of course and I am in Wisconsin. tried to heat with mapp torch no luck. would also like to make a flat plate that bolts to flange with hole in middle to better grab with puller. short of taking it to a boat shop around here and let them pull it will have to wait for Sunday return to Chicago. man I was looking at those tanks before I left and elected to leave them there.
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Scott
you are the best !! will probably take the replacement apart Wednesday will take pics and post. More soon. Stuck at work in Chicago for now.
Ken
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Spinney
Thanks for your comments!! Yes I was driving down a steep hill with some very old ladies in the back seat so I just left it in first and let the gear control the decent. I will never do that again as the load was to much, the gear that lost the tooth is pristine otherwise. I am almost thinking that the gear must of had some defect. I purchased the car from a couple of old timers AACA guys a couple of years ago and they told me only 18500 miles on it. They told me they have been around and owned the car for 40 years. Going to take something apart this week either the trans that broke or the replacement as the first gear is not so nice in that one, its chipped in many places but has all the teeth. Just like me. Hoping to find a replacement gear. Soooo will take my time fixing this problem and drive around in my old Chevy Touring car. Hows things down under !!
Ken
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anyone got 2 of the Studebaker 31899 gears will buy, perhaps RBK over in Joilet area close to my home in sw Chicago 111th Pulaski. Will also consider any 1923 Big six trans with nice gears. Any parts for 1923 Big Six also. Could someone send me a private message as I am thinking something is wrong with my mail box. Perhaps just something wrong with this old man here.
The old man
Ken
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Scott
thank you very much for your help. I am considering all options and your guidance allows me to plan better. I hope to provide help for you some day. I assumed all gears were one unit and now am thinking it might be easier to deal with a single gear problem rather than a larger one unit problem. My EK has low mileage and the inside of the trans that broke is amazingly nice otherwise as all gears except the first gear appear almost new. In contrast the replacement trans looks like someone was not nice with first gear. I have to go back to work in morning but hope to do something later this week.
Ken
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opened up replacement transmission and the planetary or countershaft gears first gear is chipped in many places. I guess its better than a first gear missing a tooth. will probably just swap transmissions and hunt down another planetary or countershaft gear does anyone know if it has to be big six or can it be light six planetary or countershaft gear?????
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Ladies and Gents
after login 1 new message indicted, went to messages nothing there. Perhaps I am doing something wrong.
comments please.
Ken
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got the trans above delivered today via USHIP. this is the 4th time and all great delivery experiences. 120 bucks for pick up ohio delivered to Wisconsin.
looking for that main gear planetary lower gear to replace broken gear so I have extra trans
looking for a big six that would fit 1923 would consider other years I think rbk might have one
also would consider a 1923 rolling chassis with engine and trans etc
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Ladies and Gents
well, finally looked inside trans without any oil and sure as **** there it was a missing tooth on the planetary gear. Anyone got an extra gear? Any comments on repairing this one? Will never drive downhill in first gear again.
workin on it
Ken
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Studeboy
yes, that was my first thought, then I was hoping its the forks, now I can cry in my beer and remove the trans for further examination. Was planning to remove and rebuild my 27 Chevy Sedans engine this summer, off to the backburner. Its to early to have something break, this should happen in October. Thank god I have my other 2 cars to drive around or I would really be crying.
Ken
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Grimy
you got more cars than me !! next week will further examine the trans and forks out of car. I enjoy my cars but am the only one in the garage as no family member has interest. My wife watches movies while I tinker. Am trying to build a pole barn this year as my garage is wall to wall. You must have a huge one. If you were closer would be knocking on your door for some rides. I try to put 300 - 400 miles a year on each car. How about you ? Need some room to expand my tractor collection.
Ken
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