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  1. Hello Everyone I have also posted in the HCCA forums about this questions. Maybe there are others here who could give me some further insights. [TABLE=class: forumline, width: 100%] <tbody>[TR] [TD=class: row1, width: 100%, bgcolor: #EFEFEF][TABLE=width: 100%] <tbody>[TR] [TD=colspan: 2]My grandfather has 3 1914 Overlands and as far we know now none of them have the proper cutout mechanism. The Willys Overland Knight Registry (WOKR) although has essentially all the drawings, except for things they bought for the car and the cutout (so it may have been something they bought). Since we have no drawings we have no exact way of knowing how it was done at the moment with my Grandfather's collection anyway We do have a 4th non-running original 14' car that was an earlier production then the other 3 cars. It has wood hood latch mounts instead of metal ones is how we know, they changed that later in production, not sure how many we made like that though out of the 49k produced. Anyway luckily parts of the cutout actuation mechanism seem to still exist under the car. The cutout switch is mounted on the right side of the front floor boards by the drivers left foot. The mechanical part below the floor has a piece of wire/rope tied together hanging from the switch. Across the car under the left flat floorboard is a sort of double pulley with a pivot in it (I think its been a while since I've looked at it) and although I have not seen it myself on our car. Ed Orr of Florida mentioned that on his car there is an unused single pulley positioned on the underside of the front left angled floorboard. This pulley is positioned directly above the valve on the exhaust muffler. I have not been up to my grandfather's to confirm his car has this or if there is a hole for it, but if it is there perhaps that question can finally be answered. That would mean the switch would be depressed with a rope being pulled taught and then running through one of the 2 rollers on the double pulley using the pivot to switch the direction of the rope. Then the rope runs up to the single pulley and then down to the switch. I do have a bit of concern over the bending moment on the double pulley in this arrangement from pulling the rope taught. I was curious if this was even possible way to activate it using ropes and pulleys. I've seen systems with metal rods and levers, but are the cars or someone with an 14' Overland that still uses this "Pulley" system. All the rollers are made of wood and as I mentioned it used rope so it would explain partly why its been so hard to figure out as its possible many had simply fallen off the cars and rotted away by the time people got to restoring them. I'm sure back in the day they may have just shrugged and said oh well or made there own ways to make it work.[/TD] [/TR] </tbody>[/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] </tbody>[/TABLE]
  2. Sorry I can for certain say that we will not be able to bring the 14' Overland I am sorry , but we really don't have time to get a car ready for that, we will be busy. Good Luck Filling the gaps.
  3. Oh yeah I just remembered this. On a steam car tour back in 2005 one of my friend's stanleys was rear ended by some idiot talking on his cellphone at a stop light. The mercedes was badly damaged, but the steamer came out with a bent exhaust pipe and some scratched paint. Of course that was because the mercedes went up the suspension, no bumper, but it's amazing the steamer took no damage at all. The steamer made it back to the hotel later in the day and went out again the next day.
  4. What I was referring to was less the ability of cars to go fast, you do have a point about expensive cars I was talking more generically. I've rode in 20's cars that can go highway speeds, but I was referring more about how cars looked and though most cars after the 30s could go highway speeds it's just they weren't designed for a comfortable quiet ride at those speeds. After the sixies I feel like cars slowly have become less ascetically pleasing more about power and speed. Even through today there's nothing that can compare ascetically to many cars of the past. What happened to the fins and nice paint jobs and chrome and everything, that made cars really individually stand out. Though many cars do develop quote personalities, but that's sort of owner car thing for most cars. Sorry didn't mean to offend you Desoto.
  5. Wow I'm sorry this happened and amazed the car's condition after the accident. Sorry i don't know how to post pics, never have tried. It's sort of funny how cars are built these days I understand you may have gotten hurt and he didn't, but if you car took that kind of a hit sustaining possibly only body damage that's impressive. It's funny how easy it is total cars these days.
  6. I have informed my father and we are maryland residents can't miss this. WE may be able to bring one of my grandfather's 14' Overlands, but our trailer is currently unlicensed, need to finish dealing with that first will call if we can.
  7. Last Saturday, my father and I went to my grandfather's to get the cars ready for the season and start some of them up. So we started up the TR-6 easy, although the last time we had started it up the battery was totally gone, and then went to the 14' Overlands and put water in there radiators of course being leaky as they usually are. Then, took one of my grandfather's touring cars out. We put new upper and lower water manifold connections in his speedster. Only the top was leaky, but you never know when the other 40 year old one will go. So we spent 2 hours taking the front half of the car apart and putting it back together because of the difficulty of access to the lower connection. We haven't started the speedster, but I'm sure it will start. My dad and I have been working on it the last year adjusting things, making improvements so it will run better. We finally got rid of the 20 year old gasoline, which really helped it take less than 5 minutes of cranking to start with the mediocre battery.
  8. My grandfather owns 3 14' Overlands. I also work with some stanleys. I call any car older than the 1930s antique or old myself. Then from 30s-60s I feel are classic cars. Then after that they are just a decade car to me 70s car, 80s..., etc. I'm not trying to offend anyone by saying wha I'm gonna say next, but I feel by the late 60s, 70s cars can run pretty much like modern cars on modern roads in modern day traffic essentially like modern cars and look like modern day cars, the main difference is the maintenance. Like someone has said a 80s car isn't really antique when compared with something like a 14' Overland. I feel the word collectable depends on the person and the number of cars. If you have more than two or three cars of the same or multiple types then you have a collection. The organization that owns the Stanleys I work with has a Stanley Collection with 12 Stanley Steamers.
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