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Many thanks to all who contributed to the Estate of Harold Wintz auction held in early May. We, Harold's daughters and executors of the estate, are very pleased with the sale of all Dad's cars to good homes. Being a part of the Chandler Cleveland Motor Club was a very special part of Dad's life, so knowing that his 2 Chandlers are now part of other Chandler enthusiasts' collections is wonderful. We hope to see them both "down the road" someday.

With mixed emotions, we are going to have an auction of the Harold Wintz Collection of cars which includes his 1914 Chandler Touring that he has been driving and showing for many years and the partially restored 1914 Chandler that he had been working on recently. This auction will be in Clarion, IA, on May 4, 2019 at 10 am. Preview on May 3 from 4-7 pm. Hallberg Auctions will be handling the auction. Please go to their web site to view the descriptions and catalog of items including several other antique, classic, and other vehicles. https://hallbergauction.hibid.com/preview/154386/auction-for-harold-wintz-estate/. Online bidding for the vehicles will be available. The auction will also include car parts, car literature, car memorabilia, and auto body repair and restoration shop tools and equipment. Harold (Dad) loved his cars, all the shows, and all the tours that he and his wife Rose went on. I (daughter Marie) was able to join him in the more recent years, so I also know how wonderful it is to be a part of the antique car hobby. This auction will be a culmination and celebration of over 65 years of Harold (and his family) being a part of so many aspects of the antique car hobby.

Does anyone know about the 1928 Chandler touring that is advertised in the October 2017 issue of Hemmings? There are some good photos of it on the Hemmings web site, too. From the serial number listed in the ad, it is a 1928.

These are great pictures. According to our list of the Chandler Cleveland Club membership directory, there is one member who has a 1918 Chandler 7 passenger and lives in NSW Australia. There is another member who lives in New Zealand who was an 1918 Chandler touring. Maybe they know who this car belongs to. It would be nice to know who owns this car and what the serial number is - we keep track of this information. From the photos, it probably is a 1919, but to be sure, we would need to know the serial number. There were not a lot of changes from 1918 to 1919. Thanks, Harold Wintz Owner of two 1914 Chandler touring cars.

Chris, Thanks for the note about the centerfold. It's a honor to be featured! (We read your messages in backwards order, so we didn't see this one until we sent the reply to the message about your new car.) The centerfold picture was taken on the Dakota Trails Tour, and that article (story and more pictures) was in the January/February 2014 issue of the Horseless Carriage Gazette. The tour was in September of 2013 in South Dakota. It was a great tour with many of very nice early automobiles, and, as usual, great people to visit with. Harold and Marie

Hello Chris, Interesting photos! Dad says he has no pictures of a 1914 sedan; he only has photos for a touring body. In the 1914 instruction book that Dad has, it shows a touring and a roadster. In the back it does talk about other models - they list coupe, limousine, and a sedan. Then it says, "Information on request." Ha! Ha! In the 1915 instruction book that Dad has, it shows pictures of all models including the center door with the curved glass. From the picture in the 1915 book, it looks like the cowl is much shorter than what your car looks like it has. What a great adventure you will have figuring all of this out. Keep us posted. By the way, if you want to see a better photo of Dad's 1914 Chandler Model 15, it is the centerfold for the November/December issue of the Horseless Carriage Gazette. We were so surprised and very proud. Harold Wintz via daughter Marie

Thanks! Dad will give them a call and give it a try.

Dad has looked at the McMaster catalog and called and talked to them. They don't have what he is looking for. He says he's still playing around, so he doesn't know how much he might want to have. Let us know here when you find something that might work, and we'll figure out a way to talk. We check the forum when I'm at Dad's house, so he can see what is on the posts. - about every two weeks or so - Thank you!

Thanks Chris, However the 1/4" size is too big. Let me know if you run across any that is smaller. Harold (via Marie's computer)

The old style packing (graphite with 3 strands twisted together) doesn't seem to last anymore. I'm looking for the Teflon packing in 3/16ths diameter or 1/8th inch. None of the places around here that I have called seems to know anything about the Teflon packing. I can't use the kind that is square.

Hello all, Dad (Harold Wintz) is looking for information about packing material for the water pump on his 1914 Chandler 15 touring. Has anyone used the Teflon packing? It was suggested by someone in Florida, but we can't find it here in Iowa. Whatever suggestions or ideas anyone has would be welcome. from Harold's daughter, Marie

Hello Chris, Dad looked up information about the body style and found a listing from the Standard Catalogue of American Cars (p.254). It has a picture of a 1916 Chandler Six sedan that has a center door body very much like the one in your picture. The catalogue lists all the body styles that were available in 1916 (5 passenger touring, roadster, Limo, sedan, convertible sedan, coupe, and cabriolet.) This book has only one picture from each year of production, but sadly, only one picture per year. By the way, his 1914 Chandler 15 touring has had its work out over the past summer - two HCCA tours (about 1000 miles total) and one national AACA show where it got another preservation award and the AACA Century Medallion. It has been a lot of fun! Keep us posted on your progress. from Harold's daughter, Marie

Hello Jon, Thank you for your reply. We are looking for the serial number of the car - like a modern day VIN. The 1920 Chandler cars had serial numbers from 82000 to 106000. Some serial numbers are right on the engine, and some are listed on the title of the car, too. Some of the Chandlers in the later 1920s had the serial number on the fire wall. We're not sure when they changed from putting the number on the engine to putting it on the fire wall. If you can, we certainly would appreciate having the serial number for your Chandler to add to the Club's list. Thanks again, H. Wintz

Hello, Do you know if your 1928 Chandler Eight is listed in the data base of all known Chandler and Cleveland autos that the Chandler Cleveland Motor Club has? If you could send the serial number along with your name and location, it could be added to the list. Thank you, H. Wintz

Hello, Is your 1920 Chandler touring car listed in the data base of all known Chandler autos that is kept by the Chandler Cleveland Motor Club? Perhaps you could send the serial number along with your name and location, and it can be added to the list. Thank you, H. Wintz

Hello, We noticed that your 1925 Chandler does not seem to be listed in the data base that the Chandler Cleveland Motor Club has of all known Chandler and Cleveland autos. Could you send the serial number, so it could be added to the list? Thank you. H. Wintz

Hello, Did you get your hood latches figured out? I could send you a picture of the hood and latches from my 1914 Chandler if you still need some information. H.Wintz

I just purchased the housing with the points, but no rotor. I would like to get a picture of the rotor and various parts so I can restore it. This ignition timer was made in New Holstein, WI in the 1920's. It looks like it would be an ideal timer for a Model T, and I sure could put it to good use.

Sadly, the 2010 Chandler Cleveland Tour in Iowa previously scheduled for June 14-17 HAS BEEN CANCELED. An insufficient number of registrations were received. We appreciate those of you who did send in a registration. You will be contacted personally to make arrangements for the return of your payment.

Are you coming to Iowa in June? Our snow is gone; taxes are done, and summer is coming soon! Now is the time to get your registration sent in for the 2010 Chandler Cleveland Tour. Registration deadline is May 1st! DON'T MISS THIS ONE OF A KIND TOUR! June 14-17 - Decorah, Iowa Send registration to: Harold Wintz, Box 242, Clarion, Iowa 50525 Questions - call 515-532-3245 (best time - noon- 1:00 CDT or evenings after 6:00 PM)

ANNOUNCEMENT! NEW DATES FOR THE 2010 CHANDLER CLEVELAND IOWA TOUR - JUNE 14-17 Host Motel: Country Inn Suites 1202 Highway 9 West , Decorah IA 52101 Reservations: (888) 201-1746 Telephone: (563) 382-9646 Fax: (563) 382-4201 A block of 25 rooms held until May 15, 2010. Rate - $86 plus tax. From Rochester, MN -- about 65 miles south. From La Crosse, WI – about 65 miles west. (The change is due to hotel scheduling.) Events will be the same as the original posting described. However, they will now start on Monday, June 14, and conclude on Thursday, June 17. We are so pleased to be hosting this tour, and we hope you will be able to come spend a few days with us enjoying the Norwegian and Czech heritage, the antiques, the history, the shopping, and the great scenery of northeast Iowa. We have some surprises in store. There will be ooohs, ahhs, smiles, and lots of great food in our "Fields of Opportunities." Registration materials will be available soon. You may contact Harold directly or through his daughter's email, or relpy here with any questions.</O:p

SEE NEW ANNOUNCEMENT BELOW THIS ONE. Below is the preliminary information from Harold Wintz for next year’s get together. An email will be sent (using his daughter's email) in the near future to all members with an email listed in the membership list. Harold would like a response indicating your interest in attending, so he can proceed with the plans. Replies to this request will go to kelch7@mchsi.com. CHANDLER-CLEVELAND TOUR 2010, DECORAH, IOWA, JUNE 15-18. We will be traveling the back roads, through the hills and hollers of North East Iowa sampling Czech and Norwegian culture and food. Mansions, churches, butterflies, clocks, seeds, and the Little House on the Prairie. Tuesday registration in the afternoon with evening mixer with traditional Norwegian food. WEDNESDAY tour to Burr Oak (Laura Ingalls Wilder childhood home) What’s New antique store (in a remodeled 3 story barn) Seed Savers Heritage Farm (preserving heirloom seeds and Ancient White Park cattle) Vesterheim Norwegian American Museum and Dunning Springs (200 foot natural waterfall.)THURSDAY tour to Spillville to the Bily Clocks and the oldest Czech church in the US with lunch in Spillville (a traditional homemade Czech menu) Fort Atkinson (1840 US fort built to protect the Winnebago Indians) St. Anthony Padua Chapel (the world’s smallest church) Porter House Museum (an 1867 Italianate villa that houses unique collection of exotic butterflies and rocks & minerals). FRIDAY tour to Clermont to visit Montauk (the 1874 mansion home of the 12<SUP>th</SUP> governor of Iowa), concert on the 1896 pipe organ at the Union Sunday School, lunch at the Quarry and shopping at the town’s specialty shops, and closing evening banquet.