Thanks for the help Guys I really appreciate it! I still have not brought the others out of spider land yet but I plan too just as soon as I can't put it off any longer : ) I know some were a bit newer an ever ready design that I've been able to find pics of online. You guys are awesome! thanks again!! and Mr. Moskowitz I'll let you know the plan. If Chris is right and they will just bring a few dollars I may keep one cause it does look kinda cool on my bookshelf and I'll just send you one.