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  1. Hi Guy

    These are the only difference between a half ton and a bigger cab I know of.

    1. A half ton have smaller opening in the cowl but the outside dimensions are the same and it looks like they are from the same stamping tool.

    2. The floor board has a different angle.

    3. A half ton has 2 radiator support bracket and the bigger has 1 in the middle.

    Everything else seems to be the same. The photos show my bigger cab mounted on a half ton chassis. The inside panel were the sun visors are attached (in the first photo) is from a 1933 4dr and every hole matched the cab. The hood is also from a half ton and fit quite well as you can see. I ordered the windshield frame for a 1933-34 half ton pickup and it fits like a glove

    I took the pictures yesterday and I hope they explain what I mean.

    Gunnar

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  2. KCL, I think you misunderstood me. I mean that the radiator shell is Dodge 1/2 ton (modified) but the radiator shell insert is 1933 Plymouth. Look at the upper part of the vertical bars and you can see that the slope matches Plymouth shape as well as the round crank hole.

  3. Hi Guy, you have a 1 1/2 ton or 2 ton cab. If you look in the picture and compare distance A and B you can easily see the difference. Then your cab has the 2 radiator support bracket from a 1/2 ton pickup. The bigger truck has one bracket in the middle.

    The grille insert is most likely from a 1933 Plymouth.

    My bigger cab to the left have line registration number B-2-2-LR15001 and the dashboard is the 33' type as yours.

    Gunnar

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  4. KCL, this are the only original body tags I have. Valbo Verkstads Aktiebolag is the name of the company who made the cab and the other tag is the line registration number as you already know. Second photo is from a local newspaper and shows what mine looked like back in the thirties but it's not mine.

    When I looked for parts I found a second Dodge KCL built in Sweden but with another body. Now it's in my garage and I can show you pictures of it later or maybe start another thread. Send me a PM if you want my e-mail address.

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  5. Hi DodgeKCL

    I agree there's a lot of confusion about model years and I don't know all about it but maybe both you and I are right.

    The following is from "Dodge Pickups, History and Restoration Guide 1918-1971":

    1934 KC Series

    Businessmen and farmers agreed with Dodge that their Commercial Cars were the "handsomest delivery cars ever seen on any highway," as the brochures stated. Indeed, the sales recovery that began in 1933 leaped ahead in 1934 in spite of the severe depression. Continuing with a good thing begun in 1933, the 1934 pickup remained the same in appearance, but was mechanically improved.

    As the 1933 new models were midyear introductions, most changes for 1934 also occurred well into the new model year. The only exception was that the new models - Commercial Canopy, Commercial Screenside and Westchester Suburban - were ready at the beginning of the model year. All other changes and improvements were phased in about January 1, 1934. The front axle changed to a beefy, drop-forged, I-beam type in place of the former tubular type. Engine size was increased to a bore and stroke of 31/8x43/8 in. or 201.3 ci. Compression ratio increased to 5.8:1, increasing torque to 136 Ib-ft. The rear-axle ratio was reduced to 4.11:1 from 4.37:1. A new instrument panel was also added.

    If that's true then Dodges built nov/dec 1933 still looks like a 1933 but should be registered as a 1934.

    I haven't seen any official paper when the 1934 model year started so it's my conclusion.

    I found that officially 1935 production started 1 October 1934 with serial number 8042422 (was it you who uploaded that document?). Anyway before I read that document I thought I had a 1934 Dodge. It says so in the registration paper but my serial number is just a little bit higher so probably its built okt/nov 1934 and should have been registered as a 1935. It has almost the same instrument cluster as yours. My Dodge is built in Sweden and I attached a very old b/w photo.

    Gunnar

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  6. Hi

    I'm not sure if the long fenders fit your truck. Most of the sheet metal is the same as DP-cars but they came in 2 versions. The following text is from "The Dodge story":

    " The new Dodge Series DP Six was mounted on a 111 ¼ inch wheelbase and was available in six body styles with prices starting at $595 and going up to $695. The new Series DP Six announced later in the year (April 5, 1933) also consisted of six body types with prices the same as those for the earlier series. But these latter Series DP models featured a longer, 115-inch wheelbase, and replaced former DP Series."

    HC/KC trucks have 111 ¼ inch wheelbase so I guess they share parts with the short wheelbase DP. I think you should measure the length of the fenders before you buy them (and let us now if I'm right or wrong).

    Then I think your truck could be from 1933 or 1934 as they should have the same instrument cluster as far as I know.

    I scanned this article from Collectible Automobile december 2002 which you may find interesting.

    Gunnar

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  7. Hi,

    All half-ton or Commercials as Dodge called them shared most of the parts with 1933 passenger cars. The crank hole cover were almost oval with a stamped six in it. The larger trucks had a round plain crank hole cover.

    The handle picture shows some of my small parts. The upper left window cranks are 1933 passenger. I don't know if the Commercials and Trucks are the same.

    I think the three in the middle bottom row are from 1934, but I'm not shure.

    As far as I know are the door handles and estucheons the same in 1933-34 and you can see them in the middle upper row.

    Gunnar

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  8. Thanks you both for your information. The bearings are almost the same, front and rear. Front is 6207 Z NR and rear is 6207 and I have no problem to find them. I've even worked at a bearing company several years ago :)

    It's the bottom shaft where the needle rollers are, which is worn but if it's the same as Plymouth and other Dodges I guess my chances to find one is much better. At least I know what to look for.

    Gunnar

  9. Hi all. When I took a short test ride with my pickup the gearbox was leaking. I've disassembled it and now I'm looking for bottom shaft and tail shaft seal. Does anybody know if it's the same gearbox in the pickup as the other body styles?

    My pickup is a low mileage 1935 Dodge KCL and the engine is a T12. Gearbox is a 3-speed but I can't find any id-tag. Casting number is 6-27 and 31841-1.

    My local parts supplier couldn't help this time so my second question is if you know where I can find parts.

    Thanks, Gunnar

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  10. My 1935 KCL 1/2 ton have caps without the raised ends. It's a flatfaced cowl with a body built in sweden at "Kabo karosseri AB".

    DodgeKCL - My caps are in used condition and I haven't tried to straighten them yet, so I may need some. How much do you want for a good cap?

    Gunnar

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