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Guys, I'm truly sorry for ever starting this thread. I clearly don't know what I'm talking about. I'm afraid that age has taken it's toll. If the moderator wants to delete this whole thing, I'd certainly understand.

Sorry, Joe. I should have done some research first. I've been lingering the impression (wrong, apparently) that it was a derivative of an Isuzu or something or another.

Dang it, I feel like I recognize it. It's funny, but I was thinking Nash, too. How long is it?

I guess, for my part, the Aztec arrived at a time when I had, and still do have, diminished expectations regarding automotive styling in general. Also, it's foreign roots seem to somewhat diminish the blame the for it's ugly design. Don't get me wrong, it's hideous. I guess that I've always thought that the '42 Olds was sort of the ultimate "ugly" in that brief era of styling insanity just before the war. I find a lot of cars of that era disappointing. I believe that the most beautiful American cars were built form the mid thirties until the war. I've just never understood what went wrong at the end of that time span and perhaps the '42 Olds is just the ultimate example of Detroit's sudden loss of good taste. A person doesn't have to be a big Ford fan to wish that they hadn't abandoned the looks of the '40 in favor of the '41. I wouldn't mind living in a world where the '40 Ford went on with few changes for a couple of more years. I like Oldsmobiles and I sure don't let this particular aberration deter me from my admiration of the marque. I think that within the structure of GM they did an interesting thing with the tail light placement on the '37 or '38 and I've always admired the brave dashboard design of the '38s. Also, I find that their postwar grilles are beautifully understated designs. '37 Olds tail lights: '38 Olds dash: Postwar grille:

Here's an opportunity for one of you nice folks to own GMs homeliest (some might say, ugliest) car. Someone in the great state of Wyoming is selling a '42 Oldsmobile on their local Craigslist. I never miss an opportunity to shine a light on these cars because their front end design so very baffling. As I've said before in past posts, their bumper (look at those pointy teeth), grille, and hood ornament look like submissions from several different angry committees. You could rechrome it, polish the stainless or paint it flat black, but nothing would make this laughable hodgepodge of competing design elements look good unless it was removed all together. The Olds for sale is missing it's hood ornament, so I included a picture of another Olds from Google. Even it (the hood ornament) looks like something that flew into the hood and made a stain. Nevertherless, I'm open to other views. If you find it attractive, could you please say why? http://wyoming.craigslist.org/cto/4932439980.html http://images.craigslist.org/00y0y_62quEpx3DW0_600x450.jpg http://www.collectorcardealer.com/1942%20Olds%20Coupe/P1005039.jpg

Here's a Craigslist offering from someone in Wyoming. He's only asking $30 for them. He doesn't say anything about shipping, but there's a price for everything: http://wyoming.craigslist.org/atq/4986814287.html

Here's a Chevy that I just came across on Craigslist -- Nebraska. Big project, but super cute body style: http://omaha.craigslist.org/cto/5007712361.html Here's a picture of a restored on Google:

Here's a Craigslist treat from Nebraska. There isn't a lot of anything '32, so maybe this would be of some interest to one of you: http://omaha.craigslist.org/cto/4988364589.html

I just came across a Craigslist ad for some '39 Dodge parts for sale in upper Michigan. He's offering what looks like some nice hub caps, if they are correct for a '39: http://up.craigslist.org/pts/4988545404.html

I just came across a Craigslist ad for some '39 Dodge parts in the U P. Maybe he has some items for you: http://up.craigslist.org/pts/4988545404.html

Hilarious! (even if you didn't mean it to be.)

Try this "Google Images" search: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1201&bih=648&q=1955+Buick+roadmaster&oq=1955+Buick+roadmaster&gs_l=img.3..0l6j0i30j0i24l3.1715.11580.0.12317.21.12.0.9.9.0.76.856.12.12.0.msedr...0...1ac.1.64.img..0.21.962.WOehSCT-8_I There are several two tone Buicks there and they all adhere to the same style of two-toning. I feel there are enough to safely assume the factory scheme.

Quote: "That 1935 Pontiac ( second to the last picture) is a all steel." Perhaps the gradual conversion over to all metal bodies started with more premium nameplates, but it could also have been at different times in different factories (I'm talking through my hat there. I don't know if GM had different factories at that time). I had a '36 Master Sedan with doors that wobbled, and later a '36 Master five window which some prior owner had installed a hockey stick in the driver's door for strength. After that I began to admire Chrysler Products!

Strombergs were the better carb, no doubt.

I don't know enough about GM cars to contribute a lot here, but I think that in 1935 Chevrolet continued to use the '34 body on the "Standard" models, while the "Master" models came with the newer (turret top) body. The turret top body still continued to be metal wrapped around wood until that midpoint of '36 that I previously mentioned. That same '35 Master body (perhaps in more modern terms, the "B" body) is, I think, one of the most beautiful sedan bodies of the pre war era. I think it's first appearance was in the '34 Cadillac LaSalle. There it still had a one piece windshield. I don't recall if an outside trunk was an option yet or not: Here it is in a '35 LaSalle, this time with a two piece windshield and an outside trunk and no front suicide doors: Here's a '35 Chevrolet Master: A '35 Pontiac: A '35 Olds: GM continued to use that body in '36, but made the front doors rear opening. I'm not obsessed with suicide doors usually, but I think that they really add to this particular bodies handsome looks. For some reason, Cadillac and Buick didn't use the new body for '35, but, it appears, continued to use the same body (with the fabric roof insert) that they used in '34. I'm not a GM expert, so if I've made a mistake here, please correct me.

Ivan, the Marmon that you reference is probably the one which is now offered at a starting bid of $14,500. It appears that each time the seller relists the car, he offers it a price that is appreciably lower than his last. It looks like a very nicer "driver" status car. I don't know at what price the car will sell, but it will be interesting to follow it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-FOUR-DOOR-SEDAN-ORIGINAL-/111658923727?vxp=mtr

Washington Blue has always been my favorite blue in the prewar era. It really is a perfect, balanced color and it looks great on Fords (and others) of many body styles and vintages. I, personally, would have chosen the same.

I'm glad you agree. It's one thing if the factory used poor judgment naming that color, but I'd feel awfully bad for the owner (or restorer) of the Cadillac if that color was the result of some mistake in mixing the color. I'm sure that sort of thing can happen.

I just came across a car that reminded me of my comment earlier in this thread about how the incremental addition of red pigment to blue paint can rapidly turn the result to violet. Here's a '57 Cad for sale which is painted "Midnight Blue". Maybe it's an accurate rendition of a factory color, but for my money there's nothing "midnight" about. I find it sort like an Easter egg color. http://desmoines.ebayclassifieds.com/m/ViewLargeImage?adid=31772890

Sorry, I remember being told years ago that it was the same as an Austin Marina. Whatever my source was, it was clearly faulty.

The name came back to me, Austin Marina was the same car.

Here's a picture of a '36 Dodge hub cap from Google. Here's a fake one:

All of the above are great suggestions. I'll add that the flexible fuel line from the frame to the fuel pump will do exactly what you are describing. If you bought a NOS fuel line for it, it could useless (most of them are) because of age. I should have been a little clearer. The flexible hose can collapse from age, though often only when there is suction on it. Once the suction is gone, it will go back to it's original round shape allowing you to see through it. Equally important, however, is that many of those vintage (but NOS) fuel lines are so brittle that they develop cracks from just bending snd installing them, thus causing the fuel pump to draw air instead of fuel.

Ivan, thank you for your story and your insight. I value both immensely. It sounds like the Junior 8 is an interesting, nice enough quality car in it's own right, although not at all in the same category as "real" Locomobiles. Perhaps someone reading this will have enough interest to pursue it further.