Scooter Guy

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  1. One of the very important things for Ebay sellers to remember (especially those that are only occasional sellers): the terms you put in the auction listing or description DO NOT MATTER. Ebay's overarching policy trumps any terms you spell out including returns and refunds. If your terms are contradictory to Ebay policy, it doesn't matter how many times you state it in your listing, you will NOT win a dispute with an unhappy buyer that wants a refund or wants to return the item. Period. Just another thing to remember when doing business the Ebay way!
  2. That exact truck in the picture is real, as in it exists. It is not photoshopped. I've seen it in person many times. It didn't start out life as a cab-over truck, but was converted at a later date. I don't know who did the conversion / what company made the parts / exactly when it was done, but it was well done. It runs and drives just fine. There was a matching horse trailer with it originally that no longer exists. It it owned by the City of Farmers Branch, Texas. Glad Acres Farm was a horse ranch that was within the city limits of Farmers Branch, Texas. The ranch is long gone and the city is yet another suburb in the greater Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex area. The truck is kept at Farmers Branch Historical Park (free, open to the public year-round) inside of a re-created old Texaco station. They have period photos of the truck before and after the conversion as well. Worth a visit if you're in the area.
  3. I am of the "younger" set, age between 30-40. This, in my opinion, should be the age group to target. Consider the following... 1. Don't call people younger than you "kids." The term is constantly used on this forum and others like it in a demeaning and disrespectful way, especially when you're typically talking about folks 30 and under. Would you like it if the young people constantly referred to all of you over 50 men as "gramps" or "geezer" or "old farts?" C' them a little respect and you might be surprised. Constantly acting like you're disgusted by their mere presence does NOTHING to encourage younger membership. 2. It's about money. Most young people can't afford to be in this hobby. There, I said it...this is, in my opinion, barrier number 1 to new membership. Young people aren't going to join a club that they can't really participate in and don't really belong in. The fact of the matter is that the unwritten "cost of entry" into the hobby is that you've got to own an old car. The younger set just doesn't have the money. They are too busy paying for college, job hunting, getting married, buying a first house, and making payments on their daily driver that they don't have the extra cash to have an old car. This is why the age demographic of the club is what it takes time to accumulate the money to participate in the hobby. Most young people don't even own a house, so storage/garage/workshop becomes an can't drive a restoration project to work when it's in a million pieces and you can't restore a car in an apartment parking lot. 3. Times are different than they used to be. Shop class is a rare thing, tech schools and avocational programs are looked down upon. Cars these days that young people encounter every day are just as much computer as they are mechanical. Something goes to the dealership it chance of working on it at home! So, young people don't develop the skills or have the tools to work on an old vehicle. Young people might have different taste than you do and might drive a tuner car, want a street rod, or to build a "resto-mod" Mustang, Camaro, or '57 Chevy and there's nothing wrong with that. I just think that expecting young people to participate in an expensive hobby and to go on to expect them to become club members is not realistic at all. I'll be so bold as to say that most clubs are frankly wasting their time trying to figure out how to recruit young people and keep them happy; when they have the time and the money they'll come to you if they're interested. Forcing the issue is just wasting time and money.
  4. This is the place to go: The primary parts source is Wayne Mahaffey in Alabama. His contact information can be found at the link above along with a forum full of good people that know Simplex Servi-Cycles.
  5. Ok, what you have is not a Doodle Bug scooter as is being discussed in this thread here on the forum. What you have is a 1960s-1970s minibike of some sort. There were many brands and manufacturers back then. I can't help you much with that...not the type of machine I deal with. I'd suggest visiting where they will be able to identify what you have and work through whatever questions you might have.
  6. Danimal- A photo would help tremendously to identify what you have on your hands. It is not terribly uncommon for the frames to have been modified and/or painted over the years. The id tag was riveted to the inside edge of the fork tube, facing the engine, but they are frequently missing or illegible. Unfortunately, those were the only identification marks on the frame, nothing else was cast or stamped in. However, if your scooter does have a tag, make a note of everything it says exactly as it is stamped and let me know...I can tell you a lot about your frame based just on that little tag. In any case, I'd love to see a photo.
  7. There were several frames, many different steps, and many more types of bodies that could have been fitted. There were not for a specific year or make of motorcycle. EDIT: I *think* you might have the earliest version on your hands, a 1920-1923 frame, before they relocated and before they (eventually) worked in cooperation with Harley Davidson. By the way, you won't be able to post on the AMCA site (antique motorcycles) unless you're a member of the organization. Check here:
  8. The guys on the CAI -Classic American Iron - forum (since you probably don't want to join the AMCA) are probably your best bet for positively identifying what you have. I know what some of it is (not interested in buying any of it myself), but those guys would know for sure and you'd have people lined up to buy that stuff if it's for sale. Maybe you've already made commitments to the folks here, which is fine...if not, ask on the CAI forum with those pics. You'll be shocked by the responses!
  9. Just because something is "rare" (or even one of a kind) doesn't mean it's valuable or "worth more." Rarity can help drive value up, but is not the only factor by any means and plenty of rare stuff isn't terribly valuable at all. Just don't put too much stock in something being "rare..." there's more to it than that.
  10. That's interesting. Auctionzip is one of the larger, more reputable, and more reliable facilitators of online bidding for a lot of smaller auction companies. I would personally be more inclined to bid in an Auctionzip facilitated auction that I would be to bid through the auction house's own proprietary system. Overall though, I don't feel that online bidding for live auctions works well. I've "lost" items when the computer has logged my bids (correctly) at higher prices than the auctioneer dropped the hammer on to an "in the room bidder." In one case I had an auction company (which I will not name) tell a friend that found himself in the same situation that if he was a "serious bidder" he should have gotten on a plane a flown in for the auction rather than bid online! If that's the stance an auction company wants to take regarding a failure of their own online bidding system, I am not interested in participating. There are many, many other places where I can go a gladly have businesses take my money without the headache! Coral99 - I did take the survey.
  11. Perhaps it's stating the obvious here, but I think we've clouded the waters a bit... Rare and desirable are two different things. Yes, 1 of 1 is (obviously) rare. It doesn't really matter if you figure 1 of 1 based on paint color, radios, engines, etc., etc. I have two modern, daily driver cars that are 1 of 1 provided that I get far enough into the list of options and use them as the basis for my 1 of 1 claim. 1 of 1 being desirable is a whole different question. A car that is 1 of 1 might not be in demand at all or might not be in demand any more than the other 50,000 examples of a given car that are configured slightly differently. This thread is really confusing the two terms. Yes, the car that is the subject of the original post is "rare" in a (I think) technical and extreme sense. Is it any more desirable than any other of the same make and model? I would say "no" just as most of the rest of you are saying.
  12. My experience is that online bidding for live auctions leaves a lot to be desired. The bidding programs and software many auction houses use is frankly just terrible: antiquated, slow, error/glitch prone, etc. Also remember that online bidding for live auctions requires that someone be on the other end with a working connection, computer, and software to be able to accept your bid and make sure that it is conveyed to the auctioneer. THAT is usually where the biggest problem is in my experience...the auctions often move so quickly that real internet bids cannot keep up or the auctioneer drops the hammer to an "in the room" buyer even though there may well have been a higher bidder online whose bid may not have been registered by the auctioneer. It happens all the time. I have been burned too many times and in too many different ways to bother with online bidding for live auctions anymore. I do bid and buy on eBay's a whole different animal. They "get" online auctions. There is actually good customer support there that leans heavily towards the buyer in the event that things go bad. I've never had a situation that went bad and/or that eBay customer service didn't make right for me. My experience doing the online bidding for live auctions is almost completely the opposite.
  13. I am as much a preservationist and a history buff as anyone (heck, I have a degree in it - for what that's worth), so let's get that out of the way before I say anything else. Therefore, with that said... It's easy to be critical of someone's decision to throw in the towel when you're looking in from the outside. It doesn't matter if it's crushing cars, demolishing 'historic' buildings or what have you. Mostly it is very easy to condemn such actions when it's not your private property and isn't your money invested in it. As much as I hate to see neat old "stuff" lost and gone forever, I have learned over the years to step back and realize that you (that's the collective 'you') just can't save it all. The only thing an individual can do to stop the crushing of entire yards is to go in and buy the cars and haul them off to your property. That's it. I can certainly understand the allure of the scrap man. Very much a "bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" situation. Scrap price for the car immediately or wait indefinitely to see if you can do one better.
  14. Your comments point towards you being a young person. If that is the case... I don't want to be a complete and total buzz kill here, but want to ask if you've considered the insurance implications of your purchase. The short version is expect to pay a lot if you're a young man owning and driving a high performance (ie big block) car. As a young, inexperienced driver you'll pay out the nose to drive a "old" car without modern safety features that insurance companies love: airbags, anti-lock brakes, traction control, IIHS crash test ratings and so on. Then there is the power: big engines = big $$$$ in insurance premiums. Some companies may not even bother to quote you a rate. Then, pick up a ticket or two or have an accident and expect to either have your insurance cancelled or have the rate skyrocket even further. It is definitely something you should factor into the "is this practical and can I afford it" debate you'll need to have with yourself.
  15. Huh. Interesting. Maybe I'm the only one, but I have never considered Jay Leno to be a dyed in the wool "purist" when it comes to cars. He owns just about everything under the sun: steamers to jet powered and everything in between. Some original, some restored, and even some hot rods and customs. He's a car guy...he seemingly just loves them all. He is equally at home at Pebble Beach or the LA Roadster Show; good for him. I'm right there with him...I am just a car guy. I like just about all of them. Personally I think more of us could follow Jay's example and just be "car guys."
  16. It's a TV show. As much as I like the show overall, I know that these guys aren't really making money on their "picks." There is no way making a few hundred dollars here and there on an item can support two people on the road, a third person at the shop, the other overhead of operating retail stores (two of them actually), and travel costs (van, fuel, and so on). Plus there are 6-8 other people that actually 'work' in each shop that never make the TV show...gotta pay them too! Instead, they are paying the bills by doing the TV show and selling Antique Archaeology logo merchandise (t-shirts, coffee mugs, etc.) and their shops. Most of the really great stuff (especially if it is motorcycle or gas/oil) they keep for themselves. The little they do let go of is pretty high priced, but's not truly where they are making their money: the show pays the bills (along with the merchandise and book deals). I try to just look past that and enjoy the show for what it is. As far as car TV shows go, I'd watch any of them before I'd watch most of the garbage on TV these days. I have zero interest in "reality" shows, sing-offs, dance-off, tabloid news, sit-coms, most made-for-tv dramas and so forth. A bad car show is always better than a "good" reality the very least I can get a laugh or two out of it.
  17. That seems more like a 'warranty repair' or 'technical service bulletin' situation. If we're discussing those, I know that the little motor scooters that I like were subject to such and that was as early as 1946-1947. Just like you mentioned, the dealers received notice, not the end users. If scooters were receiving these, surely cars were too and 1947 couldn't have been the first. Not government mandated recalls, but manufacturer recalls and service notices.
  18. I read the article. It seems to me that the whole point was that high auction prices have raised the general level of awareness for the potential value of collector cars and as a result more and more vehicles are being stored and/or preserved in some sort of future attempt to ride that wave and cash in for the benefit of the "every man" type. I'm sure that one could probably cite examples of that, but I'm not sure it's as widespread as the article implies. It seems to me that it's just another way to spin the fact that high auction prices DO have a trickle down effect, but the part they don't really touch on is that the virtue of the very argument made in the article means higher prices for the "lesser" stuff the article is touching on. The TV effect is similar...televised auctions and shows like American Pickers drive up awareness (and thus prices) on the stuff we're after all the time though it would be hard to quantify just how much and how significant that really is.
  19. I wonder if anyone over at the Barber Museum would know anything about the Premocar, as they are in Birmingham??? Worth a shot!
  20. Maybe this one is legit (and let's hope it is), but these kinds of things end up on automotive & motorcycle message boards all the time and some of them are scams to get folks to donate parts, tools, or even cash. This has all the makings of that: 1. A "kid" that claims to know nothing about cars 2. Mentions some sought-after and specific year and model of car they want 3. Claims to have no money and no tools 4. Mentions current late model vehicle they are "learning" on (despite knowing nothing and having no tools???) 5. Rarely or never answers follow up questions or is never heard from again 6. Might pop up in another thread with ideas for a completely different vehicle they can get "cheap." Just look at this one: in 3 days he goes from a '65 LeSabre Custom to a MGB? Obviously I'm pretty darn skeptical of this sort of thing. I'm more of the "work hard, save your money, and pay cash for what you want" type. I do realize this poster did not come here asking for a handout and that I'll be labeled a curmudgeon for even mentioning this stuff, but it's got all of the ingredients of a potential scam setup. Maybe totally unintentional, but they're still there. I've read quite a few accounts over the years like AlCapone's: members feel sorry and they send stuff off into the great unknown to "help out." The kid turns out to be a 20 or 30 something that's playing the sympathy card and doesn't think they should have to work for anything. If this is legit, my advice would actually be to NOT buy anything right now. Instead, I'd advise saving some money, buying a quality, BASIC set of tools (you do not need Snap-On, Mac, Matco, or Cornwall tools...Craftsman work just fine), and doing A LOT of research, reading, and learning before buying anything as the original poster does not seem to really have the means to afford the buy-in and ongoing costs of the hobby.
  21. I sure don't mean to seem rude, but I can't imagine that I'd ever spend $1000 on ANYTHING unless I already knew exactly what it was. If you have to ask, it's probably not a good purchase for you.
  22. The 303 products that sfair linked to are really good. I'd highly recommend their product line, and if nothing else, using the 303 Aerospace Protectant.
  23. ^^^^THIS^^^^ You get a big +1 or "like" from me on that one! Amen!
  24. Is the classic car market soft? The market is so big now that there are really multiple “sub markets.” As to whether things are up, down, or sideways…it all depends exactly what you’re looking at. It isn’t really accurate to say the market is doing one thing or another because it doesn’t move up and down as a block. Some market segments are absolutely on fire, while others just keep chugging along virtually unchanged for decades. There’s a lot to think about here, but as has been pointed out, don’t confuse “market” with value nor with liquidity. I would add that one should not use liquidity alone as the basis for gauging the market. Plenty of things have “value” that aren’t easy to sell quickly. You can have high liquidity in both up and down markets. I think we’re seeing some lower prices on cars and parts simply because of the economy. Simplified, it comes down to no money = no fun, with “fun” of course being things that one engages in discretionary spending on such as collector cars. I suppose we can point fingers at the internet too. It’s made it pretty easy for someone to figure out what they have and to very inexpensively advertise items for sale or wanted to an international audience. Items that were long thought of as “rare” and/or “valuable” suddenly became not so rare and not so valuable when a dozen of them could be purchased online at any given time. This has driven prices down. It’s supply and demand. The ebay phenomenon, you know, though it’s not strictly limited to ebay. One of the other things that I think we are seeing is folks are trying to get out of cars and parts they bought at high prices not too long ago. Someone that bought something only a year or two ago probably hasn’t forgotten what they paid for it and isn’t willing to take a loss on it. So, things go on the market and simply sit and sit. The seller digs in at the price and complains the market is soft. The buyers pass it up because it’s overpriced for the market and so on. I would also ask this: does it matter? To the true enthusiasts and collectors, it shouldn’t really matter. In fact, I would think that a down market would give them more buying power by virtue of prices being lower. To those that tried to get in on the action by flipping cars or dealing parts, yes, a down market can hurt and really matter to them. But those who truly love the cars will not be affected by market direction…they’ll be loving and collecting them just the same. Last, what about the idea that perhaps we’re seeing the market transition from one generation to the next and that the next generation is still feeling out what they’re interested in?
  25. I don't live that far from the event, yet far enough that I'm not going to drive 200 miles if I'm hearing about low turnout. Especially if the thing is practically over before it starts. Too bad, I guess. Low vendor turn out = low shopper turnout while at the same time low shopper turnout this year = low vendor turnout for next year = lower shopper turnout next year. So on and so on. It's a hard cycle to break and once most swap meets get sucked in, it's almost impossible for them to dig themselves out. I see this happening at all of the swap meets that I would consider even relatively local to me. I know that personally if I go to a bad meet, I'm not going to bother to spend the time and money to go back next time. I guess that makes me part of the problem I'm complaining about, but at the same time I didn't create the problem. I will not go to bad meets repeatedly simply on the basis of principle. Vicious cycle, it seems.