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I would agree with 1914 at the latest, might even be 1913.

Sounds as if you guys need the Body Repair manual. Someone must have one, other wise I see that Faxon have them available.

Looks to be a Model T sedan in front of it and an early 1920s Packard Twin Six behind. The car looks to be quite light and date from around 1920. Note no front brakes and short wheelbase

I think the car in John's pic is a six cylinder model but I didn't want to hazard a guess whether the mystery car was a six or a four from the angle of the shot. The six is 112" wheelbase and the four, 103 I think.

1930 Willys Whippet.

More likely late teens or early '20s I think. Almost impossible without seeing the radiator.

I have had some discussion on this one with others more expert than me on Euro cars and agreement is that the car is a circa 1949 Salmson S4 berline.

According to the Standard Catalog the 1936 Terraplanes shared their bodies with the same year Hudsons. They were just on a shorter wheelbase,

Any maker's name?? There were many aftermarket suppliers in that era who would supply electric lights for cars that were originally gas.

Maybe a Hotchkiss Anjou?

1932 was the last year the name Essex was used. From then on it was Terraplane for Hudson's low price cars. This one is 1936 and I think, because it is stripped bare, could be either a Terraplane or a Hudson.

That car is a US-production-only six cylinder model and slightly smaller in displacement than the car in question here which is a big four (130 mm x 170 mm) and was also produced in Europe.

They only become 'valuable' when almost all of them have gone and then somebody realises it and decides that they need to have one. Something which is in as-new, almost-never-driven, condition is always going to be more valuable nowadays than a rebuild, which is going to cost more than the car is worth anyway - unless it is a top of the market exotic, but that is a whole different world to regular daily-driver type cars. By the way I wonder what these 'actual' miles are. Maybe something like 'original' miles? Miles are miles whatever adjective is used to describe them.

Re the Columbia - with that kick up in the rear fender I agree that 1910 would be more correct.

Just found this one while looking at some of the less used topics. We have plenty of older Japanese cars in regular use in NZ but there is an increasing interest in them as collector cars although many are modified by the younger generation. My own interest is in the bigger Toyotas but there is a site worth checking out which has the broad spectrum of older Japanese cars and is worth a look through - http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/ Reading the articles on the 2015 Japanese Car Show it seems there is an increase in interest in stock not-so-old cars.

I think Craig may have got it with Winton. Check this one - http://www.conceptcarz.com/images/Winton/16-Winton-33-Touring-DV-11-PBC_02.jpg - tall radiator filler, headlights well forward of the radiator and those access panels along the side below the body. Also the hood latch and the hood handle immediately adjacent to it. Probably difficult to nail the date exactly as Winton did not make many changes through that era, but around 1916-17 I reckon.

The second car has a Chummy Roadster body. Not many makers built them. Those I can think of include Chandler, Haynes and Pathfinder. I think this one dates from about 1917 but I don't know what it is. That white line around the top of the body has to be a clue.

I think the engine number suggests it is 1936. Not sure about the letter C though.

Yes re the tyres - just as well it doesn't have front wheel brakes.

It is Bentley with an extra 'e'. Remember that this car has a 6 1/2 litre (almost 400 cid) engine with an overhead camshaft and four valves per cylinder. It also has a non detachable cylinder head. It is probably worth more than 10 times what the very best pre war Buick is. It is a very big car though, with a wheelbase longer than any Buick of the pre WW 2 era, and at a guess weighs over 4,000 lb even with that minimalist body.

All very good except that it would appear that the car in question here is a Special Six. Probably at least as rare a survivor as a Big Six sedan.

From what I have seen Locomobiles didn't change much during that late teens era but I think the drum head lights and that multiple tail light could be later additions.

The lens may be a modern replica.

I came across this one again while searching some other Stude info. Has anything further been done with it? Looking at it again I think the radiator is from another model. The headlights are 1919-21 Model EG Big Six but I think the radiator could be from either a contemporary Special Six or a later model car. One way to be sure whether it is a Special or Big Six is to measure the cylinder bore. The Special is 3 1/2" and the Big Six is 3 7/8"; easily determined with a simple ruler. Wheelbase; Special Six 119", Big Six 126".

Being pedantic it is a 96-C. Rare I guess as only just over 1,000 were built and probably not many left. Very desirable though. Almost looks as if it could be just cleaned up and driven. A full restoration might cost more than the car is worth, even if it is a CCCA recognised classic.