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Metropole Hotel, Rue Lavaud, Akaroa, New Zealand, 1914. It burnt down in 1962. Just visible on the left of the photo is the roof of the courthouse. The site is now the carpark of the local supermarket.
I see a Siddeley-Deasy car on the left, and a couple of 1913-14 Cadillac seven passenger tourers.
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The visible rear wheel suggests to me it may not be American, maybe rather something German from the period when the American influence was very strong.
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8 hours ago, wayne sheldon said:
There are at least a dozen different ways to rate "horsepower". A few are legally codified (legally defined), others scientifically or mathematically defined. Some are test results. Some amount to total power consumed or produced while others eliminate wasted power, which may or may not include drive train resistance. "Taxable" horse power is used around much of the world, and is generally a simple formula involving little more than the cylinder displacement which in turn determines the annual vehicle tax. But not used in the USA, which is why US automobiles have historically had big engines.
Just a basic background for my Brazilian friend.
The horsepower formula of D squared times N divided by 2.5 must have been used at one time in the US as my copy of the Floyd Clymer Catalog of 1914 cars - essentially a reprint of the NACC catalog of the time has a copy of the chart with the horsepower figures for the various bore sizes. It says it was previously known as the ALAM rating and is "based on the average view of eminent engineers as to a fair conservative rating for a four-cycle motor at one thousand feet per minute piston speed".
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Worth a read - Tax horsepower - Wikipedia
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More re the Sizaire. Bob wrote is some detail about the car's rebuild in issue #43 and #44 of Beaded Wheels, and then wrote a road test #90.
BW-43-Sep-1965_low.pdf (vcc.org.nz)
BW-44-Dec-1965_low.pdf (vcc.org.nz)
https://vcc.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/BW-90-Oct-1974_low.pd
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More re the Sizaire. Bob wrote some notes for Beaded Wheels, the VCCNZ magazine in 1957. This issue #9. The magazine is still published - now six times a year, and issue #387 is about to be delivered to members.
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This 1907 Sizaire was originally owned by a distant relative of mine. It was found derelict in the late 1950s and restored by an exceptionally clever engineer, the now late, Bob Turnbull. Bob did a lot of the development work on Hamilton jet boat units. At one time he lived not far from me, and I recall following him on his way home one day at his usual cruising speed of 55mph.
Two other interesting features of the car are it independent front suspension (very advanced) and its wooden chassis frame (archaic?).
The first two photos here I took in 1980 at a VCCNZ National Veteran Rally. In the first one I was in the back seat of a Ford T - Bob passed us soon after.
The info sheet in the last photo states there is only one S-N in NZ, but I know there were more, but I am not sure if their current whereabouts.
The third photo shows three S-Ns at the 1996 VCCNZ 50th Anniversary Rally.
The other shots are more recent. The new owner is local who had the wherewithal to ensure the car stayed in NZ.
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It is the transmission that is the most interesting part of these cars.
JEG posted thsi one last year -
There is a good little video - by a guy with a strong Australian accent - here which explains how the gears work.
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7 hours ago, Gunsmoke said:
So interesting, 1 cubic inch equals about 16.4 CC, so the car has a single piston with displacement about the size of a gallon of paint! 1580 CC equals about 96 cubic inches, and would suggest a bore and stroke like 6"x11" or 7"x8". When you consider todays modern 2000cc 4 cyl engines have individual piston displacements of 30.5 CI (and maybe 3.4" bore and 3.4" stroke), the fuel, firing, power stress, lubricating requirements etc must have made for serious engineering. Bang Bang Bang.
I think your arithmetic is a little off - the (relatively) common models of these are 120x 140 mm - 4 /34" x 5 1/2".
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30 minutes ago, oldford said:
Maybe a 1928 Graham Bros like this one. The original photo has shadowing around the radiator emblem that may be the same...
Frank
That looks like it. Thanks.
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Posted on a facebook page with the suggestion it was a Ford.
The radiator bears a resemblance to GMC of the era, but I can't find a photo of a GMC with its head lights mounted that way.
Those wheels are unusual.
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1 hour ago, utbrowningman said:
That begs the question, what makes a car a sedan? I thought 4-door cars were sedans and 2-door were coupes. There were Impala 2-door other years but yes, not called a sedan. Why is a 1961 2-door sedan not a coupe?
There is nothing in the term 'coupe' which defines how many doors it has. The word has just evolved to mean a two-door car. That hasn't stopped European makers from building four door coupes in recent years.
Coupe comes from the French word 'cut'.
Body style naming has always been 'fluid'.
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2 hours ago, 30DodgePanel said:
From before the merger with Benz.
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7 hours ago, keiser31 said:
The car in the foreground is also a Dodge Brothers. Check out the crowned fenders.
Yes, I should have spent more time looking at it before posting.🙄😉
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Portland, Victoria, Australia, December 1919.
Portland is a small town in the west of Victoria about 200 miles from Melbourne.
Some local history from Womens History Month - "
This is a great photo of Bentinck Street, Portland. You can see the London Cafe on the right, first opened by Josephine Annie "May" Jackman (nee Housen) in December 1918, ready for the summer trade. The Red Cross and Australian Comforts Fund received the proceeds of the opening afternoon.
May was the licensee of the neighbouring London Hotel. Born in Portland in 1885, May came from a hotel background, with her parents Samuel Housen and Jemima Broben, licensees of the Richmond Hotel, Portland. In 1908, May married Frank Turnbull of "Winninburn" near Coleraine. In 1910, Frank took up the license of the London Hotel, but he died the following year, leaving May with two infants. In 1912, she married Ebenezer Jackman and continued running the London Hotel.
When the London Cafe opened for the 1919/20 summer season, besides homemade scones, cakes, and chocolates, May had added an American soda fountain. By the 1920/21 summer season, May had married for a third time and opened the rooms as Mrs Playle. She promoted the fact her cafe operated on "...the American model, and always succeeds in attracting admirers of enterprising management, coupled with "a fair deal.""
May and her husband, Thomas Playle, later operated Mac's Hotel and the Club Hotel in Portland. They left in 1924, having purchased "Wickliffe House" in St Kilda. By 1927, the Playles were leasing the Melbourne Botanic Gardens Tea House, which they did for several years. May died in Toorak in 1970.
May's mother Jemima operated the Richmond Hotel, Portland until she died in 1931."
The care closest to camera looks to be an early Chev 490. I think the car behind it is something English. On the left, going by the fenders, is a Dodge.
CORRECTION - the closest car is also a Dodge.
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Not many cars had the rear door open that way, along with the ten spoke front wheels, and the combination of wheel bolts this car has.
I reckon 1911 Chalmers Model M 30hp.
Thanks to Varun for posting the info page a few months ago.
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On 3/20/2024 at 10:56 AM, West Peterson said:
As editor, I've seen them all. My wife bought me a button that says "I'm silently correcting your grammar." That kind of shut me up. I tend to correct much less, now (outside of the magazine)
All of the above, plus....
Expecially
Concourse
LeMans (in reference to the race)
Camero
El Dorado
Belair
Carman (Ghia)
pick up
year of the car, followed by its color (ie 1966 Black Mustang)
marquee
body styles capitalized (along with a plethora of other non-proper nouns)
renig (instead of renege)
chomping (at the bit), vs champing
peaked (instead of piqued)
Add to that -
Using phased instead of fazed.
'Should of' instead of 'should have'.
An acquaintance who has spent time in real estate still thinks a single building is a premise.
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On 3/20/2024 at 6:10 PM, marcapra said:
I was an English teacher by profession and one term always bothered me: 2 door coupe. Doesn't the term coupe mean 2 door by definition? But the proudest moment that I had as an English teacher was when my students said "Mr. Capralis, we want to thank you for teaching us to talk good English".
There is nothing in the word derivation of coup to suggest the number of doors. It is simply derived from the French word for cut.
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That style of tyre suggests to me maybe 1940s??
Maybe someone can decipher the lettering.
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The other one looks to be a Columbia electric. Even though its design looks earlier it might date from around the same time as the Mitchell.
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From a facebook page -
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Buster Keaton owned two of these - IMCDb.org: Mercer in movies and TV series
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1929 Pontiac. The serials numbers ran from 410101 to 530874.
And the tag is in the right place - 'under the left front fender'.
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9 hours ago, Douglas Gilmore Brown said:
That might be a Connecticut license plate on it.
Marlton Motor Company
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No mention on coachbuilt.com either.