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  1. 19 points
    The single biggest thing that makes this hobby suck is the fact that everyone thinks it should be profitable. It is not. It never has been. Somewhere along the line people just assumed that cars getting older also means they're getting more valuable. Like most things, value is subjective and it's just as likely that prices will go down as go up. As they say in the stock market: past performance is no indicator of future gains. If you own a 55-57 Chevy or Thunderbird or a dozen other formerly blue-chip "collector" cars, you're already upside-down. Model As are in the same boat. Do you expect to make money when you go on vacation? Do the guys who golf or fish or boat or whittle things out of wood expect to get their money back when they're done? Do the guys who watch sports or play video games or join virtual sports leagues expect to make a little cash for their efforts? Do guys who build models expect to sell them for a profit? Do guys who play softball figure they can sell their mitts back to the store when they're done for full retail plus a little extra because they broke it in and oiled it? Why are old cars special? Why do they need to be profitable? Spend your money, have your fun, and you still get A LOT of your money back! What other hobby even does that much for its participants? None, that's how many. If you sell your car for half what you paid for it, the fun you had STILL only cost you $0.50 on the dollar. Walt Disney World sure as hell isn't giving people 50% rebates after they get home. Honestly, how much time have you really spent on the car to get it ready? Everyone here is right--spend a weekend really cleaning and detailing that thing like your life depends on it. Get a cleaner wax and go over the entire car carefully. Yes, your rags will turn green and black, that's the point. You're uncovering fresh paint, removing oxidation, and bringing out the shine. Do it by hand and you won't hurt anything, don't use a machine. See if you can find some paint that matches better than the John Deere green spray can someone used to touch up the cowl and roof. Degrease the engine and get some Ford Green engine enamel and brush-touch the areas that are flaking and if they're rusty, hit it with a Scotch-Brite pad before you dab the paint on. Paint that rusty generator--just plain satin black would be fine. Clean the firewall as best as you can without removing paint. Clean the fuel stains off the carburetor (I can't see them, but I know they're there). If the exhaust manifold is rusty hit it with a wire brush and paint it satin black with the high-heat exhaust paint. Get those whitewalls white--I mean REALLY white. I can't see the interior but I presume it needs vacuuming, so do that. I bet the instrument panel is tarnished, so go after that with some Nevr-Dull or very fine steel wool. And lose the mud flaps. All that is stuff that you can do that primarily costs time and not much money. Presentation matters--look at Auburnseeker's post with the same Cadillac before and after. Why do I have a full-time detailer on staff? Presentation matters and the moment you give someone an out, they're moving on to the next car. Everyone says that young people are ruining the hobby. You know what really ruins the hobby? People trying to get all their money back plus the money they spent on repairs/maintenance/storage/insurance along the way plus a little profit just because. THAT is what sucks about the hobby.
  2. 17 points
    I'm constantly amazed by the experience, breadth of accumulated knowledge, willingness to share, and assistance offered by the participants of our FORUM. I want to take this opportunity to express my appreciation to the FORUM community in general. A big Thank You to you who make the old car hobby better than it might otherwise be! SEE YOU DOWN THE ROAD, AND TAKE A KID, HIS PARENTS, AND HIS GRANDPARENTS, TO A CAR SHOW
  3. 15 points
    I attended a small car show in the town of Hood located along the Sacramento River south of Sacramento, California. I drove my 1929 Studebaker President Brougham and my brother drove his newly acquired 1929 Studebaker President Cabriolet. Our two Presidents were oldest cars in attendance.
  4. 14 points
    Well, I sold my 70 Skylark in October this past year. I kept saying I wasn't going to buy another car for a while, but sometimes they just fall into your lap. I am picking it up on Tuesday (possibly Monday if I can work the schedule). A bit of a long-winded story, but I'll try to keep it short. Lance and I went to go look at a 57 Roadmaster 75 coupe that is currently advertised on eBay. It is local to me, so we made a day out of the inspection. The coupe came from a wealthy collector in Southern CA that is having this dealer broker his cars. Apparently, he is selling anything that is not valued at $1 million or more. Oooook then. We were less than impressed with the coupe, so proceeded to small talk the dealer, and found out the owner has another 57 that he sent over in another building. He said "You don't want to see it, it's a turd and the transmission is out." We said, "we'd like to see it please." So 30 minutes later, a guy brought a key to the other building and opened the door. What we saw was this car in the photos. Yes, the transmission is not currently "working," but I am hopeful that it's a simple fix. Even if it's not, I'm not concerned. It does need an exhaust system, the current one is pretty rotted. It originally was all garnet red top and bottom, but sometime in its life it was painted its current combo. All (or most) of the chrome is original clean, no pits. Interior has been redone is mostly correct fabrics. Dash pad and upper door panels are not quite right, but I can handle that. Headliner has a white perforated material that isn't right either, but that's a pretty easy fix. It's just a clean car. Factory AC and wonderbar radio. Not a speck of rust to be found anywhere. I've been hounding the guy for 2 weeks to get a price from the seller, and he finally got back with me yesterday. Today, the deal is 99% done. I just have to sign some paperwork and pay him. We currently have snowmageddon 2019 happening, so I can't get back out there until Monday or Tuesday. If I could've picked it up today, I would have. Darn snow storm rolled in about 1pm today. I plan to have this in OKC this year. I have to thank Lance for allowing me to buy this ahead of him. We were both salivating at the prospect. I'll have to make sure I get his black 57 extra spiffy for him. This is the "turd" ...it's better in person. It still has all the grime on it from the trip East..
  5. 14 points
    May 11, 2012. 7:10am Jeep Wrangler turns into the path of me on my motorcycle and hits me head on at 45mph. Ambulance takes me to hospital followed by helicopter transport to major trauma center 50 miles away. Four months in hospitals. Outcome-permanently paralyzed from the waist down, right leg completely amputated. Employer cancels my employment as I cannot meet job requirements. Insurance will not insure me now that I’m a risk. Can’t live in existing home due to layout wont support my new disability, have to sell and find and modify a ranch style house. Have to sell my 1964 Plymouth with 49k miles, my small collection of automobilia, tools and more things than you can imagine at fire sale values, including car and house. No time to wait for fair offers or negotiate better prices. Life is not fair as I think as this happening. I was 60 when the accident happened, just turned 67 last week. Why am I telling you this? Life goes ON! Yes you had setback and yes your car did not sell at the point you wanted but you are alive and you can make the best of it if you choose. What happened with your heath and your car is over! You have the opportunity to continue to live and enjoy what it offers. It may be different that you hoped for but you are here! It’s not the end of the world, it’s not fair in your eyes but it is a lot better than many others may be facing. I wish you all the best as you adapt to a new life. Terry
  6. 14 points
    Here's a little bit of "back story" to fill the gap between my last update in March and the recent posts from Oklahoma. Immediately after the Detroit Autorama show, we left for a well-deserved vacation in Arizona. Then, I made a couple of improvements to the car before heading to the Cincinnati Concours on June 9. I installed the seals to close out the outer wheel wells to the quarter panels. They were installed with stainless steel staples and sealed with a heavy bodied sealer between the seal and the wheelwell. This picture shows the first 2 staples installed on the left side seal. It was a tight environment and took some creativity to figure out a way to crimp the legs of the staples in a very small space. Here's the completed installation: I also applied undercoating to the floors and under-body as it was applied by the factory. To begin, I masked off the frame and other areas that did not receive the factory undercoating. In this photo, you can see the masked areas and some of the undercoating already applied to the floor pans. Originally, the underside of the tire well was undercoated, but the floor pans were undercoated only to the back of the rear axle and not above the fuel tank. Go figure... I also added the 6 sets of seat belts. I chose contrasting, brown belts with the chrome lift latches. Here, I have attached cords to the belt anchors to assist with inserting the belts between the seat cushion and the seat back. I also used a piece of harness wrap to help push the cord through the gap Then, bolted the belt anchors to the underbody anchor plates that were installed when the metal work was completed. It's a nice, clean look. Installation of the rear seat belts was a little easier, since the cushion and the back can be separated. I also wanted to improve the appearance of the rear liftgate windlace. It was very wavy and didn't fit snugly against the liftgate opening. Every time I opened the gate, the windlace looked like it had been pushed out of position by the upper liftgate frame. I removed the windlace, tore the stitching out of the cloth cover and slit the foam core to accept a plastic reinforcement: I re-stitched the cover to the reinforced foam core, while adding a 3mm thick foam rubber "gasket" to tighten the fit of the windlace to the upper liftgate opening. The gasket won't be visible when the windlace is installed because it is trapped between the metal garnish molding and the liftgate opening in the body shell. Much better!!! The windlace is held tightly in place. It flexes "down" when the upper liftgate is closed, but it does not move out of position. It's straight and neat. In the circled area, you can see that the trim cover on the front seat has begun to pucker. The cover was too loose on the cushion. I pulled the front seat out of the car to re-pad the seat cushion. I removed the top 2 layers of cotton/poly padding and foam and replaced them with a thicker, firmer layer of bonded foam. The cover is much tighter and the seat holds a more defined shape at the perimeter. Ready for Cincinnati! The Caballero was placed in a Featured Class, celebrating Mid-Century Modern design. It was in a group comprised of 1958 to 1965 closed cars. "Best in Class" (Blue Ribbon) went to a beautiful, silver, fuel injected 1963 Corvette coupe. We got "First Place" (Red Ribbon) in the class. Essentially, first runner up.
  7. 14 points
    You do know that you can call b-----it on that show even though it may be enjoyable to watch. All those "finds" are orchestrated ahead of time. If you think about it, they go into someone's house or barn loaded with all kinds of re-saleable items and they NEVER offer to buy the lot even though the "business" they're allegedly in is buying and selling antiques and old junk. (The real business is selling their bs to their tv audience). It would be like going into an old dealership for one of us, we'll say Chevy, and instead of buying several hundred NOS pieces all from the 60's, we say we only want to buy stuff for a '64 Impala. Again, the show may be entertaining, but it's not of the real world.
  8. 12 points
    I have been trying to get a good set of medallions for my 1937 Coupe for a year. Both the grille badge and the one on the nose. I looked at restoring mine and the cost was prohibitive and the wait times too long. I ended up sending my originals to Nostalgic Reflections in Washington state and they have made a set of reproductions. My belief is that they will be making these in batches of 10 or so so and selling them in the $200 range. Once i know I will post an update. I have zero commercial interest in the sale of the reproductions just posting to let people know there may be a solution to the problem I had. I doubt many McLaughlin badges sell but beat up original nose badges are on eBay and the prices can be high and the quality rough.
  9. 12 points
    I usually don’t get sucked into this kind of BS story, but since you are asking for it I figure why not... Your car might have been nice years ago, but that splotchy paint in the cowl is probably hiding a rust issue that is well known in A’s and not inexpensive to repair properly, the lineup between the front and rear door looks to be off by a solid 1/4” which adds to the concern of any potential buyers, although the generator might work fine it looks like rusty sh*t which makes me concerned about what else is going to be an issue under the hood. Quick observations from two pictures, added to all this is that it’s a Fordor as opposed to an open car which I love but there’s not a lot of interest in. It’s a hard sale. A couple years ago I sold a roadster and a phaeton both being priced in the mid teens, that roadster had a fresh engine in it from George King who was as reputable as Schwalm or J&L etc. Just my opinion, but you are overly optimistic that you have a highly desirable car, and I believe it’s going to take you a long time to find that right buyer, crying about it ain’t going to work...
  10. 12 points
    I will say that virtually every guy who brings a hot rod in to sell in my shop says the same thing: it's boring. I don't know what their goal was when they started or what they expected, but it's rarely what they want when it's done. I don't even think they know what they want, only that they've convinced themselves that an old car isn't what they want. That mindset probably comes from what they've heard from other people or things they assume about old cars being unreliable or hard to drive (you should hear how many grown men whine about needing power steering, but that's another story for another day). I bet the owner of that Chrysler will say it drives like a modern car. Unfortunately, I already have a modern car. What I don't have is a car that drives like a 1940 Chrysler New Yorker.
  11. 11 points
    I love a good tale - and have often told the story of how I discovered this neat early Ford Garage advertising piece. Years ago I purchased a fabulous antique tool cabinet full of tools, many of them used on Model Ts. The cabinet was at one time hung on the wall of an old Ford garage in West Manchester Ohio. Little did I realize when I purchased that cabinet, there was a cardboard sign tacked onto the back of it advertising the H.A. Geeting Ford Garage in West Manchester Ohio. The old cabinet is proudly mounted on the wall in my re-created old auto parts store. The sign, framed and on the wall. This past week, while driving home from the AACA Annual Grand National meet in Auburn Indiana, I ventured a bit off-course specifically to get a photo of the old garage it came from. I'm going to print out the photo, frame it, and display it along side the old sign. A quick internet search revealed that H.A. Getting was reputed to be one of the oldest Ford dealers in Ohio. It was a fabulous place, but unfortunately I could not get into the old building to see if anything remained. I fear the building will not be around much longer. Although it is a small community that time seems to have by-passed, the basement is full of water. Glad to have had the chance to stop and get the pic though. Terry
  12. 11 points
    Just an opinion as a member that has participated in the judging program since its inception. All single marque car clubs have judging as a part of their National meets. The BCA 400 point system works better than most because it is in fact judging an automobile against a standard. A plain black 2 door sedan "stripo" model has exactly the same chance of wining an award as does the yellow convertible in the same class. If a member wants to have his car judged, It is the fairest system I have seen It was originally derived from the AACA system. For members that want to be recognized with an award and have driven their car, they can apply for a driven award. Those that have a totally unrestored car can achieve an archival award. Those that just want to sit and have fun with their friends can just display their car. Those that just want to tour can register for the driving tours , that are usually part of any national Meet, or they can join the BDE and go on an after meet tour. I don't know of any other Club , that offers that many possibilities for "FUN" . The one issue is the no man's land of judging as Larry D had stated. That roadster did not really fit in any category. But I had a talk with the owner early on telling him that, and he did new seem to care. He was thrilled that his car was featured . I do not know of a simple solution to the issue of cars that fall through the cracks in the judging process, but I have to go back to the original thought process behind 400 point judging, and that was to insure that a car wining an award at a BCA meet would be "as it left the factory". The only real trophies that matter to me in my garage are the cars them selves. All that said, I do believe that going forward, the modified cars should be more integrated in to the Chief judges wheelhouse . They currently get judged separately,. and on a different standard than 400 point cars. Another going forward will be "Clone" cars as we get more more GS cars in the club. That issue came up in Denver last year. No system is perfect. The important thing is that the Club works proactively to correct issues as they come up. I had included a questionnaire in this year's registration packet inviting comments on the National Meets in general. So far, I have receive back just under thirty replies. The members sending in the forms overwhelmingly (95%) indicate that their favorite reason for attending is seeing their friends and seeing the cars., Other reason were to have their car judged (35%). The logic seems clear to me that , if we had no cars, we would not have had attendees. Approximately 25% indicated that their favorite part of a National is the tours . Virtually all replies indicate the meets should be moved around to various parts of the Country. No one sending back form indicated anything about the meets, they did not like. We got sone good suggestions about other possible activities. The BCA is a healthy Club in every respect. We have room for everyone to enjoy a National Meet with out wanting to rain on others' parade. JUST GIVING MY OPINION
  13. 11 points
  14. 11 points
    Technically today isn't on the weekend but it is my day off!!! New Diamondback triple stripe whitewall 235/75-15 tires and new stainless steel lug nuts were installed on The Aqua Zephyr today. I like how the taller tires fill the wheel wells compared to the old tires.
  15. 11 points
    Not wishing to hi-jack the thread about "cab over engine trucks". I was thinking that very few people here have knowledge of local trucking in the teens, twenties and thirties and I would share some information told to me by my Grandfather. Prior to the Great Winnipeg General Strike in 1919 he was driving a 1911 Commer truck for Teese & Persse. Hard rubber tires and slow speed were not a real problem because his trips were from one of Winnipeg's three rail yards to the warehouse. CPR and Midland of Manitoba were 1/2 mile each way and what was to become the CNR was 1 mile. He made three or four trips per day, six days a week. After the strike he drove for the G MacLean Company driving a 1919 Commer. Similar speeds and distances. Remember at this time all the warehouses and manufacturing was on a spur line or very close to the railroads. In 1934 they replaced the last of their solid tired trucks which had included a Nash Quad with four wheel steering (apparently a good truck for backing into places but very hard to park to side load from a boxcar) and had a fleet of 3 Diamond Ts', 3 GMCs'. Four and usually five of these delivered goods to the retailers and my Grandfather brought most of the freight from the railways to the warehouse. Usually three or four trips a day, remember everything was loaded and unloaded a piece at a time, no pallets or pallet trucks. Shortly after WWII they started replacing the old fleet. The GMCs' were the first to go as they had a terribly large turning circle.The last one to go was the 1934 Diamond T that my grandfather until his retirement in 1962. It had a total of just over 29,000 miles in 28 years. The last picture, taken in 1955 is my Grandfather (76), my nephew (4) and myself (13) beside the '34 Diamond T.
  16. 10 points
    I see myself as this: But I suspect others see me as this:
  17. 10 points
    Body work is 99% complete. Tweaking the wheel shields (fender skirts) and rear bumper stone guard which are originals purchased from @2carb40 (Thanks yet again Greg!). The car is in primer stage and blocking. The car is fully assembled including underside panels like stone shields so that anything that can affect body panel alignment is in place for verification of final assembly. Since the doors were totally reconstructed, the window frames and crank mechanisms and ventipanes will be installed also to be certain that everything will line up after paint. Paint isn't scheduled until winter sets in with low dust and humidity and Dan's ability to control heat and airborne moisture content. The car will be totally disassembled with the body put on a rotisserie for ease of painting, sanding and finishing. Everything will be painted separately. Originally Buick painted the body with the doors and I believe the deck lid installed. At this point, everything except the window frames and ventipanes is in for replating. For replating, I found Rick at R&D Finishing. He used to do all of Lewis Jenkins plating.
  18. 10 points
    Arrived safely in Simcoe, Ontario this afternoon in time for dinner at Keith's (Buicknutty) place. Beautiful area and the drive from Niagara Falls to Simcoe was spectacular--just quiet 2-lanes with 50 MPH speeds and no traffic. Weather was perfect with light clouds and about 75 degrees, so the Limited ran superbly all the way. 60-65 MPH on the highway was effortless. I'll admit that I always worry a little on a long road trip, but this car has never given me a moment's worry so by the time I crossed the border, I was totally relaxed and just let the car do its thing. For some reason the idle is a little rough after the drive, but we'll see how it acts in the morning. Maybe it was just hot. Fuel economy is still surprisingly decent--180 miles on 13 gallons works out to about 14 MPG. Not bad and 40% better than Melanie's '56 Chrysler wagon last week going to Detroit! Quite a few interesting cars on this tour and I'm glad to be here. Seems like a great group of people, too. Fantastic roads in Ontario. A great drive! Limited was totally composed (remember that my speedometer reads 8 MPH slow). Stayed at 160 except for 20 minutes in traffic outside Erie, PA, where it showed 185 or so. Just a few of the cars at Keith's house for the tour. Nice! Followed a green Nash sedan back to the hotel after dinner. Back at the hotel. Buicks are popular here!
  19. 10 points
    Avoid trying to polish that on a pedestal buffer if you are not experienced. That has very sharp edges and will catch very easy if you are not real familiar and used to buffing such items. It's also quite large and if caught , there is a good chance it will maim you. Even with all the buffing I have done, that piece would have me a tad uneasy buffing it. Besides the fact of personal injury, if it catches it will most likely be destroyed beyond repair. Pedestal buffers require alot of respect for the tool and what it will do if you do anything wrong. Regular moldings aren't scary pieces like this. I would go along with Bill's suggestion. Especially the air grinders as they don't have the torque of electric tools to get you in trouble. Mother's Mag and Aluminum polish also works well. You can even buy small buffing wheels , even conical ones made of the same materials as the big buffing wheels and use regular polishing compounds with the air grinder. In the end, it's all about time. When polishing metal, the more time you spend polishing , the better the finish you will have as you are actually taking a very tiny amount of metal off to get to the smoother layer underneath.
  20. 10 points
    Here in the Northeast "rust" means there is a hole thru the body. Surface rust is "patina". It's not rust unless you can poke your finger thru it.
  21. 10 points
    He sells rare and desirable car's he is nothing but honest on his description.He can bypass this site,so no one knows what he is pulling out the barn,hope not.
  22. 10 points
  23. 10 points
    Took the fraternal twins out yesterday for their first rides of the year. The first nice day since the Fall.
  24. 10 points
  25. 10 points
    This 1913 American Lafrance Type 10 is completely original, right down to the lower radiator hose which will leak for awhile each spring when we fill the cooling system. It seems like some kind of rubber coated canvas and will stop leaking after awhile when it swells up. Tires are original foam filled. We believe it to be the oldest surviving unrestored fire truck in operable condition. If anyone knows of one that’s older I would enjoy hearing about it.
  26. 9 points
    Larry, quit drooling on the spam
  27. 9 points
    Went to a small (25 car) show today in my town at a retirement facility. I was asked by a friend whose been a great help. The 65 Malibu won 1st and has a great pedigree and such beautiful condition. I voted for it. Dad’s car got second and the 56 Chevy belongs to a friend who helped me with dad’s cars and also is in beautiful condition. Very honored to be in the same category as these cars. I’d post more pics but my thread to remedy the photo issue was apparently deleted. They haven’t realized yet that interacting and photos is important to this forum. 😭
  28. 9 points
    Had an awesome event last night with the Ohio Region CCCA: a drive-in movie! Hosted at a member's house with a big yard, they put up an inflatable screen and a HD projector to show "The Sting," which is full of great old cars: villain Robert Shaw gets chauffeured around in a lovely '35 Pierce-Arrow club sedan and the "Feds" drive a pair of late-20s Buick 7-passenger touring cars. There were a handful of old cars in the field and a bunch of modern cars, which is always a bummer but I guess everyone is getting old and the weather looked like it might rain. Still a nice night and a pleasant 1-hour drive each way in the Limited, which seems to be in excellent health following the big drive to Canada last week. I always enjoy driving that car at night, particularly now that the gauge lights are nice and bright. Yeah, it rained on the way home at 11 PM but the big limo doesn't care. Even the heater put out some just right heat for the cool night. Cars lining up for the show. You can see my Limited on the far right side of the field. 1938 BMW 328 right in front. Attractive 1926 Studebaker roadster Extremely nice 1926 Buick Master 7P sedan Bob Brown's 1941 Cadillac 60S, which wins the "most miles driven" award every year because he drives it back and forth to Florida each season. Talk about a fast, reliable car! Dave Heinrichs arrives in his 1916 Cadillac touring
  29. 9 points
    Had to wade through usual sea of 85% modified cars yesterday at a local show, but rewarded with some cool sights... Franklin
  30. 9 points
    Here are my photos from todays pre war tour in Ontario. After supper I asked the driver of the big 6 1914 Buick b55 if he would give me a ride in his car and before he could start the engine he had a car load of guys. With the cool dusk air blowing we felt the torque of the 55 HP engine and everyone of us enjoyed the experience. Life is grand. Regards, Gary
  31. 9 points
    Just finished up the roof. Now to finish up a little machining for a friend.
  32. 9 points
    At the BOD meeting last evening Kevin Kinney was appointed to replace John Steed as BCA Chief Judge. Roberta Vasilow was appointed Chapter, Region and Director CoOrdinator . Both appointments will be for a five year period as per the BCA ByLaws. The changes proposed by the SOP committee were approved with modifications as presented , and will be posted in a future Bugle for the membership to comment on , before being implemented. A Finance committee was created by President John Steed with Bill Stoneberg as Chair and Sydney Meyer and Jerry Courson as members. A Membership growth Committee was established by President Steed with Alan Oldfield as Chair. Members will be approved for this committee going forward. Several names have been put forth. A six month budget was approved so that the BCA can switch from a July 1 fiscal year beginning to a Jan 1 beginning. The paper work to accomplish this has been provided to our accounting firm. More detail on the BOD will be provided on the BOD meeting in upcoming minutes.
  33. 9 points
    Finally got my Buick out of storage and drove it today. This rainy weather in the midwest is like car show repellant.
  34. 9 points
    I am bringing my dad and his roadster to the meet. He’s BCA #99. Had this car since 1952.
  35. 9 points
    I put about a 100 Miles on the "puff" since taking it off the U-haul, trailer then Sunday I got the transmission filter and oil for the transfusion and made a mess of my driveway, which I expected, having done one of these before, and hopefully will run for while, Oh and I washed it yesterday by hand!
  36. 9 points
    I think just once I'd like to see someone buy a well-known hot rod that has won awards and then restore it to stock configuration. I would enjoy the teeth gnashing of the community that claims it takes a real man to cut up a car and who think that we're kooks for not wanting a small block Chevy in everything we drive.
  37. 9 points
    Today I was able to get the drivers side front fender painted and cleared. WHooooo Hoooooo. I'm happy with the results. Once it sets for a few days, on the car it goes . The other will be done shortly. Moving along.
  38. 9 points
    I would invite you to please come see it in person before making a judgement. All of your "issues" are either non-issues or can be explained, although I suspect that me trying to explain them would simply sound like a salesman trying to hoodwink buyers for a quick sale (because obviously faking low-mileage plain-Jane 1956 Oldsmobile sedans is a VERY lucrative business). I'm not a rookie or an amateur, I've been doing this for more than 40 years, and I would not have made this mileage claim without thoroughly investigating it myself. Please don't imply that I'm a fool or a crook without having a look yourself rather than speculating based on photographs. The car measures up in every way that I can think of. I would enjoy the benefit of your expert examination and if I've made a mistake, I'll happily correct it. Please come see it and then decide.
  39. 8 points
    Traveling to the 2019 Riviera Owners Association International Annual Meet in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania I joined the Riviera Owners Association in 2017 after we purchased our 1968 Buick Riviera, which we dubbed ‘The Aqua Zephyr’. I soon learned about the annual ROA International Meets that are held in different geographical areas in the USA each year. It was too late to attend the 2017 Annual Meet in Reno, Nevada, and the 2018 Annual Meet in Overland Park, Kansas, was deemed too far from our home in North Carolina to attend. The Aqua Zephyr on the day we brought her home, June 1st, 2017 When the 2018 ROA Meet kicked off, we found out the 2019 Meet location would be Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, June 25-28, 2019. Much to our surprise, the Meet announcement featured a photo of our car superimposed over a view of the Gettysburg battlefield. 2019 ROA International Meet art featuring The Aqua Zephyr My wife and I discussed the logistics of attending the Gettysburg Meet. I told her I wanted to drive the Riviera and have her follow me in our pickup truck. She suggested, rather firmly, she would feel better if we trailered the car to the Meet. Naturally I acquiesced and in January 2019 we purchased a 20-foot car trailer. We had never trailered a full size car before and were nervous about the trip. We made a practice run by driving the car onto the trailer in order to determine the weight distribution and the center of gravity, and then we practiced using the tie down straps to secure it to the trailer. We also made several practice runs driving the car on and off the trailer. It was quite nerve-wracking, but with a lot of practice we felt more and more comfortable. We made our hotel and Meet reservations early to ensure we got a room at the Meet hotel, the Wyndham-Gettysburg. In the meantime, I discovered that the Mason-Dixon Chapter of the BCA was having an All Buick/GM car show at the AACA Museum in Hershey, PA on the 22nd of June. Because I had never entered the Aqua Zephyr in an All Buick car show, I talked my wife into leaving North Carolina four days earlier than originally planned to attend this show. This car show happened to take place on my wife’s birthday, so I knew I would owe her BIG time. She agreed and I made a new reservation at the ROA Meet hotel for three more nights. June 20th & 21st, 2019: Preparation and departure Google Maps projected the trip from our home to Gettysburg would be almost 7 hours. The route was straight up I-95 through Richmond, VA, Washington, D.C., towards Fredrick, Maryland, then on to Gettysburg, PA. Loading the Buick the night before went without a hitch and we departed at 8:00am on Friday, June 21st. The Riviera and truck are loaded for the trip to the ROA Meet, June 21st, 2019 I had initially put my car cover on the Buick and tied it down with rope but soon discovered the rear portion of the cover was blowing in the wind as we rolled down the Interstate. I pulled off at the first rest stop we came to and untied and removed the cover. From here on out, the Riviera would be on full display. The journey north from North Carolina through Richmond, VA, was without incident. We got a lot of admiring honks and thumbs up from passing motorists along the way. I think my wife enjoyed the displays of affection even more than I did, as she enthusiastically waved back. The realization that our 7-hour trip was going to become something MUCH longer settled in as we approached, and then was trapped in, the snarled traffic in the Washington, D.C. area. Bumper to bumper I-95 north-bound traffic We probably averaged 25-35 mph from D.C. to Fredrick, Maryland, over the course of almost 3 hours. Once we were north of Fredrick, it was smooth traveling on US 15 toward Gettysburg. But alas, the highway speeds were again disrupted by stopped traffic on US 15 due to an accident 15 miles south of Gettysburg. We sat in traffic for another hour before we finally were on our way. During our journey up US 15, the rolling hills and fields of western Pennsylvania spread out around us and we were instantly impressed with our surroundings. We arrived at the Wyndham Hotel at about 8:30 pm—tired and hungry. We offloaded the Riviera from the car trailer, parked the vehicles, and secured the trailer from possible theft (a major concern for me, which turned out to be unfounded). As mentioned previously, I wanted to attend the Mason-Dixon Chapter car show in Hershey the next day. Despite being tired, I wanted to get the Buick washed for the show. I found a do-it-yourself car wash near the hotel. I hand washed the car but decided not to hand dry it. I wanted to let the wind blow the water off on the way back to the hotel. My wife called me on the way back to the hotel and asked me to pick up something for her at Walmart. By the time I got back to the hotel, the car was covered in huge, ugly water spots! I was so mad at myself for not taking the time to hand dry the car that I set my alarm for 5:00am so I could get up and ‘wet erase’ the water marks with damp towels and apply a light coat of wax. That next morning I corrected my mistake and proceeded to take several photos of the car near the hotel in the pre-dawn morning twilight. Twilight pictures of The Aqua Zephyr, Wyndham Hotel, Gettysburg, PA June 22nd 2019 The Mason Dixon BCA chapter car show at the AACA Museum, Hershey, Pennsylvania We arrived in Hershey, PA, at the AACA Museum around 9:00am on June 22nd. We were delighted to see several vintage Buicks and other GM vehicles already parked on the grass in front of the museum. The weather was clear, the humidity was low, and there was a light breeze in the air. This all portended to be a very enjoyable day. We met several other Buick owners showcasing their cars, including a stunning 1967 Wildcat that I would have gladly traded my Riviera for if the owner had been so inclined. The car show was very organized and went off without a hitch. We were thrilled that The Aqua Zephyr was awarded a Second Place trophy in the ‘Riviera’ category. Discovering Gettysburg: The town, Sachs Covered Bridge, old barns/ homes, and the Battlefield We spent the next several days prior to the ROA Meet driving our Riviera around Gettysburg and the battlefield areas, trying to soak up all of the history that surrounded us. We also looked for spots to take pictures of the car. Driving through town, especially the side streets was like going back in time 100 years. The downtown area is surrounded by closely packed row houses, many of which date back prior to the Civil War. We discovered Sachs Cover Bridge, huge 19th century red barns with adjoining farm houses and miles of rolling hills with lots of long stretches of open county highways. Sachs Covered Bridge, Gettysburg, PA area "1860" dated barn, Gettysburg, PA area Pennsylvania back roads Pennsylvania farm and The Aqua Zephyr One of the our favorite photo locations was at sunset in the quiet solitude of the Gettysburg National Military Park. With its 1300+ granite memorials scattered throughout I realized that I never fully understood the true meaning of the term “Hallowed Ground” until we toured this battlefield. Gettysburg National Military Park (Photo courtesy Nora Sumrell) During our self-guided tours of the Gettysburg area we spotted a gravel processing facility with a pile of slate gray rock, perfect for a neutral backdrop for more pictures of The Aqua Zephyr. Gravel processing yard Gravel processing yard The Riviera Owners Association International Annual Meet: The Aqua Zephyr as a minor celebrity Tuesday, June 25th, was the beginning of the Meet. It’s said that “You attend your first ROA Annual Meet for the cars; you attend subsequent Meets for the friends”. My wife and I were a little nervous that morning as the Meet ballroom was opened and members starting arriving and greeting each other. Many introductions were made as we greeted other members. All the while I observed that a majority of the members seemed to know each other very well. My wife and I were wearing our custom made Aqua Zephyr t-shirts and soon several members were coming up to us and saying “Ah, you’re the Aqua Zephyr!” or “Mike, I have seen your car all over the internet”. It was a very humbling and surreal experience, especially when we saw the Meet t-shirts and note pads, with the picture of our Riviera so prominently displayed on the Meet check-in tables. Later, seeing those same t-shirts being worn by the ROA attendees left a huge lump in my throat. The next three days were a whirlwind of battlefield tours, parking lot photo shoots, more introductions, and meeting up with other North Carolina Riviera owners and friends. Wyndham Gettysburg parking lot Downtown Gettysburg, PA Wyndham Gettysburg parking lot ROA Gettysburg Guided Tour: Offering a ride to a stranger leads to great photographs and a new friendship On the evening of the ROA Guided Road Tour around the Gettysburg area, it was very warm and I had spotted a gentleman wearing a long sleeve shirt with a camera hanging around his neck taking pictures of the Riviera’s in the hotel parking lot. I assumed he was a journalist for a local newspaper. As we were gathering for a safety briefing for the guided tour, I introduced myself to him and asked if he would like to ride with me during the tour. He introduced himself, stating he was a member of the ROA but that he did not yet own a Riviera. When he learned that I was the owner of the car in the Meet artwork, he readily accepted my offer to “ride shotgun” in The Aqua Zephyr. John and I became quick friends and he took several photographs during the tour. One of the local Pennsylvania ROA members led 17 Riviera’s and other vehicles in his 1966 Buick Wildcat on a 30+ mile guided tour around the Gettysburg area. We stopped at the Sachs Covered Bridge, drove through farmland, past old barns and farmhouses, and by the famous ‘Historic Round Barn’. 1966 Buick Wildcat convertible; Gettysburg ROA tour lead vehicle (ROA Guided Tour: Photo courtesy of John Mulhern III) (ROA Guided Tour: Photo courtesy of John Mulhern III) My wife drove ahead of the tour group in our truck and shot a video of all of the tour cars driving by illuminated by the rays of the setting sun. The tour wrapped up with a stop at Half Pint Creamery ice cream shop for a much needed cool down from the evenings heat (and hot cars). The ROA Car Show. The Spectacle and the heat. I woke up at 4:00am on the day of the ROA Meet car show, Friday, June 28th, in order to get a spot in the car wash station that the hotel had set up. The day was already warm but clear. By 9:00 am, Riviera’s were being guided into their assigned car show parking areas. Peer judging was from 9:00 am to 1:00 pm, then at 1:30 pm all engine and trunk hoods were closed for official photographs. Besides the 98 Riviera’s representing all eight generations on display during the car show, there were several other Riviera’s in the parking lot that did not participate in the show. It was awe inspiring to see that many beautiful Riviera’s gathered in one place. The peer judging for this show was the hardest I had ever participated in, with so many extraordinary examples from all eight Riviera generations. Compounding the stress in judging was the extreme heat that day. It turned out that Gettysburg, PA, had the highest temperature in the country, topping out at 100oF. I walked around with a towel soaked in ice water all day just to keep from overheating. 2019 ROA Meet Car Show; "Modified" Class cars 2019 ROA Meet Car Show; "1965" Class cars 2019 ROA Meet Car Show; "1971-1978" Class cars 2019 ROA Meet Car Show; "1971-1978" Class cars 2019 ROA Meet Car Show; "1966-1970" Class cars. Me standing next to The Aqua Zephyr The ROA Awards Banquet: Recognition for North Carolina Members The Awards Banquet that evening was a well-executed affair. The Best of Show, Ladies Choice, class winners, and runners-up were awarded attractive plaques and the food, catered by the Wyndham hotel, was top notch. The 1965 Riviera Class Winner was Avery Wise from Waxhaw, NC. A Winner Circle award went to @Rivman Randall and Gwyn Crain from Sophia, NC for their 1999 Silver Arrow Riviera for it's 2016 win. Our friend and fellow Tarheel Chapter/BCA member, Ray Rapuano, was presented with a First Place award in the Custom Class for his custom-built 1964 Riviera. The Aqua Zephyr earned a Second Place award in the “1966-1970” Class. The Aqua Zephyr was also recognized as being featured on the Meet artwork included on the award plaques. Fellow ROA and BCA member Ray Rapuano and myself holding our car show awards, ROA International Meet Awards Ceremony and Dinner, June 28th 2019 The ‘Best of Show’ winner was a Green 1964 Riviera owned by Richard Harvey from Cornwall, NY. This car was also awarded the ‘Ladies Choice’ award. "Best of Show" and "Ladies Choice" winner, 1964 Riviera At the conclusion of the banquet, we said goodbye to our new friends and wished them safe travels home. Finding the right tree, departing Gettysburg, and the trip home (more honks and thumbs up) One of our goals during the trip to Gettysburg was to find the location of the background photo used in the Meet artwork (the location of the field, tree, and cannons). While on our guided battlefield tour on the 26th of June, we passed a spot that I thought might be the location. I made a mental note of the spot. After the car show on Friday, my wife and I cooled off in our room, changed clothes, then drove out in the Riviera to that location to see if we could get some pictures in the light of the setting sun. My wife was skeptical that the location I found was the same spot until I pulled up the Meet artwork on my cell phone and showed her the crooked tree and cannons in the artwork matched the scene we were now looking at. She agreed with me and we proceeded to take several pictures of the car from various angles trying to replicate the picture in the artwork. I think we succeeded in replicating the artwork very well. Our "re-creation" of the event art with The Aqua Zephyr creating the same scene The next morning, after breakfast, we said our final goodbyes to several ROA members. We trailered the Riviera and proceeded to retrace our path back to North Carolina. Again, Google Maps projected a 7 hour journey, which we knew would not be true. We discovered one of our trailer tires had a slow leak. We aired up the tire and watched it carefully on the trip home, stopping once to fill it up again. After 11 ½ hours, we finally made it back to North Carolina safe and sound, all the while receiving honks and thumbs up from admiring passers-by. Loaded up for the return trip home; Hwy 15 Maryland rest stop on the Maryland-Pennsylvania state line, June 29th 2019 Our first Riviera Owners Association International Annual Meet was an exceptional experience, and we hope to attend another one in the future. We attended our first Meet for the cars and we will attend our next Meet to see the new friends that we made. A special thank you to ROA Director, @Ray_Knott, and his executive team for putting together a wonderful gathering of the Riviera faithful. Mike Sumrell Fayetteville, North Carolina BCA #49586 ROA # 15405
  40. 8 points
    Sorry, but I have to disagree. The worst thing you can do to a car is to NOT drive it. At that point it becomes a piece of art, and frankly, if I can't drive a car, there is no reason to own it. I restored it once, I can restore it again. Nothing I own is low mileage, all original, and in need of "preservation". Drive the wheels off of them. Life's too short to daily drive a soulless transportation appliance as your daily driver.
  41. 8 points
    Less restrictions are better than more. One neighbor with a barking dog that goes off all the time can be alot more of an annoyance to the neighborhood than a car or even several in the yard.
  42. 8 points
    The silverbacks here will tell you those care are worthless since it would cost more to restore them than what they would sell for when done. "Beware the Philistine who knows the price of everything but the value of nothing".
  43. 8 points
    It becomes one's prerogative to respond to people like that. I choose not to. Let em think what they will. I assume people like that are just unconscious of common courtesy. And when I see a perfect car being driven out of a trailer I always think, what a sad affair. But I choose not to say anything like that out loud. It's their car, and their way. Ultimately both cars are at the same event, which make them equal in my eyes. And I know at least one guy who appreciates my cars for what they are. That's this guy, the one who drove it there.
  44. 8 points
  45. 8 points
    The doors are on the car now. I had to make new rubber door bumpers as the original ones were hard as a rock. The correct rubber to use is 30 durometer if you are looking. Not too hard, not too soft. Not expensive, and the 36" x 2" piece is enough to share with another Buick friend. The following is how they are cut. They sometimes take a little trimming to get them just right, but you can do that with a brand new single edge razor blade. I did find one place in Australia that carried them, but none in the US. http://www.oldera.com.au/door-buff-block-all-gm-to-1925-28/. They also sell replacement rubber for the door dovetails - as Bob's Automobilia does as well. I do not know the span of years these were used on, and if these are only for the open cars or closed cars as well. The old ones had a single nail thru them, but I do not know if that was original, or if someone did that to keep them from falling out. Hugh
  46. 8 points
    The great day arrived! On April 12 1997, I could put the body on the frame. The way I did it was a little bit criminal with blocks of wood on top of the jack stands. I had to go under the body to lift it and put the wood blocks on the other side as the body was near to the wall. Some say: to make life interesting, you have to take one risk each day. With this, I took a risk for the whole year! Fortunately, even if the whole was very unstable, nothing happens. Eyes must be overall: is the frame in the middle of the body? nothing is touching the body? (especially with my "construction") engine? transmission? At the end of the afternoon, the body was on the frame, attached with the screws.It began again to look like a car! The next step was to assemble all the body parts and begin with filling, sanding, etc. A long and annoying work.
  47. 8 points
    Thank you to Adam Martin (Smartin) for letting me know about this article yesterday. I have not yet recieved my copy in the mail. Nice to be able to go online and see it there. Also a big Thank you to Pete Philips for the article. It was a pleasure to see you at Hershey. And the Biggest Thank You to John Csordas for all you continue to do and have done. What a great way to start the year!
  48. 8 points
    And here's the proof! Click on the image, then click on the "Play" arrow if the video doesn't automatically start.
  49. 8 points
    I remember when the History Channel had good programs on HISTORY; when the Learning Channel had programs for LEARNING. I gave up my television service a few years ago and don't miss it in the least!