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#506582 - 05/01/08 09:43 AM correct top for 3578 AFB for '63 Riviera
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Registered: 07/20/03
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Loc: Sour Lake, Texas
Can anyone tell me what the correct top is for the 3578 AFB that goes on '63 Rivieras? Was it a long snout front feed top such as 4331 AFBs had, or the short snout front feed top such as 2982 AFBs had?

John

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#506748 - 05/01/08 11:31 PM Re: correct top for 3578 AFB for '63 Riviera [Re: 61-63]
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Registered: 08/25/06
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Loc: Spring, TX
The correct AFB for a '63 Riv with the 401 engine is the 3503. I have attached a photo of one I recently rebuilt. I hope it answers your question but if not, ask again.

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'29 Ford Model A Phaeton (MARC #71406)
'63 Riviera, Fawn Mist, Saddle Leather (ROA #9774)
Jim's 1963 Riviera

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#506806 - 05/02/08 08:55 AM Re: correct top for 3578 AFB for '63 Riviera [Re: Jim_Cannon]
Bill Stoneberg Offline
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Registered: 03/11/00
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Loc: Austin, Texas
Thats a nice stand Jim

I am getting to rebuilding my carb and I am y have to use that idea.
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1950 Buick Super Estate Wagon
1947 4 Door Sedan
1964 Riviera

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#506829 - 05/02/08 10:29 AM Re: correct top for 3578 AFB for '63 Riviera [Re: Bill Stoneberg]
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Your picture answered my question; thank you. Nice job on the carb. Are the metal components cadmium plated?

John

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#506985 - 05/02/08 09:29 PM Re: correct top for 3578 AFB for '63 Riviera [Re: Bill Stoneberg]
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 Originally Posted By: Bill Stoneberg
Thats a nice stand Jim

I am getting to rebuilding my carb and I may have to use that idea.


Hey, Bill! How's Austin treating you?

Just 4 carriage bolts, some nuts and washers. Works really well. If I were to do it again, I would use a slightly larger piece of plywood for the base.

You can not see in these photos but the nuts under the carb base are fiber lock nuts so that once you get them set where you want them, they do not move around. Sometimes I use one nut on top to hold the carb to the base, sometimes I put all 4 on (when I want to be able to invert the carb body to spray cleaner or air in there).

I did not do anything to the carb linkage except clean it. I have seen some of this linkage for sale in a gold cad plated finish. I don't like that look with the silver colored carb. I don't know what the linkage plated was originally. Looking at the pieces I have and the edges of them, I think it looks like it was silver cad plated. I need to learn how to do that.
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'29 Ford Model A Phaeton (MARC #71406)
'63 Riviera, Fawn Mist, Saddle Leather (ROA #9774)
Jim's 1963 Riviera

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#507048 - 05/03/08 08:05 AM Re: correct top for 3578 AFB for '63 Riviera [Re: Jim_Cannon]
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Registered: 03/11/00
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Loc: Austin, Texas
Hi Jim,

Loving life in Austin, so much more relaxed the Houston. Now if I could sell my house.....

Did you ever paint your carb or did you just clean it real well ? Mine looks like hell and was wondering .
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1950 Buick Super Estate Wagon
1947 4 Door Sedan
1964 Riviera

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#507059 - 05/03/08 09:04 AM Re: correct top for 3578 AFB for '63 Riviera [Re: Bill Stoneberg]
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Registered: 08/25/06
Posts: 235
Loc: Spring, TX
 Originally Posted By: Bill Stoneberg
Hi Jim,

Loving life in Austin, so much more relaxed the Houston. Now if I could sell my house.....

Did you ever paint your carb or did you just clean it real well ? Mine looks like hell and was wondering .



Sorry to hear about the house. I have heard things are slow.

I did not paint the carb. What you see there is the result of days of soaking in carb cleaner and hours of scrubbing with my dremel and a metal cleaner/polish, followed by Nevr-Dull wadding polish. I sure wish there was an easier way to clean that aluminum.

I have another carb to do here that is not as bad. About 8 years ago I had a guy at a transmission shop clean the body with a "soda blaster" that they use for small aluminum parts of automatic transmissions (very safe for aluminum). I would not recommend that to anyone; the soda cleans too well.
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'29 Ford Model A Phaeton (MARC #71406)
'63 Riviera, Fawn Mist, Saddle Leather (ROA #9774)
Jim's 1963 Riviera

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#507072 - 05/03/08 09:50 AM Re: correct top for 3578 AFB for '63 Riviera [Re: Jim_Cannon]
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Registered: 11/26/04
Posts: 527
Loc: MO
 Originally Posted By: Jim_Cannon


I did not do anything to the carb linkage except clean it. I have seen some of this linkage for sale in a gold cad plated finish. I don't like that look with the silver colored carb. I don't know what the linkage plated was originally. Looking at the pieces I have and the edges of them, I think it looks like it was silver cad plated. I need to learn how to do that.



Carter Carburetor was located across the street from Crown Plating. Carter had a "corrosion specification" that could be met by a number of different finishes: white zinc, yellow zinc, white cadmium, and yellow cadmium.

As the various steel components arrived from the stamping plants, they would be taken to Crown and plated with whatever Crown was running that day that satisfied the corrosion specification.

I have new old stock (N.O.S.) Carter carburetors that have parts with all four of the aforementioned finishes.

In the "for what its worth" category, I would suggest that for carburetors in the 1930's Carter probably had 95 percent white zinc, which dropped to about 60 percent during the mid-1960's. Thus, unless a customer has a preference, we restore Carter carbs using white zinc plating.

Jon.
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