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#504275 - 04/22/08 11:41 AM ac compressor
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Registered: 03/04/08
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hi reatta lovers

91 r12 ac has been working fine.
turned on today and no cold air no compressor turning.
switching between modes seems to work but no compressor on ac
temp was 80 outside and set at 65 inside .no workee

used search for air conditioning and did not see my issue n the last year.

where's a good place to start ?

thanx
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#504287 - 04/22/08 12:28 PM Re: ac compressor [Re: tom_wasil]
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First thing I do when A/C stops working is clear the codes. It has always then come back on after that. I do not know how to clear codes on a 90/91
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#504289 - 04/22/08 12:34 PM Re: ac compressor [Re: DAVES89]
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will give it a try - there was no service ac light though

thanx
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#504295 - 04/22/08 12:40 PM Re: ac compressor [Re: tom_wasil]
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Disconnect power from the battery so the computer will re set...worked on my 90 when I bought it in 2002. Hasn't acted up since.
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#504363 - 04/22/08 04:18 PM Re: ac compressor [Re: nic walker]
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re-setting codes and disconnecting the battery also worked for me. But don't forget the most important thing!!!

A shot of Jack Daniels before you turn the key. Worked for me.

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#504412 - 04/22/08 07:21 PM Re: ac compressor [Re: tomt]
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hi again

disconnected battery for awhile and reconnected
no compressor

reset codes via hvac controls several times
no compressor

no bcm codes listed before resetting
bcm data was within ranges specified

cooling fan running
interior fans on auto - high

is there a code for low refrigerant ?

next step ? - local a/c guy ???
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#504423 - 04/22/08 07:58 PM Re: ac compressor [Re: tom_wasil]
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is there a fuse on the compressor clutch ?

is there a schematic of the two fuse boxes , as to what the fuses control ?
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#504493 - 04/23/08 12:24 AM Re: ac compressor [Re: tom_wasil]
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Did you check for voltage at the compressor clutch conection? If it is like th 88-89 then there is not a schematic of just the fuse block. For the most part, the fuses are found in the electrical trouble shooting section of the service manual. In there given system chart. Also, unless they went backwards on there sensors there should be a low "pressure" code.
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#504555 - 04/23/08 10:29 AM Re: ac compressor [Re: D-a-n-i-e-l]
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no bcm codes or ec codes present
all das blinkin lites seem ok
ac controller seems ok
connection to compressor seems ok

am going to check all fuses
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#504562 - 04/23/08 11:25 AM Re: ac compressor [Re: tom_wasil]
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okey dokey

driver side fuse panel
20 amp
# 18 compressor now cycles on and off just like the general intended. hope it doesnt blow again
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#506074 - 04/29/08 03:21 PM Re: ac compressor [Re: tom_wasil]
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second time fuse has blown - wheres a good place to start ?

seems like it may have something to do with switching to heat mode / or maybe not
fuse blows - no compressor clutch
replace fuse clutch works for some time then it blew again




Edited by tom_wasil (04/29/08 03:22 PM)
Edit Reason: added verbage
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#506160 - 04/29/08 07:49 PM Re: ac compressor [Re: tom_wasil]
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I would start with the clutch for the compressor. It is what that fuse is powering, if I remember right. The bad news is if that is the case, yo will most likely be replacing the pump/compressor. I hope for you I am wrong about the circuit.
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#506164 - 04/29/08 08:00 PM Re: ac compressor [Re: D-a-n-i-e-l]
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See if a slow blow fuse is available that will fit. They handle a surge better when the compressor clutch first engages. Might cure your problem if you can find one..
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#506170 - 04/29/08 08:14 PM Re: ac compressor [Re: Ronnie]
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Registered: 12/02/06
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That is a great idea, but I would still plan on replacing/repairing the compressor in the future. The electrical components were designed to run on a normal single blow element, so what ever the cause it will continue to decline until it is completely gone. I really do think that the slo blow is a good short term fix.

When does it blow? at start up of the compessor or after the compressor has been running?
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#506180 - 04/29/08 08:36 PM Re: ac compressor [Re: D-a-n-i-e-l]
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Check A/C clutch coil resistance. If it's zero, you will need a new clutch. Blowing a 20a fuse means power draw, is exceeding 240 watts.

Got a continuity light? The cheap 2-penlight battery kind works well (Ideal makes one, or make your own). While you have the clutch disconnected, attach one lead to a clutch connector stab, and quickly wipe the other lead across the other stab. (On a 1-wire connector, use ground for one lead.)

You should see a pretty blue spark following your wipe wire, and the bulb should not light. This shows inductance. Try it several times. If you get the sparks, everything is good, and your problem is somewhere else. If you get a strong light with no spark trail, it's shorted.

Do this at dusk, or in a dimly lit garage.

An engine compartment is a hostile enviroment with lots of vibration, oil, heat, cold, etc. If the compressor checks out, follow the wire loom back, checking all along its length for fraying copper wire. If you find a bad spot, use friction tape, not black plastic electrical tape. Friction tape is cotton and will take heat far better than vinyl. We are not looking for a high-voltage dialectric, just a soft, hearty, insulator.

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