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#496524 - 03/23/08 09:23 AM
Re: 1916 Buick 'Busselback'
[Re: 1DandyDaves]
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jbbuick22
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Registered: 12/27/00
Posts: 112
Loc: Sherborn MA USA
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72caddy, In the pics. I see parts of at least 2 cars, a roadster model 44 rear section, a model 45 touring rear section, and can not id the cowl, which does not look like an open car cowl poss a sedan cutdown. The frame # and engine would help id the year and poss the orig body.
JB
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#496660 - 03/23/08 09:13 PM
Re: 1916 Buick 'Busselback'
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72caddy
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Registered: 02/25/08
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Here is another shot of inside the cowl. I could not get around to the front when I was there last.
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#496663 - 03/23/08 09:21 PM
Re: 1916 Buick 'Busselback'
[Re: 72caddy]
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72caddy
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Registered: 02/25/08
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Picture of the rear.
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#497103 - 03/25/08 05:29 PM
Re: 1916 Buick 'Busselback'
[Re: 72caddy]
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jbbuick22
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Registered: 12/27/00
Posts: 112
Loc: Sherborn MA USA
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72caddy, There is something about the cowl that does not look Buick, holes for the wind shield posts,and missing hole for the horn on the firewall.
JB Sherborn MA
22-6-55 Sport Touring
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#497685 - 03/27/08 06:32 PM
Re: 1916 Buick 'Busselback' - Now D44
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72caddy
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Registered: 02/25/08
Posts: 19
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Well the saga continues...went out after work and really looked hard with the new infolrmation that everyone so helpfully supplied. Turns out he has 4 frames, 3 motors (1 I did not look at), 3 cowls, 2 or 3 hoods, etc. etc.
The cowl delimma (is it or is it not an open car cowl?) It is an open cowl the bottom bracket was produced and it lined up with the holes in the cowl and looked correct. especially when I compared it to the other open cowl fully asssembled under a tarp.
So here are the numbers if someone can help me out:
These are 'loose' frames with nothing much else other than running board and fender brackets
Frame #1: badge on frame 283654 Frame #2: badge on frame 834696
Car #2 - not muchmore than engine, frame (complete) and cowl, doors and front seat (no rear section)
Frame # (on the rear of the frame passenger side)497205 Engine # (Engine WITH vavle cover; no exposed rockers):432009
Car I am interested in - more complete; fairly straight
Frame # (under left headlight) 255818 Engine # (Missing distributor cap) 261598
Won't give me a price yet because the car is full of part boxes and he wants to make sure he doesn't sell any Packard parts with the car by mistake. He also wants to assemble as much as he can so he can get a higher price.
As always, thanks for any insight you can provide.
Edited by 72caddy (03/27/08 06:56 PM)
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#497841 - 03/28/08 10:20 AM
Re: 1916 Buick 'Busselback' - Now D44
[Re: 72caddy]
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DaveCorbin
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Registered: 02/19/06
Posts: 604
Loc: Texas
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Dear Caddy: Here's the info you asked about, in the order you asked the questions: 283654 is a frame for a 1917 D35 4 cylinder car. 834696 is a frame for a 1922 model 54 6 cylinder roadster. 497205 is a frame for a 1919 H45 touring 6 cylinder car. 432009 is a 1918 engine 4 cylinder. It would fit the 1917 frame. 255818 is a frame number for a 1916 D44 roadster. 261598 is an engine number for a 1916 D44 and is most probably the original engine for frame 255818. Does this help? Regards, Dave Corbin
Edited by DaveCorbin (03/28/08 10:27 AM)
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#497845 - 03/28/08 10:30 AM
Re: 1916 Buick 'Busselback' - Now D44
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DaveCorbin
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Registered: 02/19/06
Posts: 604
Loc: Texas
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Dear Caddy: While Buick factory records indicate that 432009 should be a 4 cylinder engine, Buick sometimes mixed things up. If it's a 6 cylinder, it's still a 1918, but would fit in 497205, although it's the wrong year. Regards, Dave Corbin
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#497880 - 03/28/08 12:25 PM
Re: 1916 Buick 'Busselback' - Now D44
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72caddy
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Registered: 02/25/08
Posts: 19
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Thanks for that information.
Engine #432009 is indeed a 6 cyclinder motor and is mounted in Frame # 497205
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