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#485759 - 02/08/08 01:37 PM 53 Skylark
jfarrell Offline
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Registered: 09/25/07
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I'm having trouble figuring out where the horn wire goes on a '53 Skylark.

A black wire goes down the steering column. On the steering wheel end of that wire is the "horn button."

1) How does the horn wire exit the steering column after it enters the engine compartment?

2) Just after the steering column enters the engine compartment, there is a small plate that attaches over a small rectangular opening on the top of the steering column. The small plate has what looks like a spring loaded ground contact on the inside with a wire connector on the outside. What wire attaches to that connector -- if it's the wire from the horn relay, what makes the connection between the wire from the relay and the one coming down the steering column?

Thanks for any help. Jim Farrell

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#486373 - 02/10/08 11:05 PM Re: 53 Skylark [Re: jfarrell]
Fr. Buick Offline
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Loc: back to school in bella Roma a...
Yes, the two wires connect at the point you found: from the horn relay wire to the horn button wire. The horn wire that runs through the steering shaft, from the horn button down, "exits" the shaft through a small hole and is attached to an insulated sleave on the outside of the shaft. The spring-loaded contact on the steering column keeps contact with that sleave as the wheel is turned. So when the horn wire is grounded at the horn button, you get a wonderful sound.

I hope that helps,

Doug Cook
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Rev. Douglas J Cook:
1996 Impala SS taking too much time and money from my Buicks;
1954 Special under restoration;
1924 Buick 4-cyl roadster.

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#486379 - 02/10/08 11:26 PM Re: 53 Skylark [Re: Fr. Buick]
jfarrell Offline
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Doug:

Thanks for the help. Does the steering column have to come out so the horn wire can exit through the shaft and attach to the insulated sleeve?
Jim Farrell

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#486622 - 02/11/08 09:50 PM Re: 53 Skylark [Re: jfarrell]
jfarrell Offline
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Doug or anyone:

By turning the steering wheel I answered part of my own question and found the small shaft hole the horn wire exits from. The wire has now exited the hole, but what does it attach to? My fear is that something is missing (insulated sleeve). In my steering column right now are the shaft to the steering box, on top of it is another shaft with the levers that work the gear selector and a third outer (painted) steering column. Thanks again Jim Farrell

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#487267 - 02/14/08 11:16 AM Re: 53 Skylark [Re: jfarrell]
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The wire attaches to a copper or brass sleeve that is pressed over a rubber isolater. Over time, the rubber usually deteriorates, and the brass sleeve cracks or breaks. You likely have to pull the steering gear completely out of the car to get access to the shaft. Before you do that, pull the button or wiper off of the steering column (that has a wire that goes to the fuse panel), look through the hole and with a pencil or scribe mark the shaft so you know where to position the brass contacting sleeve. Pull your steering gear out, and on the bottom of the shaft you may find the remnants of the rubber isolator and brass ring. You want to repair/scratch build/glue up a new rubber isolator and slide it onto the shaft over the area you marked. Then you can repair the brass ring that fits over the rubber washer, or get a copper sleeve (like for plumbing) and make that work and slide that over the rubber washer. Glue the contact to the rubber so it doesn't slide off. You'll solder a new wire to that sleeve, and run it up the shaft to the horn button. I went through this on my 55.

Hardest part is getting the column out. Hope this helps.
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#489492 - 02/23/08 01:22 PM Re: 53 Skylark [Re: KAD36]
martylum Offline
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Registered: 10/19/07
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Hello JFarrell-I too am restoring a 53 Skylark and am in the disassembly phase. Someone years ago went nuts with an undercoating gun and coated entirre underbody, inside of the trunk(entire), and frame rails, torque tube, etc.
I'm left wondering how much sound deadener was originally used at the factory assembly line?
Do you feel your car has only the original factory undercoating on the underbody? I pretty sure Buick never sprayed the frame rails or torque tube and probably didn't spray inside the trunk. I'm aware of the white painted wheel wells and underfloor areas. Was any undercoating sprayed under this white paint on the wheelwell areas to resist stone chipping??
I'm currently in process of removing all of this tar. The good news is there's a fair amount of original paint under the tar. The bad news is it seems to take a long time to remove the tar.
Thanks for your comments.
Martin Lum
marty@oldercar.com

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#490937 - 02/28/08 10:15 PM Re: 53 Skylark [Re: martylum]
jfarrell Offline
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Registered: 09/25/07
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Marty:

Our Skylark had undercoating when we got it. It looked factory installed, but it could have been something done by the dealer. I don't know what the BCA judges say about undercoating, but I do notice that photos of what look like high point cars have undercoating on the fender wells. From that i assume the underside is also undercoated. Jim Farrell

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#491069 - 02/29/08 12:05 PM Re: 53 Skylark [Re: jfarrell]
martylum Offline
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Jim-thanks for your reply. I'm sure Buick sprayed some areas underneath the car for sound deadening purposes but certainly not the vast amount found under my project.
On the wheelwells, Skylarks were the only 53 Buick model which had white or red painted wheelwells as standard equipment-ours shows white paint on bare metal under the heavy tar coating in all wheelwells on a light blue metallic body color.I'm not sure you could paint a color over any tar-based undercoating.
What color are your wheelwells?
The rear half of the underfloor also seems to have been painted white so I suspect it wasn't undercoated as the white paint is on bare metal.
Guess I do have to thank the zealous undercoater-there's lots of original black paint on both underfloor and chassis rails as well as white overspray on chassis parts and splash pans next to the F & Rear wheelwells. The RH frame rail has a stenciled original 7 digit # and a 1953 date.
Marty Lum

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#491193 - 02/29/08 09:14 PM Re: 53 Skylark [Re: martylum]
jfarrell Offline
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Registered: 09/25/07
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Marty:

We sandbasted our car and started restoration about 15 years ago so I don't totally trust my memory. That said, I recall that the wheelwells were painted red over undercoating of some sort. Ours was and is a black car. Jim Farrell

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