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#484378 - 02/03/08 12:32 AM
1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
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Harry J.
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Registered: 08/08/04
Posts: 408
Loc: Atlanta, Ga.
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I am presently in the process of restoring a 1928 series "72" Chrysler. This is proving to be a challenging project. The body is a composite (wood and steel) unit manufactured by Fisher; requiring the replacement of a good percentage of the wooden frame. I started this project some 35 years ago. For a period of the last 25 years the car was in storage; however, when I acquired my present shop I proceeded to restart my efforts to resurrect this survivor. My intention is to restore it to as close to it was when it rolled off the assembly lines at Chrysler in 1927 or 1928 (note production of the series "72 started in mid '27). I hope to keep this forum posted as to my progress and solicit aid and advice from those participating. When I master the ability to post pictures via this new fangled contrivance of which I am presently utilizing, I will hopefully post some of these for your review. In the mean time I would appreciate the attention and help of those members who have a knowledge of restoration practices and techniques relating to composite bodies of the 1920's.
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#484397 - 02/03/08 05:05 AM
Re: 1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
[Re: Harry J.]
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Pacer_Leigh
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Registered: 01/21/08
Posts: 21
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Hi, I am in the same process as you of restoring a 72 roadster. I have a almost complete running car that was uted. I have been searching for a roadster rear for some three years now and after visiting a swap meet on saturday I may have found one. I get to have a look at it on Tuesday. I am new to the restoring vintage cars but I can tell you that mechanicly wise there are many interchangable parts from 72s with 75s. I have given up on trying to make my car totaly original due to lack of parts here in Australia. I am glad to help you in any way possible. leigh.raaen@optusnet.com.au Leigh
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#484605 - 02/03/08 10:13 PM
Re: 1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
[Re: Pacer_Leigh]
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Harry J.
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Registered: 08/08/04
Posts: 408
Loc: Atlanta, Ga.
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Pacer...great to hear another one of these cars has survived. Did you know two of the series "72"'s placed 3rd & 4th at Le Mans in 1928? For your info Chrysler corp. has original factory photos of the two body styles available in the "72" roadster. The historical data collection has these and a copy of the owners manual. Try to keep it original if you can; the roadsters are really sporty.
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#484640 - 02/04/08 03:02 AM
Re: 1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
[Re: Harry J.]
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Pacer_Leigh
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Registered: 01/21/08
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thanks for that. How would I get to see the factory photos you have mentioned? Leigh
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#485531 - 02/07/08 05:15 PM
Re: 1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
[Re: Pacer_Leigh]
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Harry J.
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Registered: 08/08/04
Posts: 408
Loc: Atlanta, Ga.
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This is my series "72" Royal sedan.
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#486032 - 02/09/08 05:03 PM
Re: 1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
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Pacer_Leigh
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Registered: 01/21/08
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Nice car, your ahead in restoration, I'm still looking for the roadster rear panels. I have a lead and am checking it out tomorrow. I'ts a 70 model I think but I can make it work.
Leigh
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#491437 - 03/02/08 12:39 AM
Re: 1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
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Harry J.
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Registered: 08/08/04
Posts: 408
Loc: Atlanta, Ga.
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Progress report....Since my last report I have successfully hung the left rear door, nailed on the sheet metal covers above each door and finished the tops of the doors. These tasks may sound simple or easy to do; however,they have taken some thought and automotive archaeology to achieve. The left rear door was not fitting it's openning properly. I have been wrestling with this for some while. It required shiming the three door hinges. Due to the fact that measurement of the gap required to be filled was impossible to measure because it was only evident once the door was shut and in it's place with the hinges tightly trapped inside the hinge jam; I was forced to resort to a many trial fits using various thickness's of shims. Finally, when I determined what thickness was needed for each hinge the wood screw holes were worn out. I used a wood putty recommended by a local wood working supply store to restore these holes. Now the door fits. This process took some three weeks. The upper door frame sheetmetal pieces were another story. Fisher had equiped the car with a door stop mechanism that consisted of an arm and slide assembly with a pivot stud mounted in the upper horizontal body frame timber. I had to locate and drill these holes for the studs. Once the stud hole were bored I could nail these sheetmetal pieces in place , then install the pivot studs . Again many more hours of work. Finishing the tops of the doors took some patching with small amounts of wood putty and sanding. I hope to post some pictures relating to this work soon.
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#492668 - 03/06/08 10:12 PM
Re: 1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
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1929Chrysler
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Registered: 01/11/06
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Hi Harry,
I enjoyed our conversation the other night. Again thank you for the input. You mentioned posting some pictures of your recent work. I can't wait to see them!!
When you say "They have taken some thought and "automotive archaeology" to achieve" Does that mean that you have found literature pertaining to how to align these bodies? Would love copies of anything you might have!!
Thanks
Dan
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#492710 - 03/07/08 08:16 AM
Re: 1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
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Harry J.
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Registered: 08/08/04
Posts: 408
Loc: Atlanta, Ga.
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1929Chrysler....There is a service manual for early Fisher bodied cars. "Fisher Body Service Manual 1926-1931 closed body models" . I have a copy of a recent reprint I bought 3 or 4 years ago; although I can't remember were I purchased it. As far as I can remember it was a collector car literature company. Maybe someone reading this reply will know. As soon as I can figure out how to move my pictures from one place in this darn computer to this forum I will post them. Does your Chrysler have a Fisher body? I believe it was in 1928 that GM purchased the last of Fisher and soon after stopped building bodies for other firms.
Edited by Harry J. (03/07/08 08:17 AM)
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#492835 - 03/07/08 06:31 PM
Re: 1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
[Re: Harry J.]
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Harry J.
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Registered: 08/08/04
Posts: 408
Loc: Atlanta, Ga.
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Here is the promised picture. This picture shows the body without the rear door. The arrows point to areas I have paid attention to in the last month or so. These are not the only areas or topics of the restoration I have paid attention to during this period. Some period of time was spent on what I call automotive archaeology; which is studying the original parts car(see background first pic) and the one I am restoring ( identical cars down to paint color & upholstery except car being restored has the optional "red head").
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#492838 - 03/07/08 06:53 PM
Re: 1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
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Harry J.
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Registered: 08/08/04
Posts: 408
Loc: Atlanta, Ga.
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These pictures demonstrate the restoration work I have done on the top of the doors and the upper door jams. Note the green overspray from it's first paint job at the factory (automotive archaeology).
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#492839 - 03/07/08 07:01 PM
Re: 1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
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Harry J.
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Registered: 08/08/04
Posts: 408
Loc: Atlanta, Ga.
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Here is the door in it's final position.
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Description: Hinge alignment checked by laser.
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#493869 - 03/12/08 12:07 AM
Re: 1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
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Harry J.
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Registered: 08/08/04
Posts: 408
Loc: Atlanta, Ga.
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While working on the doors I had two of the original tags replicated. The Hassler tag goes on the snubbers and the Chrysler tag goes on the firewall. You will note the snubbers to either side of the radiator in the first picture. I am still working on having two other sets of parts reproduced; the runningboards and the door handles. The door handles, window cranks, and escutheons are proving to be a challenge as they were originally die-cast of a poor grade of pot metal (zinc)and have deteriorated. I am looking into rapid prototyping techniques available coupled with CAD programs that are available to help me in this quest. The runningboards are another story as they were originally roll formed. Quick question....How many other makes ran Hassler snubbers?
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#493873 - 03/12/08 12:23 AM
Re: 1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
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Harry J.
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Registered: 08/08/04
Posts: 408
Loc: Atlanta, Ga.
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This is a photo of the car as it is today with the visor trial fitted.
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#494433 - 03/14/08 05:43 AM
Re: 1928 series "72" Chrysler Royal sedan
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Johan Boltendal
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Registered: 05/02/05
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Harry, you do get there the long way, love the pictures and detailed info, Johan
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