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#482113 - 01/26/08 06:17 AM
Re: how difficult is pulling the motor and tranny out of a 1957?
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Caballero2
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Registered: 10/26/07
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Now is the time to do the power steering. I have done it with the engine and fenders in place. What a job that was.
Dan
'63 Lesabre
'57 Super
'57 Roadmaster
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#483771 - 01/31/08 10:17 PM
Re: how difficult is pulling the motor and tranny out of a 1957?
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57wagon
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Registered: 02/08/07
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Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
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I will take that under advisement (power steering). By the way - how does one go about rebuilding a water pump? Mine is nearly frozen. It looks like it could be pressed apart once the pulley mount is off of it. Anybody do this before?
The Motor and trans should be out this weekend. Yay.
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#489791 - 02/24/08 10:08 PM
Re: how difficult is pulling the motor and tranny out of a 1957?
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57wagon
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Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 115
Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
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UPDATE: Motor and tranny are out of the car. That was a great process, and the experience of working with my dad for an entire day made it even better. Nothing broke, no bolts stripped or snapped, and we did not damage anything. Amazing for our first try! It went pretty smoothly asside from the tranny pouring it's blood on the floor and down the arm. We found the original oil filter housing label in place. It looks like it may still have the original valve cover gaskets in place - what was left of them. I will post photos of it later. I am still amazed at how easily the bolts all came out. Of course 50 years of motor oil out of those valve covers kept all the items pretty well oiled up under there.
Question: Are there different headers/exhaust manifolds for the Supers versus the Roadmasters with the duals? If yes, do I only need to replace the driver's side or both to put dual exhausts on my car?
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#489882 - 02/25/08 09:36 AM
Re: how difficult is pulling the motor and tranny out of a 1957?
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Bhigdog
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Registered: 10/23/01
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Loc: Eastern PA
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do I only need to replace the driver's side or both to put dual exhausts on my car?
Drivers side only needs to be a dualie manifold........Bob
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39 Chev PU
69 big block Corvette
55 Buick 66C
57 Buick 46C
55 Olds S-88
56 Chrysler St. Regis
AACA, BCA, WPC, USHGA
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#490059 - 02/25/08 09:15 PM
Re: how difficult is pulling the motor and tranny out of a 1957?
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57wagon
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Registered: 02/08/07
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Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
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Found one at Freeman's today. It should be on the way soon. Thanks for the update. Where are you in Eastern PA? I used to live in West Chester and I really miss it!
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#490142 - 02/26/08 09:06 AM
Re: how difficult is pulling the motor and tranny out of a 1957?
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Bhigdog
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I'm a bit Northwest of Allentown. Big diffence between West Chester and Iowa I would imagine. Glad your project is working out, good luck with it........Bob
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39 Chev PU
69 big block Corvette
55 Buick 66C
57 Buick 46C
55 Olds S-88
56 Chrysler St. Regis
AACA, BCA, WPC, USHGA
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#491569 - 03/02/08 09:35 PM
Re: how difficult is pulling the motor and tranny out of a 1957?
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57wagon
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Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
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UPDATE: The motor is at the motor shop - going for blueprinting and balancing of the motor. My engine builder actually has a guy that re-grinds cams for nailheads to give us the same torque curve and 50's sound, yet has the ability to run better on unleaded fuel. Cleaned the engine compartment with the motor out and we found the weld and underside of everything to be rust free. Even the brake lines (original 1957 equipment) are shiny as new! The bolts and everything on the car are like new. There is a serious plus side to a 50 year leak at the valve covers! Even the exhaust headers came off with a small 9/16 on a ratchet...no impact needed! Will get to see the motor apart this week.
Question: What color is the correct color for the engine for 1957? The bright turquois or the darker green?
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#491572 - 03/02/08 09:46 PM
Re: how difficult is pulling the motor and tranny out of a 1957?
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Caballero2
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Registered: 10/26/07
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CARS has the correct color of green in a spray can, and I believe that Bill Hirsch has an enamel, high temp, high gloss #R-5639 in quart cans that is correct. If you have trouble want to see a color, I can provide you a couple of photos. I think that I have one of an extremely low milage car that is all original and should help you in detailing.
Dan
'57 76C
'57 56R
'63 4467
Edited by Caballero2 (03/02/08 09:53 PM)
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#491575 - 03/02/08 09:55 PM
Re: how difficult is pulling the motor and tranny out of a 1957?
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Bhigdog
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Registered: 10/23/01
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The 57 frame has a very serious weakness in it's frame/front suspension that you have the opportunity to address now that engine is out. The upper control arms are bolted to a sort of double ess shaped steel stamping that is welded to the frame. The welds are little more than tack welds and are inadequate for the loads placed on them during braking and are VERY prone to cracks and failure.
I would advise you to clean/wire brush the stamping to frame welds and inspect them. I would also take this opportunity to do a better stronger weld.
On my 57 both mount welds were cracked and one had already been crudely rewelded. I've talked to at least 2 57 owners who had a mount fail and the wheel fold under the car.........Bob
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39 Chev PU
69 big block Corvette
55 Buick 66C
57 Buick 46C
55 Olds S-88
56 Chrysler St. Regis
AACA, BCA, WPC, USHGA
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#491592 - 03/02/08 11:07 PM
Re: how difficult is pulling the motor and tranny out of a 1957?
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Thriller
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Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Question: What color is the correct color for the engine for 1957? The bright turquois or the darker green?
If I recall correctly, seeing as my den got a bit reorganized...ah, found the BCA Judging manual...it should be Buick Green (aka Apple Green). The turquoise was on the straight 8s I believe.
Good to hear...I went through the same adventure with the Wildcat a few years ago...it was thoroughly enjoyable, albeit expensive.
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#491796 - 03/03/08 09:12 PM
Re: how difficult is pulling the motor and tranny out of a 1957?
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57wagon
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Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 115
Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
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thanks to everyone for the tips. I have just spent the weekend scrubbing every inch of the upper and lower a-arms and saw no cracks on the frame. However, I will look for this area of possible cracking tomorrow at the shop. I have the apple green in hand. Thank you for looking that up. Any photos of the engine compartments of a 57 engine compartment would be much appreciated.
You guys are all great!
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#491817 - 03/03/08 09:54 PM
Re: how difficult is pulling the motor and tranny out of a 1957?
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Bhigdog
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Registered: 10/23/01
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Loc: Eastern PA
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The cracks would be along the welds and tend to propagate forward to aft. Even if there are no very evident cracks it is easy to strenghten the welds with the engine out but very difficult to do with it in place........Bob
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Bob Beck
39 Chev PU
69 big block Corvette
55 Buick 66C
57 Buick 46C
55 Olds S-88
56 Chrysler St. Regis
AACA, BCA, WPC, USHGA
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